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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I want a monitor with hwhite glass and white bezels instead of the blekk. also TN wins.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    IPS for monitor and VA for TV. The lower contrast on IPS reduces eyestrain.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The lower contrast on IPS reduces eyestrain
      Does it, though?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's just easy on the eyes. The human eye doesn't care if the text on the screen isn't perfect black when the areas that immediately surrounds the text is light.
        Look up how the human eye perceives contrast and light.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    IPS for me. Just werks.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Just werks
      Is the horrendous backlight bleed a part of your "just werks" philosophy?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I use my computer in a well-lit room

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          How do you manage the eye strain?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            High contrast settings

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sounds like a skill issue

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    IPS for now, but WHVA has piqued my interest for VA again
    hopefully it comes to monitors

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What does whva change

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >whva
        Wide viewing angles, traditionally one of VA's major weakpoints: https://www.tomsguide.com/news/tcl-shows-off-new-csot-technology-and-it-could-be-a-game-changer-for-lcd-tvs

        There have been wide-angle films applied to VA before, but not without drawbacks. WHVA seems to be an improvement over those.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Even HVA is rare as frick. Can't see this coming any time soon.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Is this similar to the WVA display panels on laptop displays?

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    IPS
    and its not even close
    even the praised ones VA like recent never available AOC Q27G3XMN have issues with black to gray fast transitions

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >AOC
      >praised

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Glossy IPS

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      we mostly ugly on IQfy
      my matte panels never felt like they needed more saturation, that colors need to be ugly
      but I dont want to look at my face during loading screen or during dark scene in a movie
      and i know i know.. you just control light in your room... but even little light is enough to get reflection

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        your TV has a glossy panel, your phone has a glossy panel, your laptop has a glossy panel

        why does your desktop monitor need a matte panel exactly? the only reason these things even existed is because of wagies living in cubicles where they had white LED lights blasting in the office 24/7

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >phone
          because nits lost on daylight would be too much
          >tv
          because they know that saturated vivid colors is what sells more units as people would see matte tvs in stores next to glossy competition and would think its garbage

          also likely most of us use monitors overwhelmingly for reading, this is not IQfy or IQfy board
          which also made me think of one experience with VA panel

          https://i.imgur.com/DwHVZdd.jpeg

          Which way, IQfyentlemen?

          dont get VA even just scrolling on a dark theme website like [h]ard forum made smears
          and also whatever you get, check minimal brightness in reviews
          I had monitor that could not go under like 80 nits and imagine you have too bright monitor that cant go lower just tiny bit cuz floor is already reached..

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nothing is readable when you scroll at a decent speed. Judging motion on screenshots isn't true to life.
            OLED phone. IPS monitor. TCL QM8 (modern VA) TV. 120Hz on the phone and TV and the monitor is 165Hz.
            Best to worst in terms of motion handling in that order as well, but I don't pretend any of them are readable when motion picks up thanks to sample and hold.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            240Hz sub 1ms GTG IPS monitors can get fairly clear scrolling text. With strobing I can even scroll too fast to read it all.
            Now it's still not CRT levels of clarity, but we're getting there with 540Hz panels and up.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It truly doesn't matter unless you're hitting roughly 500Hz or higher. They all blur like crazy and only spastics obsess over it. VA has issues with very low light and very high contrast motion. IPS has awful overall contrast that requires several times more dimming zones and an even more granular level of backlight level control (driving cost up) to compete with VA in blooming. OLED has a terrible lifespan, has DSE issues, most of them crush shadow detail, force ABL to not kill themselves quite as fast as they would otherwise which makes them look worse in bright scenes, and they cost more than they should. There's a reason I have all 3 types of technologies in different applications.

            And of course CRT is garbage everywhere but motion clarity, and plasma isn't too different.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >It truly doesn't matter unless you're hitting roughly 500Hz or higher.
            That's why I said we're getting there.
            You can buy a 540Hz panel right now. And you will hit those fps in desktop applications guaranteed. And strobing is great for reducing pixel refresh times, and newer implementations work even with VRR, so it's no longer limited to a couple of fixed refresh rates.
            So the endgame of a strobed VRR 500Hz OLED is actually in sight.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >540Hz panel right now
            If you want TN. And nothing even remotely recent will run at that kind of framerate. Esports games are trash so they don't count. Great on the desktop and older games, sure, but that's about it because nobody is recording anything at 500 FPS. It's also moronicly expensive.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Esports games are trash so they don't count
            You're not a real gamer if you don't play at least one of them.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Good. Those games are for moronic rodents on running wheels.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You can't strobe an OLED in the traditional way, but you can send black images to it. it should work at a driver level or in software much better than other panel types due to the low pixel refresh times.
            https://www.testufo.com/blackframes

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Black frame insertion cuts your brightness in half. Not something good until 4,000 nits becomes standard so you can still retain 2,000 nit specular highlights, one of OLED's few true strengths.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >2000 nits
            What the frick do you need that much for?
            I'm fine with 200 nits and sometimes turn it down depending on what I am doing.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The next time you go out for your yearly venture from the basement, look at the glint of sun on clean water on a clear sunny day. Specular highlights are what actually put OLED ahead in raw picture quality, and the only thing that would tempt me over a top tier VA miniLED from this year or last. 2,000 nit highlights in HDR content is bright enough without being too fatiguing. My TV already gets nearly that bright and nits are not a linear measurement so 100-200 more wouldn't be world changing. You aren't even using an OLED properly if you're not taking advantage of HDR. 200 nits is well within SDR range and contrast to the human eye there is fairly low

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >And of course CRT is garbage everywhere but motion clarity, and plasma isn't too different.
            CRT static pq is miles ahead of even modern LCDs.
            perfect viewing angles and blacks go along way
            I sometimes take a step back just to admire the beauty of my monitor, LCD has never made me feel that way

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >CRT proselytizing
            You're technologically illiterate.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I just prefer crts as monitors.
            Going to use them aslong as physically possible
            OLED is nice for TVs though

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That means I'm not wrong. CRT homosexuals are notoriously insufferable and ignorant and you're no different.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            if being informed means spending thousands on new monitors and high end GPUs id rather remain ignorant

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Being informed means not doing that either.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            so what does it mean to you
            sticking to some mediocre lcd panel
            been there, done that crt is much better
            been actively using them as main monitors for about 3 years now, tossed my old 16 9 lcd in the trash

