WHG

>tiny
>black
>zero culture
Are they the AASI of Europe? Only difference is that europeans have less of it relative to indian AASI. Which is apparent from their comparison.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >tiny
    WHG were chimps but they werent tiny. They easily towered over EEF pygmys. WHG were still irrelevant chimps only known for fricking cave paintings.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They might have been wide as in lateral but tiny as in their height fits. Standing at 164cm on average. I think EEF were 165 average with TRB and GAC reaching 169-170cm.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What's a centimeter?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          What is Chicago like today?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I don't know. I'm in the Adirondacks.
            It's more beautiful here than ever.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Most of the advanced cave paintings came from the Magdalenian/Goyet cluster.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Meaningless babble. Always funny how leftie geneticists and archaeologists give shitskin subhumans participation trophies because they invented a stick or drew a cow on a cave. Meanwhile faustian steppe R1b/R1a casually conquers the world and creates advanced civilization, doing more in a day than these apes did in 10000 years, and israelites like Reich still try to wash away their achievements.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Magdalenian art quality is more advanced than anything else until the bronze age civilizations. A handful of hunters created what bronze age elites needed to pay artists out of taxes levied on millions. You are too dumb to know that. Hell you can't think of race in any terms other than skin color. Those magdalenians were European. Your post is yet another proof of declining IQ in the west. O would tell you to go read a book but your dyslexic ass is probably too moronic to get information outside of a meme format.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Magdalenians were 2/3 Goyetians, 1/3 WHG you fricking idiot.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Thats European.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What do you mean tiny?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      5'5 was the average height of a WHG.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Makes no difference. The Dutch are genetically tall, as were the WHG.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Well the EHG fit all of these too and stood at 5'8.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Nobody said anything about EHG. Let's stick to the topic.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            My point being that there is no excuse of genetic height when they got mogged by other HGs.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            There is no such competition. You seem to be mentally challenged.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >There is no such competition
            There is on this board. How new are you? Haplothreads are all about which neolithoc population mogged who.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Well WHG was a different genetic isolate ancestry, similar to whatever Epigravettian group EHG had some ancestry from there in Russia and Ukraine. Both were shorter than Gravettians by quite a bit and possibly Magdalenian mutted hg groups.

            It could have been WHG manletism that benefited them re: their superior microlith technology, allowing them to become more populous compared to the Magdalenian/Gravettian groups that remained. It wasn't like colonization but more so that they could hunt deer and much smaller game and fish with these microliths. This microlith technology which is different from EHG (compare that with Gravettians and ANE, their material cultures were near indistinguishable despite genetic differences.

            Meanwhile EHG were hunting auroch to significant levels, and they may have been extinct either from over-hunting or the ice shelf in Western Europe. Still there is a correlation with both WSH and WHG ancestry and height.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Only the Oberkassel group was 165, and that's in skeletal height, their actual height, without immense bodily tear, and with added tissue, was 170.

        Well the EHG fit all of these too and stood at 5'8.

        EHG were demolished by the SHG in Mesolithic Motala, and SHG were racially the same as WHG and their Paleolithic forefathers (Coon, Wolpoff), they were loaded in WHG lineages, but had zero EHG lineages and were nearly half EHG aDNA.

        https://i.imgur.com/hG4dSq9.jpg

        >tiny
        >black
        >zero culture
        Are they the AASI of Europe? Only difference is that europeans have less of it relative to indian AASI. Which is apparent from their comparison.

        The remains of their material culture were more sophisticated than Shigir Idol period IEs, and I2 and I1 findings in post-IE invasion Europe are, in most cases, warrior and elite graves, at least in the NBA, Germanic, and Slavic context, so no, they're not AASI.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I2 SHG weren’t racially similar. They were bigger and blonder. Having WHG bodies and EHG coloration/IQ.
          It seems they pissed everyone off because none of them survived. Their paternal uncle in The British isles survived longer.
          I1 isn’t WHG in an immediate sense. It seems to be from EHGs, separated from WHGs by a few generations but in Scandinavia it came from EHGs, the likely event was a German WHG being inducted into some Corded Ware tribe and then establishing his family with a great land claim when they beat the pants off the “Swedish” farmers.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >I1 isn’t WHG in an immediate sense. It seems to be from EHGs.
            You are moronic.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It doesn’t show any admixture difference, meaning it was already apart of CWC when they became proto-battle axe (who were EHG derived).

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            If CWC assimilates a WHG haplogroup in Northern Europe, how is that haplogroup from EHG?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            If CWC assimilates a WHG haplogroup in Northern Europe, how is that haplogroup from EHG?

            It isn't. Pre-I1 has been found in various WHG-admixed populations. From Spanish HGs, a SHG, an EEF and most recently and most related to midern I1, a german WHG. I1 is most likely a tiny and small WHG lineage that founded effected from a single man. Hence the lack of apparent admixture and easy integration into CWC.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            German WHG in question. A not-quite I1 but most similar to it found.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They're called Western Hijra Gnomes for a reason.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I highly DOUBT they were that dark living in Northwestern Europe for 10,000s of years, darker than Anatolian Farmers

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Tbh they only moved northward pretty late. Only about 11,000 years ago at most so they lived in far northern regions for maybe a handful of millenia, not 10,000s of years.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Tbh they only moved northward pretty late. Only about 11,000 years ago at most so they lived in far northern regions for maybe a handful of millenia, not 10,000s of years.

