Which civilization impressed more, ancient China or greece?

Mathematics. Astronomy. Military. Philosophy. Economy. Which society was more advanced and contributed more to the human species?

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  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    every east asian state emulated China, every european state emulated the Greeks or the Romans, who emulated the Greeks. There's a reason by the time extensive knowledge of the Roman Empire was gained by the Chinese, they literally just called it "Other China".

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >knowledge of the Roman Empire was gained by the Chinese, they literally just called it "Other China".
      Let's not forget what the Romans called the Chinese, "barbarians."

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        the greeks would have called the romans barbarians

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          At some point, sure. But the Greeks called the Greeks as "Romans" at some point also.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >But the Greeks called the Greeks as "Romans" at some point also.
            sure and they also called the turks "master" at some point as well

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ancient Greece was so far ahead of China, the shit mathematicians came up with hundreds of years BC was new and revolutionary when the Chinese were introduced to it in the 18th/19th centuries. They aren't really comparable. Greece was a philosopher/scientist/mathematician's paradise, whereas China was a big Black personcattle peasant farm centered around the forbidden city, which had a bunch of troony eunuchs and a manchild emperor who did nothing but smoke opium and frick prostitutes all day.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        He looks magnificent

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Better pack my things and go then.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      china is a lot more like rome, it made a lot of inventions in civil and military engineering not in abstract thinking like science or formal logic

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I suppose. How was Chinese metallurgy like?

        >knowledge of the Roman Empire was gained by the Chinese, they literally just called it "Other China".
        Let's not forget what the Romans called the Chinese, "barbarians."

        Rude.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >How was Chinese metallurgy like?
          very advanced and then lost to time. no one today knows how to forge han era goujian sword. it's like damascus steel.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I know jian means sword in Chinese, so what does gou mean?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            ah my bad it wasn't han era but even earlier. goujian was the yue king, jian isn't sword in this case.
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goujian

  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Greece and it's not even close

  4. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Did China contribute anything?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      They contributed gunpowder and many deadly pandemics.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >They contributed gunpowder
        and paper, printing, the compass, ballast, rudder, paddle wheel, pound lock canal, seed drill, crossbow, rockets, artillery, grenades, landmines, flamethrowers

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >chinks walk up to Europeans with gunpowder
          >rook wat we make, gweilo
          >Thank you Chang, very cool
          >*returns a century later with gunships and subjugates the whole empire*

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            china invented the gun. chinese soldiers fought british and french soldiers with guns. their guns were just 200 years out of date and completely outranged.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >china invented the gun
            They actually didn't.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            china invented their own muskets, even some breech loading ones in the ming era. by far the most distinctive is the wall gun, which is either fired against a wall or held by 2 people. it was the main weapon used by qing infantry.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Then Europeans blasted a gigantic hole in their demographics and general civilizational energy with the world wars with that gunpowder.
            It’s kind of poetic, really. They misused it and then committed suicide with it.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            it's both bizarre and poetic how the europeans ended 4 centuries of their total domination of the world by turning their latest most advanced heavy guns against each other

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            It is, isn’t it? Multiple entire generations of Frenchmen, Russians, Germans and Britons that could have been occupying colonized chunks of China ended up being buried in mass graves through their own intereuropean squabbles.
            The amount of lost potential squandered by the Europeans from 1914-1945 is staggering. India and Vietnam also probably couldn’t have broken free without Britain and France burning massive amounts of manpower and money maintaining a defensive line against the Germans.
            Japan was left as the only colonial power remaining that could maybe conquer a decent chunk of China, then they got nuked the end.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          All invented by the Greeks except for gunpowder and paper, for which Greeks used papyrus already

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >papyrus
            not comparable to paper. unusable for the printing press. it's like comparing a musket to a rifle.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            The printing press was imvented very late in China, after the ancient classical and hellenistic age, and independently invented in Europe by Germans in its most sophisticated version

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            but that wasn't the argument. you or the other poster claimed papyrus is comparable to paper when it isn't. you need chinese paper and ink for a printing press to work.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Europeans used a different formula and more advanced methods like the water mallets to mass produce paper

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            china uses patented technology and more advanced methods to make high performance ev batteries. wow china invented the battery. amazing

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >They contributed gunpowder
        and paper, printing, the compass, ballast, rudder, paddle wheel, pound lock canal, seed drill, crossbow, rockets, artillery, grenades, landmines, flamethrowers

        Every single one of these things was founded by either Greeks, Egyptians, or Akkadians.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          WE

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Other than the compass and gunpowder he's correct

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            europeans didn't come up with the printing press until they got chinese papermaking and printing in the medieval era
            britain actually got the idea of rockets from some indians who got it from mongols who got it from china. that was how the congrieve rocket was made.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          then how come no one in europe figured out the seed drill until jethro tull in the 18th century?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      all things related to civilization (philosophy, religion, law, politics, military, writing, art, music) in the far east originates from china. china developed it all independently of the sumer -> egypt -> greece -> rome ecosystem

  5. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Greece for the western world. They built it and all we do now is expand on it

  6. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Greece by a far margin. The fact that they managed to prove the existence of irrational numbers is very impressive.

  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ancient China is a meme. They had nothing its all faked by the CCP.
    Didn't the Germans prove the terracotta warriors were made in the 70s

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Didn't the Germans prove the terracotta warriors were made in the 70s
      maybe in schizoland where you reside

  8. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Chinese for a lot of the practical engineering and chemistry but very little of the theory, greeks for the theory and actual understanding, romans for diffusing it, arabs for preserving it, euros for capitalizing on it.

  9. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    white is always better

  10. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >left
    Building from 500 years ago
    >Right
    Building from 2500 years ago
    What did they mean by this?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >>left
      >Building from 500 years ago

      >Building from 2500 years ago
      >What did they mean by th-ACK

      >5000 years ago entered the chat

  11. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ancient Greeks vs Ancient Chinese? Obviously the Greeks

    Medieval Greeks vs Medieval Chinese? That’s a different story.

  12. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Greece by far.

    >you are just saying that because Greeks are white you heckin' racistarino
    China didn't have Euclidean geometry until the Jesuits brought it to them. China had a few unique innovations like the blast furnace, but this may be due to local iron resources which were high in impurities or in the case of something like gunpowder a product of China being a huge place with a huge population increasing the likelihood of someone in China randomly stumbling across a discovery or invention. So objectively China was less innovative than Greece and the Mediterranean region in general, probably less to do with genetics and more to do with thriving trade.

  13. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ancient Chinese civilization didn't even start until the late 3rd century BC under the Qin dynasty.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Ancient Chinese civilization didn't even start until the late 3rd century BC under the Qin dynasty.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's it, just post a meme instead of addressing my position with actual arguments.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >That's it, just post a meme instead of addressing my position with actual arguments.
          >Confucius? Mencius? Sun Tsu? Feng shui? They are not part of Ancient Chinese culture!

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Culture =/= monolithic civilization

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Culture =/= monolithic civilization

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Webm unrelated?

            I don't even know what that's supposed to mean but it genuinely made me physically lol.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Webm unrelated?
            >I don't even know what that's supposed to mean but it genuinely made me physically lol.

  14. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    There are greek statues in japan. It's pretty clear which was more influential.

  15. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like how the picture you use really says it all.
    On the right you have an actual ancient Greek ruin while on the left you have a """"reconstruction"""" of basically the most elaborate version of ancient China people won't call them out on.

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