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You live in the past.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            CRTs were the future.
            flatpanels are a stupid gimmick tech

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >75 Hz

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            with a crt 75hz are enough.
            hz are a crutch only lcds need because they are garbage.
            CRTs were more then capable of doing 200hz ore even more, yet almost no one cared back in the day because the tech is fundamentally better in motion.
            75hz crt blows away even 240hz OLED in motion

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Of all the things to make fun of on CRTs, making fun of the refresh rates isn't a very valid one because it doesn't use sample and hold to display a picture. 75Hz motion on a CRT looks like 500Hz+ top tier modern TN panel. It's not a perfect technology at all, but this is its one unmatched strength. The problem is when people pretend this is all that matters and ignore the full reality of the situation. It's not too different from how some people say they hate bloom as a concept, when bloom does actually exist in real life. It's the artistic implementation of bloom that's usually flawed and unnatural and aggravating. The disconnect from real life is strong with display autists.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            no bigger number must be better, what do you mean i spend 500$ for a 360hz monitor and it gets outperformed by a 5$ crt

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >crt
            >perfect blacks
            Didn't these have shit contrast?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >your TV has a glossy panel
          No
          >your phone has a glossy panel
          Yes but it's a touchscreen
          >your laptop has a glossy panel
          No

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I have a matte screen protector on my phone

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I wish. Hate matte panels but for some reason most monitors are.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      based. Seems like Apple is the only company that understands this.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Does cum look better on glossy screens that you semen slurping apple gays like it better?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Glossy TN 768p 15 inch laptop display are my favourite.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >VA

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Do you have a webm of the exact same test, but on an IPS panel? The difference should be easily seen then.

      Having said that, both IPS and VA are completely garbage. And that this is an undisputed fact. It's literally a battle of which is less stinky and shit.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nah they only did TN sadly.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't know how good Samsung VA panels are, but apparently Samsung have been able to mostly eliminate typical VA issues like black smearing and other issues.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          TN looks better here???

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          people with VA panels can't tell the difference.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I so want an OLED monitor or TV but i am so fricking scared of burn in, frick

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      So replace it when it burns in. Electronics are disposable consumer goods and by the time one wears out something better is on offer.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I bit the bullet anon and use it for work as well and it's "fine", with an asterisk. A pop up comes up every 4hrs asking to do a quick pixel refresh, so that's when I take a break. It can be disabled.
      First two weeks using it and this is honestly the least problematic, but you may notice issues with the fringing on the fonts. It seems unavoidable, due to use of pentile sub-pixel layout, so you might want to go for 4k screen rather than 2k.
      I've noticed this having switched from IPS and it is worse in some colour combinations than others.
      But honestly wouldn't want to go back to IPS with its own issues.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      OLED TV is goated but monitors are shit.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        There are new monitors on the block
        With panels from Samsung and LG which have QD-OLED and W-OLED that is ment to make them less shit

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >blown out shit colors
      >impossible to calibrate
      >but also burn-in
      Anyone who uses OLED outside mobile devices is certifiably moronic.

      So replace it when it burns in. Electronics are disposable consumer goods and by the time one wears out something better is on offer.

      you have to go back

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Infinite contrast ratio is le bad
        Found the IPS pleb

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Contrast in a desktop display only has utility relative to non-zero output. It's not a phone constantly displaying the time on your nightstand. Just chill with the autogynophylia and turn on the lights when you're at the computer.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >he doesnt know about ips glow in a dark room
            this is why they tell you to have the lights dimmed for IPS gaming

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Literally nobody says that. You provide sufficient ballast light to prevent eye strain and install a hood if you're really worried about incident light interference. You don't buy a special display with uncontrollable color output and turn your room into a gay vtuber larp scene. That's ridiculous.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >still the GOAT
    until OLED drops half its price ofcourse.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is your GOAT?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >5 years old
        >1440p 240hz TN
        >free-sync
        >excellent response times with minimal overshoot (if any at all)
        Yeah. Nothing comes close other than OLED.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          What about the color accuracy / view angles?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >color accuracy
            Irrelevant unless you do color-sensitive work. I want my display to look good, not necessarily be accurate.
            >view angles
            Why would this matter if you're facing the monitor from the front?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >hp
      do not care how "good" it is
      not buying it

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I want a monitor with hwhite glass and white bezels instead of the blekk. also TN wins.

      >TN shit
      Are gaymers blind or something? Too many cumshots in the eye I guess

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    LG have a 27" OLED for £750, 240 Hz, 0.03 ms response time. Worth it?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >£750
      No. Budget phones have been using OLED panels for years.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        >£750
        No, not for that price.

        That's definitely a WOLED monitor from last year. If you need an OLED monitor right now, you might as well save up like an extra 100-150 for the new QD OLED monitors from Alienware (AW2725DF) and MSI (MPG271QRX-QD) that just released. Unless you can get that WOLED monitor for like 500-600, I would say it's not worth it. Especially if it's the inferior LG 27GR95QE-B.

        ty

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can get a c3 for that money. 1440p oled is a scam.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I went from TN 144hz 1080p to IPS 144hz 2k and my performance in games has tanked ever since. This shit is simply worse and I'm going to go back to TN if OLED 360hz don't come soon and don't prove to have some other moronic flaw.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I find 27" too big personally. 24.5" is kino.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Try lowering the resolution in games you moron.
      1440p is the sweet spot for desktop use, as it's perfectly dense and gives you a lot of space without needing to scale like on 4k.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not talking about FPS (FRAMES PER SECOND), I'm talking about my own gameplay performance being worse because the monitor is worse at showing me a clear picture fast.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe you should have looked at rtings monitor reviews before buying. My 1440 Hz 1440p monitor has as good or lower latencies as my previous main 1080p 165 Hz gaming monitor. So not necessarily fault of the resolution. Try disabling bullshit in your monitor configuration.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Which IPS monitor did you buy? The cheap ones are probably slow, but I got the best IPS monitor and it's fast as frick.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >curved
        subhuman

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Open your fricking eyes, you fricking idiot

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          anon . . .

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        do you happen to know if the panel they use is offered by other brands? the shape of the plastic in the back won't work well with my monitor lamp

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The processing matters almost as much as the panel when it comes to any kind of motion. My TV got an update last week that improved motion.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I am unsure, it could be that that specific panel type was exclusive to Alienware, but I did find other fast IPS displays like the LG 27GR83Q-B. It seems that the LG is even better than the Alienware I have. It has very fast response times at any refresh rate and very low input lag. It's also cheaper. I would probably get this

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The Alienware one also comes as 1080p 360hz 25 inch which seems like a great lil option.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I've seen that one, it's pretty good. Alienware in general is pretty good when it comes to monitors, but they do some shady shit as well like advertising HDMI 2.1 but not really supporting it. Their quality and OSD is generally good.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >£750
    No, not for that price.