      They really weren't that dark. And they were fighters, as you can see in Scandinavia which is still an I-M253 stronghold. But it'll be seen how this paradigm might shift very soon

      Meaningless babble. Always funny how leftie geneticists and archaeologists give shitskin subhumans participation trophies because they invented a stick or drew a cow on a cave. Meanwhile faustian steppe R1b/R1a casually conquers the world and creates advanced civilization, doing more in a day than these apes did in 10000 years, and israelites like Reich still try to wash away their achievements.

      Well WHG was a different genetic isolate ancestry, similar to whatever Epigravettian group EHG had some ancestry from there in Russia and Ukraine. Both were shorter than Gravettians by quite a bit and possibly Magdalenian mutted hg groups.

      It could have been WHG manletism that benefited them re: their superior microlith technology, allowing them to become more populous compared to the Magdalenian/Gravettian groups that remained. It wasn't like colonization but more so that they could hunt deer and much smaller game and fish with these microliths. This microlith technology which is different from EHG (compare that with Gravettians and ANE, their material cultures were near indistinguishable despite genetic differences.

      Meanwhile EHG were hunting auroch to significant levels, and they may have been extinct either from over-hunting or the ice shelf in Western Europe. Still there is a correlation with both WSH and WHG ancestry and height.

      https://i.imgur.com/Nppgtus.jpg

      ANE originated from the plains of Kazakhstan which have high seasonal variations in temperatures. They didn't really have this particularly borealised phenotype.
      They probably had classically Nordic but seemingly flat faces. The EHG ancestors of PIE never had this look either since it was contrary to their climatic conditions.

      ANE probably coalesced farther east where Sungir-like & Tianyuan-like first met.

      ANE were genetically short too. All of the pleistocene mammoth hunters like Kostenki were little guys.
      Just fyi, two recently sequenced WHGs from mesolithic France are found to be ancestral R1b for Western Europeans
      https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB71770

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Just fyi, two recently sequenced WHGs from mesolithic France are found to be ancestral R1b for Western Europeans
        Are they M269?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          [...]
          He's bullshitting. There weren't enough SNPs to type them correctly. Mesolithic R1b has already been found in France.

          Still controversial atm since many have questioned contamination status, however the early calls are R-L52
          https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-L52

          No. ANE were genetically taller than WHG.

          No, ANE were genotyped for short stature. Just looking at their chief descendants in the New World should clue you in.
          The tallest Europeans have extra WHG

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Still controversial atm since many have questioned contamination status, however the early calls are R-L52
            Do you have a link? Would be really unexpected IMHO.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >No, ANE were genotyped for short stature. Just looking at their chief descendants in the New World should clue you in.
            I call bullshit. Sure, mesoamericans were dwarfs but plains indians were giants for their time. Cheyenne were 5’10, Arapaho were 5’9. WHG does have the height genes but ANE/EHG were definitely not short.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            EHG gets taller polygenic scores literally in the same paper that is used to establish that WHGs weren't genetic mallets. WHGstans like to be as partial as possible with evidence. People like the op are daggers but you should never take WHGgays' word for their claims.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            *genetic manlets

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            But they were pretty tall for their time. Averae heights in europe decreased massively with the arrival of farmers

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Just fyi, two recently sequenced WHGs from mesolithic France are found to be ancestral R1b for Western Europeans
        Are they M269?

        He's bullshitting. There weren't enough SNPs to type them correctly. Mesolithic R1b has already been found in France.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, thought so.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No. ANE were genetically taller than WHG.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Kostenki was small because he just swung out of a baobab tree. He wasn’t adapted to the land yet. He is erroneously considered the first West Eurasian but he is really just a very drifted sub tribe on the Aurig-Ust-Tian cline.
        His only descendants are Australian Abos and some Mongols/Comanche.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Big skulled, robust and higher polygenic height than EEF.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They looked much better than the Gravettians, and also better than the EEFs.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >India
      >4 Inches
      Ouch

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They weren't black skinned and they weren't like black people

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Esths and Liths are light pigmented and tall, yet they are also most WHG. How did this happend?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Shortest and brownest are EEF Sardinians. WHG tall and POWER, while EEF short, brown and weak. This is a fact.