    That's definitely a WOLED monitor from last year. If you need an OLED monitor right now, you might as well save up like an extra 100-150 for the new QD OLED monitors from Alienware (AW2725DF) and MSI (MPG271QRX-QD) that just released. Unless you can get that WOLED monitor for like 500-600, I would say it's not worth it. Especially if it's the inferior LG 27GR95QE-B.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      LG have a 27" OLED for £750, 240 Hz, 0.03 ms response time. Worth it?

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I got an ASUS ROG Strix XG27UQ on offer (I forget what I paid) but it's a good monitor. I never use the 144Hz mode. I did try it out but it didn't make so much difference that I care enough.
    I was using a cheap trash 4K monitor prior to this one.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Flat, 32", HVA, 1440p 240hz monitor.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i simply cant buy these meme logo monitors

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I bought a chink AIWA 1080p 100Hz freesync 1ms monitor for 100€. I don't even know if it's VA or TN because I don't care.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    anyone who actually thinks VA is good should rope

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      IPS for monitor
      OLED for tv
      is the only correct answer

      22'' 75Hz 1080p IPS
      Imagine needing more.

      >Why yes, I enjoy washed out no contrast IPS dogshit. How did you know?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >my shit smells less shit compared to your shit

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Uhh yeah IPS is worse, take that!
          Kek nice self-own

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            lmao wtf is that shit on the left? my IPS looks like right

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >my IPS looks like right
            Nice larp

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        right looks better

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous
        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Giga cope

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            that is a TFT panel

            in a well lit room they perform the same

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >in a well lit room they perform the same
            Delusional.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            concession accepted

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            theyre all called tft-lcd screens moronic zoomie

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            IPS is not TFT-LCD

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Impressive, very nice. Now let's see it in motion.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    IPS for monitor
    OLED for tv
    is the only correct answer

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why not OLED for monitor? I want to be able to see BLACKS as BLACK as possible

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        just for durability reasons, lots of static content is a thing on pc but for tv use case which is mainly movies and games it is a non issue.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    22'' 75Hz 1080p IPS
    Imagine needing more.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's honestly good enough for most things. A lot of the details people freak out over aren't nearly as big of a deal as they are in real life. It's like arguing over who got a bigger slice of turkey and measuring in micrograms. The numbers exaggerate the actual perceptual differences.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I love my VA panel the colours are amazing and the motion looks decent as well, granted you don't suffer from motion sickness ahaha.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Does a display technology exist that is free of this garbage. I don't remember it when I got my first lcd that used a fluorescent tube for the lighting but now every panel i buy has light that bleeds like this.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      yes it's called crt, plasma and oled
      but these come with their own problems aswell

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >crt
        have you tried to buy a trinitron lately? the prices are outrageous and i refuse to use any other crt. i remember crts and most were shit.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          you only option is oled then these days
          or mini led but even that will have a small amount of it depending on what is on screen

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >the prices are outrageous and i refuse to use any other crt.
          thank you for your service anon.
          Selling trinitrons to idiots and buying actually good reasonably priced crts instead is what id do in the US.
          since most trinitrons require being connected to the PC with a serial port for calibration you could probably buy the trinitron from the moron you sold it to because its "broken" after a few weeks.
          Trinitrons are nice monitors, but windas is annoying and generally they arent much or at all better then the competition.
          Sony gays are the apple gays of the retro community

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      High end miniLEDs. Most newer decent LCDs in general don't suffer from low effort backlights like that anymore, it's a very early/mid 2010s issue. But not monitors because manufactures always skimp on them because they know gaymers are suckers. Either way, you'll just find something to be upset about no matter what you look into because no display is perfect.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        high end mini led is expensive even more so than some oleds
        not worth it imo

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          A quality large miniLED is still cheaper than a quality large OLED.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      your pic is an exaggeration
      only phone cameras with long exposure see that
      picrel is my ips

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      only shit cheap panels have extreme bleed like this. but it is more common in todays displays than it used to be 10-15 years back

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      yeah, IPS with ATW filter

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They use this on tv's all the time, why is it so rare on monitors?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          monitor panels are usually throwaway waste left from manufacturing TV panels made the cheapest way possible to sell to moronic gamer kids. long gone are times when displays were made primarily for displaying Word documents and Excel spreadsheets when the focus was on backlight uniformity and text sharpness

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    IPS more like i piss.
    but seriously, i need the colour accuracy so it's ips.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    here's a quick monitor guide for 2024

    Are your poor?
    Yes -> Buy a 200$ 1440p 144hz IPS at best and save money for next step

    No -> Are you a pro gamer?
    No-> Buy one of the MSI/ASUS/GIGABYTE/LG 4K 240hz QD/WOLED monitors
    Yes-> Consider the 540hz 24" TN monitors or the 360hz 1440p OLED monitors OR the 480hz 1080p 4k dual mode LG 32" one

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Thoughts on this, assuming I don't need 2k? (currently have 2k and don't think it's necessary)

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      isn't > 144 Hz barely noticable?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Barely noticeable by sight alone, but absolutely noticeable increased smoothness and responsiveness when you play.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        nothing above 720p@30 is needed but human greed trumps all

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >nothing above 720p@30 is needed

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      looks good I'd get it for the nice clean design alone over similarly priced panels with almost the exact same specs

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. I don't think there's another 360 Hz, 1080p monitor out there for a similar price or even cheaper. It's a very fast monitor, so great for competitive games.

      There's a 500 Hz version, the AW2524HF if you wanna go really crazy and have the hardware to push that far. Not necessary though.

      isn't > 144 Hz barely noticable?

      I can easily tell the difference between 144 frames and 360 frames. It's smoother and when you're playing a game, it is 100% noticeable if you've got decent eyes. If you're buying a new monitor now, there is absolutely no need to cheap out that much and get that low of a refresh rate.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    whatever one is a monitor and works and lets me see the furry porn i'm rendering

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Went to Mediamarkt
    >Looked at several monitors
    >Settled on one
    >Turned out to be VA
    Dunno if that means anything. It's good enough for me. Was like 300€.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >spending 300 euros for a VA monitor in 2024

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, and?

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I got a KTC IPS and Sceptre VA right infront of me now. The VA has better black levels, the IPS has better response times.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dell G2724D IPS is fantastic, 1440p@165hz, gsync support, and occasionally on sale for <220 from Dell directly.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      i have this or very similar
      i do not care much about color, but looks correct. the configuration is good; minimal bullshit, actually working brightness control (nothing to bright), on other monitors brightness at zero was basically what i had to run them at for less eye strain. starts fast. low latency. minor bug is sometimes it black screens on reboot, off and on monitor to fix
      highly recommend this no bullshit monitor, even at the price i bought which was around 300 usd in europe. 200 usd as i can see it is at now is a downright steal

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      i have this or very similar
      i do not care much about color, but looks correct. the configuration is good; minimal bullshit, actually working brightness control (nothing to bright), on other monitors brightness at zero was basically what i had to run them at for less eye strain. starts fast. low latency. minor bug is sometimes it black screens on reboot, off and on monitor to fix
      highly recommend this no bullshit monitor, even at the price i bought which was around 300 usd in europe. 200 usd as i can see it is at now is a downright steal

      >https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-27-gaming-monitor-g2724d/apd/210-bhxc/monitors-monitor-accessories
      >https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/dell/g2724d

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's a good monitor but lacks backlight strobing/BFI. I can't say there's any true negative to it except the lack of extra features found on other similar monitors.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >because you'll just read supposed specs from some comparison tool that does jack shit for a real world preview.
    That's not how it works, homosexual. Monitors aren't headphones. You would have a point if you were talking about audio and audio measurements where I would agree with you that that does not necessarily translate to what you actually hear. With monitors, specs translate to what you see with your eyes. Dogshit response times are real, ghosting is real, black smearing is real, and you will see and notice all of this.

    The next time you're in a game and it's night and the sky is filled with stars, move and the blacks will spill over the stars. The next time you scroll through a site with a black background and white text, watch as the blacks spills over the text.

    There is only 1 VA monitor worth buying for that price, and there is a very good chance you did not buy it, my friend.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >specs translate to what you see with your eyes.
      Screenshotting motion doesn't. Only experiencing a few very outdated 10+ year old models doesn't. Stop being a janny.
      The differences are smaller than you think because your real life point of reference isn't realistic or up to date.

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    IPS, like a pro.

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i like black (color) and hate IPS glow so for me its VA

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    QD-OLED or go home
    >huge color space for HDR
    >per pixel dimming
    >best pixel response times among panels
    > >165 Hz refresh rates

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >monitors use 70W
    wtf
    it costs me 100 euros per year to have my monitor on for 16 hours a day

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      turns out having a backlight on all the time uses a lot of power. thats why phones switched to oled. a dark background with pixels off saves energy.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      not if you have 5% brightness

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >monitor with good price and specs won't be compatible with my monitor light
    frick off

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    blasma 😀

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I sent my Dell S3220DGF back and got a S2721DGF instead
    frick VA, its awful smeary trash

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Which is cheaper

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      VA, mostly.

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Question to everyone in this thread:

    Are mini LED IPS monitors the best allrounders? Let's take a look at some of the facts:
    >VA
    Slow as frick, ghosting is rampant, awful black smearing, shit viewing angles.
    >IPS
    Horrific contrast ratio and IPS glow.
    >OLED
    VRR flickering, shit text clarity, and of course the limited lifespan.

    >Mini LED IPS
    Fast, no black smearing of VA, solid viewing angles, capable of real HDR (not as good as OLED, but still real HDR), good text clarity and no limited lifespan like OLED

    The new MSI MPG 272QPX coming out soon
    >Mini LED, IPS
    >1000 nits peak brightness
    >27"
    >1440p
    >500 Hz
    >1152 local dimming zones

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Mini LED IPS
      I was on this train but it seems like a bandaid. What happened to that 5000+ zone Redmagic monitor?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm literally looking at this monitor right now as I'm reading this post. What the hell is Redmagic? Is this a Chinese brand? 5000+ dimming zones is insane, I've never seen that before, max I've seen is like 2000.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah it's a chinese brand. They usually make gaming smartphones I think.
          >5000+ dimming zones is insane, I've never seen that before, max I've seen is like 2000.
          Yeah and the only reviews of it online are from chinese reviewers. It's been out for a few months and we still don't have any info. I don't think it's available to buy anywhere outside of China as of yet.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            What's the price in China? No way this is cheap, not even in China

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Maybe another anon can help but I can only find this.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Last year I tried a 27'' monitor with around 500 zones.
      The blooming was very noticable when watching anime and any content with noise had the dimming zones flicker.
      It was very distracting.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nobody has put enough zones behind an IPS for it to not have awful blooming. The native contrast for an IPS panel is 1,000:1 and a VA is 3,000:1. This makes a huge difference and even VA needs 2,000 zones with decent control over them to control blooming very well. There are also different levels of backlight control and different algorithms to control them and that also matters. The new Sony Bravia 9 that was recently showed off isn't interesting because of the number of dimming zones because you can already buy TVs with a similar number, it's the 20 bit backlight control (significantly more levels of brightness) and their proprietary algorithm that decides how bright a zone should be at any given time. I suspect the improvements are not as dramatic as the infamously rabid Sony fanboys make it out to be relative to other models that have similar zone counts, but it is definitely going to be a much needed push in the right direction for advancing miniLED technology.

      IPS is going to need at least 3 times more dimming zones than a VA unless an new variant of IPS comes out with native contrast similar to VA. And that's assuming the appropriate processing is applied, which it isn't on monitors because consumer monitors are junk on purpose because gaymers will buy anything as long as you apply the right marketing.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Any miniLED with less than 30k dimming zones (for 1440p, 80k for 4k) is useless due to the bloom.

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Got it for 700

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I was almost going to buy VA, but the prospect of freesync flickering just put me off. I'd rather have crappy contrast than flickering which I'm bound to get.

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The washed out blacks on IPS can suck my wiener. Even the colors look much better on OLED. Once you've seen the difference you can't go back.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Once you've seen the difference you can't go back.
      I still prefer having glossy IPS over OLED as it puts my mind to ease about burn-in and color degradation over time. OLED for TV is perfect but for PC it's stupid

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I still prefer having glossy IPS over OLED
        I'd rather buy a new OLED every 2 years than suffer from dogshit IPS contrast and glow. OLED burn-in is overblown anyway.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It doesn't look that bad in person.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          What movie is that?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Looks like Ava (2020).