      >We therefore used whole-genome sequencing to investigate height in a large sample of Sardinians, who, with an average male stature of 168.5 cm (ref. 7), are among the shortest European populations

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Sardinians are affected by insular dwarfism, they tend to reach average Yugoslav and Dutch heights when they're raised abroad.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    WHG correlates with high frequency of fat white women and an absence of complex culture
    I also suspect Dutch and Danish sound so inferior because of some relic WHG speech pattern being embedded in them from Ertebolle

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There's zero evidence of WHG ever doing anything except muh dicking and throwing spears
    even all the cool cave paintings were the product of Goyetians

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They made EHG mongoloids look more white

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        ANE originated from the plains of Kazakhstan which have high seasonal variations in temperatures. They didn't really have this particularly borealised phenotype.
        They probably had classically Nordic but seemingly flat faces. The EHG ancestors of PIE never had this look either since it was contrary to their climatic conditions.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Samara is basically just extension of Siberia climate wise. Borealized Mongoloids area. WHG enjoyed the milder Atlantic climate.

          >Samara has a dry continental climate with cold and long winters and short but pleasant summers. Winters can be very cold in Samara; temperatures below -20 degrees Celsius are not uncommon. The coldest temperature on record is -43 degrees Celsius.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Why are you talking about Samara? it's not the 1990s.
            PIE ancestors come from Orlovka-Nalchik culture contemporary with Samara HG but between the Volga delta and the Azov.
            Khvalynsk culture in Samara was an extension of Orlovka-Nalchik but included massive local influence from Samara HGs.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Why are you talking about Samara?
            >massive local influence from Samara HGs.

            Lol

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Samara and Khvalynsk were dead ends. PIE is Orlovka-Nalchik->Repin of the Don which is in the exact same region.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          ANE probably coalesced farther east where Sungir-like & Tianyuan-like first met.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            ANE is not just Sungir+Tianyuan but also includes some kind of phantom from Central Asia
            Native American X2 is definitely linked with this phantom and probably some other maternal lines too

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I think Afontova Gora takes some CHG-like in some models, but Malta probably not.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            MA1 is transitional between ANS and AG3 on G25 but much closer to AG3
            but the phantom ancestry would probably be an as of yet unknown branch of West Eurasians

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >but the phantom ancestry would probably be an as of yet unknown branch of West Eurasians
            Doubt this tbh, where did you get this from?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            CHG didn't exist during this time(between 30k and 26K BC) and Iran_N couldn't have existed either since it contains ANE
            that leaves us with Iran and Uzbekistan either being inhabited by Basal Eurasians(more or less impossible) or Kotias UP types which were a mix of Basal Eurasian and broadly NW Eurasian HGs

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            True but that's not really an unknown branch, just more of the Basal Eurasian to West Eurasian cline. There might have been some Onge-related stuff in Central Asia too.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/Nppgtus.jpg

        ANE originated from the plains of Kazakhstan which have high seasonal variations in temperatures. They didn't really have this particularly borealised phenotype.
        They probably had classically Nordic but seemingly flat faces. The EHG ancestors of PIE never had this look either since it was contrary to their climatic conditions.

        Samara is basically just extension of Siberia climate wise. Borealized Mongoloids area. WHG enjoyed the milder Atlantic climate.

        >Samara has a dry continental climate with cold and long winters and short but pleasant summers. Winters can be very cold in Samara; temperatures below -20 degrees Celsius are not uncommon. The coldest temperature on record is -43 degrees Celsius.

        It’s because Geratsimov made their soft tissue model off of uralics. Mongoloids are the product of jungles, thus why africans can get chinko features while cold adapted races can not.
        The mongoloid face is similar to the simian of the jungle with its snout meant to filtrate the humid air.
        Even Neo-Siberian mongoloids have deeper set eyes and more prominent noses because Arctic climates select for a level of anti-mongoloidism. Paleolithic Europe where WHG lived was colder than Siberia post Ice Age.
        ANE, WHG, Sunghir, Gravettian, Aurignacian, all of these guys were converging on Neanderthalism, which is the morphological homeostasis of Hyperborea.

        ANE and EHG were tall heavy bearded muscular and had sex with tiny asian virgins while bloodied proto changs and goblinobeano nahuats watches in a mix of terror and pleasure.
        That’s just how history is, the White man has always ruled. Why are you surprised when blue eyed BWC decimates asia? Always has been

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          ANE paternal haplogroups came from the Tianyuan part of their ancestry, so it would have been tiny Asian men snu-snuing with huge Neanderthaloid women.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            ANE’s haplogroup came from a ghost population that was loosely related to Ust Ishim and provided the non-Asian portion of Tianyuan’s ancestry.
            Tianyuan wasn’t even asian and his genetic legacy maxes out at less than 30%. He was overrun by much smaller groups. Tianyuan being partially archaic Siberian was much larger than the Devils Gate monkeys who drove him to extinction.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            One look at the phylogeography of K2b and you'd realize how moronic you are.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >HIJK found in Europe
            >IJK found in East Europe/Caucsus
            >K found in Siberia
            >K2 found in East Siberia
            Its evident you read the wikipage on K2 and dont actually know the distribution of K* to K2b1

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No one really knows what their skin tone looked like. That image you posted could very well be accurate, but we all know it was made that way because that's what is most appealing to academics. They were darker than ANFs, anything more than that is speculation.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    OP reminds me of a deranged boomer on some news websites

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My ancestor 🙂
    T. I2 survivor

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