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Matte 4k IPS because I am not a child. Yeah yeah the glow super sucks, but I do work :tm:

    OLED burn in is ridiculous. My phone has significant burn in and it's a fricking phone. I can't imagine ever buying an OLED monitor. For TVs, it makes sense. I am just going to ideally use my IPS panels for 10+ more years until microLED finally ships. MiniLED seems like a decent compromise, but I don't have much experience with them.

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    IPS
    I only watch anime which is bright solid colours so contrast doesn't matter, but viewing angle gamma shift does

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      > I only watch anime
      opinion discarded

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Tourist

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Man the first time I watched EoE on OLED I shit my pants

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Did you calibrate to sRGB or just think that sRGB stretched onto a wide colour gamut unicorn vomit looks good...?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          No I just like color that isn't washed out

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    MicroLED.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Never going to happen thanks to the tech oligarchs for obvious reasons

      Perfection isn't profitable, goy.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      MicroLED progress went on a halt last 5 years for ~~*unkown*~~ reasons. What seemed a mere decade or two away is now forever. OLED israelitery is here to stay. If they can sell you planned obsolescence they absolutely will.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >If they can sell you planned obsolescence they absolutely will.
        fricking hate ~~*them*~~

  45. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    So when can we expect this tier of back light dimming to be available in monitors?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      3+ years before its pricing isn't moronic because monitors are always at least that far behind. And by then the Bravia 9 will look outdated because 10,000 zones will be more common in TVs and WHVA panels will probably be out by then as well and those will have 5,000:1 native contrast vs VA's current 3,000:1. And that means even better blooming control even with the same number of zones or brighter specular highlights with similar blooming. Having a bunch of zones is one thing (and extremely important despite what Sony's marketing team says), but having very fine control over their brightness is another and also very important.

  46. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    for me, it's the Samsung Neo G7 32''
    best of all worlds

  47. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is OLED really that much better than IPS for response time?
    Motion clarity is important to me

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      OLED is top tier in response time. Too bad it doesn't really translate to motion clarity. Wait for more OLED's with better BFI. Pic related is PG34WCDM with bfi on.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Oh yeah and check out ULMB2 monitors. Might be better. I forgot about that up until now.

  48. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I bought a 1440p 32" LG Ultragear which is VA in 2020. Honestly no complaints but I'm also not doing any side by sides. It was my first proper gaymen monitor and I was coming from using a 32' shitty samsung tv for years with just legible but blurry text.

    Part of the reason I went with it was at the time there seemed to be no other decent priced options at that size that WASN'T curved. I'm not really a fan of curved monitors

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      kek just checked. paid $390 for this november of 2020. 165hz version goes for $220 now
      >LG 32GK650F-B 32
      that's cool though. means whenever I upgrade shit will be way better since I dont really see a need to upgrade this yet. Still running a 3gb gtx 1060 laptop from 2018 kek

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm also not doing any side by sides
      That's also why perfect color accuracy isn't required. Unless you have a calibrated and flawless technology reference point right next to your display, it won't matter too much unless you bought complete garbage. Even OLED suffers from flaws like crushed shadow detail. Yes, even the ones reviewers say don't crush shadow detail, do crush extremely low luminance detail. This, along with being much brighter overall, is why the Sony BVM-HX3110 mastering monitor is a dual layer LCD with miniLED backlighting.

      >Why don't they make all displays like that?
      Because it's a 450W 30" display that weighs 75lbs and costs $30,000.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I bought a 1440p 32" LG Ultragear which is VA in 2020.
      COVID stimulus check?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      kek just checked. paid $390 for this november of 2020. 165hz version goes for $220 now
      >LG 32GK650F-B 32
      that's cool though. means whenever I upgrade shit will be way better since I dont really see a need to upgrade this yet. Still running a 3gb gtx 1060 laptop from 2018 kek

      Extremely nice.
      Happy Summer '24, Anona.

  49. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    OLED, poorgays

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      MicroLED, poorgay.

  50. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >He never used an OLED

  51. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    mini-led

  52. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are there modern 120hz 1080p monitors with amazing black levels and image quality that are reasonably sized instead of being 30 inches?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No. All displays suck. Have fun getting mad and just picking the one that personally bothers you the least.
      It's like picking a social media website to more or less stick with. I hate this place, but I hate it a bit less than other places. Many people hate this place more than their favorite place, but they still hate their favorite place too.

  53. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    IPS, TN and VA are just marketing terms, the specs of the actual panel are much more important. There are tn panels that have better colors than cheap consumer va or ips

  54. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    VA is horrid. I'd rather use TN than that.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >VA is horrid. I'd rather use T-
      Found the poorgay lol

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >calling other people poorgays
        >buys shitty cheap samsung lcd
        haha

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Copium

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            you are projecting your own poverty on others.
            if you really wanted something good you would have bought an OLED

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Unless he has different priorities and use cases and wants it to last a long time. OLED is fine if you throw money at shiny new things every 3 years and then wonder why you're always tired and stressed out. Or even in debt/barely in the green constantly.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            oled at reasonable brightness settings hould last much longer.
            besides, lcds crap out and die all the time because modern ones are made cheap as frick.
            lose lose situation, but atleast OLED gives you the best pq

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not comparing it to a cheap LCD. The top miniLED models from last year and this year look like an OLED (and sometimes better depending on the scene) in 90% of real content as long as you're not pausing and looking for blooming on purpose. Yes, even in gaming when you buy Sony, TCL, and Hisense because they don't get lazy on backlight control trying to upsell you to OLED. I'll gladly give up that extra performance for better overall brightness for HDR and a longer lifespan. They cost a bit less as well. Monitors being years behind for miniLED isn't my problem because I buy the cheapest IPS with very good motion handling. I prefer SDR on a computer. OLED is more efficient in dark mode and you're not using it 10 hours a day at full brightness nonstop and you're just going to trade your phone in every 2-3 years anyway so the screen dying or getting too dim over time isn't a realistic concern for practically everyone.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I have the feeling most people are really just using OLED wrong.
            my phone is over 10 years old and it has an early OLED and yet 0 burn.
            The thing with OLED is high brightness is its cryptonite.
            if you use it at the stupidly high advertised nits yes its gonna die quick.
            If you calibrate to 100 nits max its gonna last forever.
            plus you wont have to deal with ABL at that brightness

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The main advantage of OLED is specular highlights, and that means high brightness. OLED is a disposable technology with a premium price tag. That's the whole problem with it.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >OLED is a disposable technology with a premium price tag.
            no its not.
            super high brightness is more or less the only lcd advantage.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, it is. Specular highlights ("micro-contrast") are the main reason to buy an OLED compared to modern miniLED. You're just bumping the thread with garbage because you're mentally disabled/a consoomer and want attention.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            ok you def misunderstood me.
            yes specular highlights are nice.
            but if you can live without them OLED will last much longer and still look better then any lcd

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >OLED will last much longer
            dude even powered off it's going to become cloudy and eventually die
            OLED isn't new tech, it's decades old, and the decades old ones are exclusively black now because they're fricking dead regardless of being powered
            they're just using it for tvs now because it's less expensive to manufacture and leads to subscription spending

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            If you can live without specular highlights, then that's even MORE reason to buy a miniLED because that's the technology's only major failing when you buy a decent model and not gamer trash. If you're not enabling HDR and utilizing it's strengths, going for OLED is a mostly wasted money these days. Why are you telling people to toss out the main thing that sells OLED? To improve lifespan. But then why buy OLED when you can get something cheaper that will still last even longer for a perfectly usable SDR picture? In the end, OLED today has a serious cost problem. They need to use non-organic compounds to massively increase lifespans, or the cost needs to plummet to reflect an average lifespan half the length of LCD. I'm done with companies trying to israelite everyone, they can choke on a fat turd.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >most people are really just using OLED wrong.
            OLED happens to be the only technology that can display "perfect" HDR that isn't outrageously expensive (like MicroLED) or outright experimental (like ELQD or, to some extents, the ill-fated Dual-Layer LCD), so naturally, a lot of people are going to be drawn to it for that reason. But even barring per-pixel high luminance range capabilities, the only other big draw is perfect blacks and high response times which, white very nice, might be a hard sell for many multiple times the price of a regular panel, particularly when these benefits can be partially mitigated with VA and TN panels for the budget-conscious.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >should
            tn: does not, can not

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        for me, it's the Samsung Neo G7 32''
        best of all worlds

        if something about OLED is a deal breaker for you, these are easily the best bang for buck

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I use this actually, 144hz 4k monitor https://www.benq.com/en-us/monitor/gaming/ex2710u.html

        I had a VA monitor and returned it cause it sucked.

        IPS isn't perfect but it's better than VA, OLED is the best

  55. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The blacks and contrast of VA for non gaming.
    The quick response times and minimum ghosting of IPS for gaming.
    OLED FTW.

  56. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    every monitor thread has 1 guy who says that he loves his oled and then the whole thread just devolves into people begging him not use his monitor with tears in their eyes. is it a jealousy thing?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >loves his oled and then the whole thread just devolves into people begging him not use his monitor with tears in their eyes. is it a jealousy thing?
      IPSgays refuse to let go of their dead panel technology that has been surpassed by OLED and VA. They treat it like being a sports fan where you just HAVE to support your team regardless of whether they win or lose.

      I got tricked by these frickers into getting an IPS monitor and only realized how atrocious the washed out flat IPS picture quality was until I got a VA monitor against the recommendations of many.

  57. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm going to get this one for 500 eurobux. Any objections?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Save your money.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I need a monitor right now, because my other one broke down. I need to order a monitor today.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Odyssey G3.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            What's with the dogshit naming scheme? The "G3" comes in different sizes, refresh rates, resolutions, and from what I've seen they're all fricking garbage.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Get a 1440p 240hz OLED for some bucks more. You'll still get ripped off, but at least the blacks will look good.

  58. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    people used to tell me the eye cant even see over 60hz theyre all on 144 or 240hz monitors now. as an early adopter what should i hop on now? i still peaked in 2008 for fps. was it really just due to CRTs?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Black Frame Insertion (BFI) or some form of strobing is the new tech that I'm starting to see being talked about more and more in enthusiast gaming circles. Apparently it's less bad than before and most manufacturers keep improving their specific solution, as it seems Benq is still at the top in esports stuff even with decades old TNs just because of dyac.
      Whenever I see monitor discussions among normies strobing is almost never brought up, so you'd definitely be ahead of the curve there.

  59. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    VA with top quality panel and QA
    Samsung odyssey G9 for example

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      There's a reason that monitor has received so many negative reviews from reviewers and regular customers, because it has dogshit quality control. Many issues plague that monitor. Aside from the issues, too many Samsung monitors are curved, that shit is unacceptable when it's not ultrawide.

  60. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Curved screens are a israeli trick and an anti-feature. In return fo....a tiny insignificant amount of desk space, you get a distorted image that can never be properly shown. Why in the actual frick do people buy these curved monstrosities?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      New good, old bad. Old good, new bad. Consumer prostitutes all the same. Living as if their belongings make them better people.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Get curved and sit further away it blows your ass off

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        "Yeah bro if you sit back further, the distorted image somehow becomes not distorted."

        I swear to God, someday documentation will leak of a company saying that curved monitors can entice customers to buy a new panel since they are so visually different they must be hot new tech AND that they will then purchase a new flat panel because they hate that all their pictures and videos are distorted.

  61. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Which way, IQfyentlemen?
    whatever comes in 4:3 format

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Huawei Mate
      CCP backdoorbeijingbotnet.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >backdoored
        >through a hdmi port
        we're reaching levels of westoid seethe i didn't think were possible

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This thing is kino. Shame it wasn't available in my region

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They don't have aliexpress in your region?

  62. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    High rr va if i had too for general use but high rr tn with bfi beats both

  63. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Used to have an IPS monitor, now I'm on a VA monitor
    To be honest I have no complaints with the IPS one (other than how it broke right after the warranty expired, frigging viewsonic), it's just that the VA monitor has so much better contrast, I can't believe I was missing out with the IPS

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >loves his oled and then the whole thread just devolves into people begging him not use his monitor with tears in their eyes. is it a jealousy thing?
      IPSgays refuse to let go of their dead panel technology that has been surpassed by OLED and VA. They treat it like being a sports fan where you just HAVE to support your team regardless of whether they win or lose.

      I got tricked by these frickers into getting an IPS monitor and only realized how atrocious the washed out flat IPS picture quality was until I got a VA monitor against the recommendations of many.

      All IPS gays must be taken to the back & summarily shot.

      VA monitors are unusable due to black smearing and ghosting. Stop defending this fricking garbage. Holy shit.

  64. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    All IPS gays must be taken to the back & summarily shot.

  65. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The MSI MAG274QRF-QD is good enough.

  66. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone have the Innocn 27G1S? It's from a Chinese brand and apparently it's a VA panel with barely any black smearing. It's 450 eurobux.

  67. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    used a ips monitor for 4 years and switched to a VA panel when this baby came out. Its great value for the price

    https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/aoc/q27g3xmn

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      what a coincidence. i ordered this monitor a couple days back because of the reviews. how is it? is the VRR flicker as bad as rtings says?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh yeah I turned adaptive sync off in the monitor settings because I was noticing some kind of flicker. Maybe I should experiment with it sometime soon.

        I don't have screen tearing so I forgot I had it off.

  68. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've seen people throw around 20K, 30K, and even higher zone counts at random, but the reality is that 8,000 zones with a 22 bit backlight with a WHVA panel will completely destroy OLED everywhere but starfields and similar extremely difficult and uncommon, high contrast content in a completely dark room.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      r/monitors.
      Head back.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No thanks, they probably promote TN and CRT. And OLED for text work and spreadsheets.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          What are your favourite fruits? Which ones do you like to eat the most?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            What are some games?

  69. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    TN or IPS for high competitive games?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Stop playing games where you think those could be necessary. You life will be much better.

  70. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    VGA 16:9 CRT.

  71. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I still use a 144hz 1080p TN panel I got in high school. At this point it's been like 7, maybe 8 or 9 years and it still works great. If I need to something where color and presentation accuracy matter a lot then I use my Hisense U6G television.

  72. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    this might be stupid but would it be a bad idea to use a polisher to very lightly grind away the matt finish on a screen to "convert" it to a glossy finish?
    i have an extra monitor i don't care about that i'm somewhat willing to sacrifice for science but i'm wondering if anyone's tried something dumb like this before. i have a random orbital sander but i'm not sure if i can get sandpaper with a high enough of a grit to not leave scratches, so i'll probably just have to use a polishing compound with a polishing pad right?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can just put a glossy screen protector over it instead. If the adhesive layer is half-decent it should completely cancel out the matte and act like a glossy protector. That's how it behaved on my old drawing tablet when I put some sample protectors on to try them out.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        i feel like that's just going to be worse somehow, not to mention the crapshoot of trying to buy a generic screen protector for a monitor that doesn't suck.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's what I thought too. But the matte finish comes from the surface of the protector, so if that surface roughness gets filled in by optical adhesive, it behaves like an extended medium. It's strange and perhaps a little counterintuitive, but it did happen with the glossy protector samples I put in the unworn corners of my tablet.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Though to answer your question properly, I suppose it could be worth a shot. I mentioned my drawing tablet having been worn down by years of drawing to the point where it's glossy smooth in the middle, so maybe it could work, though I claim no liability in any damage you cause.

  73. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Intrusion Prevention System >>> Voice Actor

  74. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i have a VA S3221QS from Dell.

    it was affordable. wanted an OLED but i'd rather have a curved 4K screen with good refresh rate than spend a couple thousand on an OLED that's better than 1080p (incoming accusations of being a poorgay).

    the screen i have is really nice and pretty. brightness, contrast, and black point suck ass but the color accuracy and wide angle of viewability are ideal for doing art, it's really good at distinguishing pure white from some really pale blue or yellow.

    was only $500, very happy with it. just wish it wasn't made by slavedriving communists.

  75. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    TN

  76. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My main screen is a VA flanked by IPS on both sides.
    Contrast, blacks and panel uniformity on my VA is so much better, the IPS have uneven lighting and I have a reading light above me so it's not even in an unlit room. They also look slightly washed out displaying the same YT video.
    My screens and TVs average 10yrs before they fail, my old Dells started having small bright spots after 11 yrs, my old BenQ TV in the living room delaminated and started bubbling due to Vinegar Syndrome after like nearly 14 years, the TV in my room is pushing 11 years.

    I just can't get onboard the OLEDs due to the 3 yrs or shorter life expectancy, hell when I have relatives over they just leave the TV on some channel with a logo in the corner, for my own monitors, the browser UI and shit would probably burn in, internet is full of posts about how their 2~3K monitor burned in under half an yr.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Interesting, hmm.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >VA flanked by IPS on both sides.
      Yeah this is key with VA, you have to make it your primary monitor. Viewing it from the side shows a washed out image, even those which advertise 'wide viewing angle' like some Philips VA monitors

  77. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Going to get my 360hz IPS today. Will report back.
    Also
    >amazon offers shit price (have prime)
    >order directly from Dell
    >estimated to arrive on Friday
    >actual delivery already today
    everything went better than expected. don't get Amazon prime.
    >amazon now offers same price as Dell

  78. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have 3 of these
    IPS

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >163ppi

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        if I used windows, sure

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's less bad with some guis than others, but should in no way be encouraged.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            its not a matter of gui, its how scaled resolutions are rendered in the first place. windows giving you 1 pixel perfect line next to another shit blurry one is a crap implementation and anything other than native resolution or 1/2 native is shit. No one else has this problem. They render the elements at the nearest common denominator of the native resolution and the scaled factor and then divide it, and then display it. Your blur is gone and you dont need to wait to devs to update their GUIs to work with the system. It has minimal overhead since UI elements cost nothing to render in the first place.

  79. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    For me it's IPS Black

  80. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    matte IPS is where it's at

  81. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >used curved monitor for 3 years straight
    >return to flat monitor
    >flat monitor looks curved
    are my eyes permanently fricked or what? Will it just take some time to get used to?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It should go away.
      I remember using flat screens after curved CRT and they looked concave to me. Took some months though.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm looking at my monitor right now and it literally looks like an old school CRT. Weird man, but thanks for the hope

  82. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    VA is cancer. i got one once and it had smearing

  83. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No cap, what is even the point of VA anymore? Even for TVs, it is totally outclassed by OLED.

    IPS is the standard for production and office. OLED is the standard for media consumption.
    VA is obsolete. It doesn't even have a niche like TN with DyAc.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I suppose VA + miniled is as good as it gets for media consumption if one doesn't want to deal with OLED burn in.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      OLED may have infinite contrast but in many cases VA's contrast is high enough, it's indistinguishable for your average consumer
      In fact there's this online craze of cheap portable monitors from chinese ODMs which are marketed as OLED, then they turn out to be VA panels in disguise

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >but in many cases VA's contrast is high enough
        So? You will also get worse response time, black smearing, scanlines, bad viewing angles, blooming(if FALD) and all the other problems associated with VA.

        There is absolutely no reason to ever buy VA when OLED exists. OLED is the perfect content consumption panel type.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Uhh okay sure Mr tv salesman, I'd gladly fork over a $1,000 on this OLED you're hawking here which fundamentally looks the same from a distance as a sub-$400 VA tv

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Thank you for admitting you're an idiot with no idea what you're talking about. Keep coping and trying to rationalize your purchase like the poor piece of garbage you are.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Keep coping and trying to rationalize your purchase
            Pot calling the kettle black?
            Or I guess since this is about OLED, it's one of those perfect pitch deep blacks

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >OLED may have infinite contrast
        It doesn't.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Brightness. In practice, there comes a point where a display can get black enough (especially in rooms that aren't pitch black) for basically all real content you would display on it, and then you would benefit a ton more with increased brightness capabilities. Even the newest OLEDs from this year still have to push heavy ABL after a couple minutes on a bright scene, like anything with natural sunlight, to keep the display from killing itself, and this ruins the dynamic range. With enough miniLED zones and fine enough backlight level control, a modern VA panel does things nothing else can outside of microLED because IPS and TN have terrible blooming control.

      Later, when 720p+ black and white microLED arrays can be used as backlighting, IPS will make more sense. But then VA would still have better tiny details due to its better native contrast ratio. Instead of trying to delete VA, better motion should a focus in a future variant of it. I remember when people were saying IPS could never reach 144Hz and that TN will always be the only option for gaming. Now, only the most obsessive and unlikable people still swear by TN. For all we know, VA could very well be 1 generation from being the same as IPS in actual use.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'd be willing to buy a 1440p display with a 288p LDA (~147k LDZ, 5x5 dimming zone) or even a 144p LDA (~36k LDZ, 10x10 dimming zone), especially if it doesn't have the burn-in risk that OLED has.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Even the newest OLEDs from this year still have to push heavy ABL after a couple minutes on a bright scene, like anything with natural sunlight, to keep the display from killing itself, and this ruins the dynamic range
        There are very few scenarios where ABL will interrupt a movie or TV show.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Games.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I am less familiar with games. I highly doubt the developers would make UI elements extremely bright in HDR mode. For ABL to kick in I would imagine a player would need to look at an in-game sun or light for a long time.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >UI
            ABL is for full screens, not small elements. A lot of games will spend a long time on bright daylight scenes. ABL is a common issue people have with OLED. Don't go to IQfy for this. People here are either poor, uneducated, or both. Look through forums and you'll see people have problems with this. OLED needs to to this to produce less heat and slow down pixel burn out.

  84. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    R8 my new monitor
    plz no bully, it was on sale and its my first curve wide monitor
    https://www.gigabyte.com/es/Monitor/G34WQC#kf

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      21 out of 9
      I'm guessing 1440p? Pretty sweet bro.

      I went a bit bigger to 38" and up in res to 3840x1600 so my widescreen movies are pixel perfect. I cannot deal with the neck strain of a full 4K TV up close.

  85. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    TN

  86. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dumb question probably, but how would the DSP chip supposedly in BenQ's Mobiuz line fare against what's already on my motherboard? If I routed the sound from the monitor out to external speakers, would that provide higher quality sound than just connecting directly to the mobo? I am not an audiophile. just curious.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you were directly connecting a headphone to the monitor it may sound different since it'll just be using your graphics card's sound driver, like if you have Intel graphics it'll show as Intel HDMI display sound. It's very basic with none of the special effects on Realtek audio
      But if you were connecting speakers, those are powered on their own so they will likely still retain the full sound regardless if they were to the motherboard or your display

      Thank you for admitting you're an idiot with no idea what you're talking about. Keep coping and trying to rationalize your purchase like the poor piece of garbage you are.

      Whatever dude, you didn't say anything that would justify OLED's asking price over VA, much less a slam dunk you consider it to be to make the latter irrelevant

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Whatever dude, you didn't say anything that would justify OLED's asking price over VA, much less a slam dunk you consider it to be to make the latter irrelevant
        No you're just an illiterate moron who cannot read.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          If all those OLED features are worth it for you then please, be my guest. But claiming VA has no place when it has OLED's main benefit which is high contrast for a fraction of the price, then that's just disingenious on your part

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >But claiming VA has no place when it has OLED's main benefit
            Thank you for once again confirming the fact that you are a complete idiot.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >But claiming VA has no place when it has OLED's main benefit which is high contrast for a fraction of the price, then that's just disingenious on your part
            kek

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Ever heard the concept of good enough? If you watch the rest of the comparisons, you'll see the VA panel is much closer in contrast when viewed side by side to the OLED than the IPS one

  87. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    IPS all day,
    don't tell me oled unless they have made a 38" 24:10 3840x1600 version already

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Protip: You can't read either of them when you scroll like that and newer competently made displays with VA panels don't dim like that when you scroll.
      You're like an old retired man who becomes confused and angry when he learns the job he used to do is now performed differently and much better. In reality, you're angry because you're embarrassed that you didn't know any better. Swallow your pride.
      A V8 from 1987 is not a V8 from 2017, but they're still both a V8. Does this mean they perform the same? No.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I still choose IPS.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          OK. My monitor is also IPS. It's hard to find a good VA monitor and I prefer SDR on low brightness for text so contrast doesn't matter too much when I'm typing out all the creative ways Janny could jump off a bridge. The easiest one is curved and people get too many lemons anyway.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        OK. My monitor is also IPS. It's hard to find a good VA monitor and I prefer SDR on low brightness for text so contrast doesn't matter too much when I'm typing out all the creative ways Janny could jump off a bridge. The easiest one is curved and people get too many lemons anyway.

        If you're not doing any work or other tasks that require you to read and type a lot of tasks, the drawbacks of VA might not seem that significant, but if you play video games, VA is complete and utter garbage. 99% of VA panels are too slow, resulting in awful black smearing. There are very few VA monitors like this one,

        Anyone have the Innocn 27G1S? It's from a Chinese brand and apparently it's a VA panel with barely any black smearing. It's 450 eurobux.

        , that have no black smearing.

  88. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    don't care.

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