why can't big publishers making online only, games as a service (scam) games fix their games against cheaters?

why can't big publishers making online only, games as a service (scam) games fix their games against cheaters?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    IQfy - Technology

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you write code to fix your game dumbass

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      *picks her up, sits on my lap, and reads "Windows 7 for Dummies" with her

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        She would be squirming on your lap, she HATES her older sister Nanachi.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Then I will let her down so she can run around outside taking pictures of people through their windows

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She would be squirming on your lap, she HATES her older sister Nanachi.

      *picks her up, sits on my lap, and reads "Windows 7 for Dummies" with her

      you guys do this ironically right?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The larp posts? Yes. Being aroused by her S-tier dicky? 100% serious.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >dicky
          explain this terminology

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Cute+funny= dicky
            dicky can refer to e-girls in general but it's also a slang term for pussy.
            dicky is often used as a term for a e-girl's pussy.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Valve has already talked about this. Banning cheaters is "treadmill work" - Valve bans the cheaters, the cheaters evolve and rework the cheats, Valve bans the cheaters again, the cheaters evolve and rework the cheats again, etc.
          Valve wants to solve this the "smart" way. Unfortunately, such a solution just doesn't exist, and they don't want to do the treadmill work either, therefore they do nothing, and will continue to do nothing because there's nothing for them to do. Just about the only thing Valve can do at this point is use their resources to hire a third-party developer and offload the treadmill work onto them - clearly just a bandaid and who knows that'd actually last.
          And no, rootkits are not the solution either. The games that run that shit have cheater problems as well.

          What people should be focusing on here is grilling Valve on whether their next game will have any of actually-useful anti-cheat. Because if it doesn't, then why should anyone play it? TF2 has a cheater problem, CS2 has a cheater problem, DotA2 has a cheater problem, L4D2 is getting its server DDoSd, it's a fricking mess and they want to make ANOTHER long-term support multiplayer game?

          Absolute CHAD. If Microdick replaced Cortana with 11-chan, I'd use W11.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I do this completely sincerely because I want to raise a beautiful girl like her

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      *picks her up, sits on my lap, and reads "Windows 7 for Dummies" with her

      She would be squirming on your lap, she HATES her older sister Nanachi.

      doesnt that feel food?

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why would they? Once you paid $60 for the game it's exclusively your problem. Some zombie survival game released by chinks shut down the servers less than 48 hours after release, and it was totally legal and they never got punished.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wasn't that a polnish company?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Whatever they were they weren't human.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The game is free to play though? The only thing you can buy are cosmetics like in Counter-Strike and you can sell them on the steam market.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      tf2 uses vac, source, and webkit. these exploits in tf2 transfer to other valve games and even steam. if they're not fixed or addressed then you end up like sony getting hacked.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >webkit
        No it doesn't.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          my bad they used to use webkit but not anymore. but it still remains that valve should be ontop of any exploits. currently bots are exploiting the hell out of vac and source.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >valve should be ontop of any exploits
            TF2 came out 17 years ago for like $15 ($40 box that came with 3 games) and has been free for 13 years. The fact that you can still play this game at all is already a marked improvement from other devs who shut down the servers sometimes as soon as 5 years after launch. At some point there's no longer any obligation for a dev to support their product. Microsoft stopped patching vulnerabilities in Windows 7 (which came out after TF2) years ago. You can still launch TF2, and you can still make your own server where you manually ban bots and Valve will display your server to everyone who launches the game. That's more support than 99% of devs.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >currently bots are exploiting the hell out of vac and source.
            changing your viewangles is exloiting vac and source KYS ASAP moron

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What game was that?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Day Before

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Valve had to delist the game and offer everyone refunds regardless of payment method. There was legal responsibility involved.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Oh.
            Maybe anon was thinking of a different game

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    #KillTF2
    #DeathToTF2
    #SupportTF2BotHosters
    #TF2MostOverratedGame

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >#TF2MostOverratedGame
      >tf2 reviews on steam are mostly negative
      what did he mean by this

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Only recent reviews, overall reviews are still positive

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what's the purpose of bots in tf2?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      disrupt gameplay on purpose in order to sell "anti disruption services".

      MMO bots do this shit as well but not as upfront. for example ruining the economy and then selling you gold for money like in WoW, RS, etc.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >anti disruption services
        who buys these services if the owners of the servers don't give a frick?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          anyone stupid or desperate enough. thats the point. half of the time its not even a legit service. its just stealing your payment/personal info. again, valve should be ontop of this shit. if not for the cheats/exploits then for the scams thats literally costing people money and data on their service. valve already shown in the past when you involve money they step in. like the steam market bots.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >load up your game with microtransactions
    >act surprised when people game the system

    Anyone who has ever paid real cash money for in game purchases needs to be culled.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The people causing actual grief don't do it for money, but rather for attention and because they're mentally ill. Idle bots are the ones who do not interact with the playerbase at all and sit in their own private servers farming items. The worse they do is make the economy worse (who gives a shit) and inflate player numbers on the steam charts. They're two separate problems, one far worse than the other.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      people arent really gaming the system. they're just being buttholes and doing RMT on top. both are against valves tos but they dont care. so this is the message.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly people that have bought hats and other things from the TF2 store in the past 4 years need to start a class action lawsuit against Valve. They knowingly are selling a flawed product that people can’t use. I’m willing to bet this can be considered some type of fraud.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Doubt this will happen, TF2 players never leave their basement

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sad but true

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Except when they have furry conventions or hit up gay bars

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://github.com/RosneBurgerworks
    #KillTF2 #DeathToTF2 #SupportTF2BotHosters #TF2MostOverratedGame

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      (valve's) MOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    all what valve has to do is to remove matchmaking and improve the server browser. bot problem solved.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      how do you solve the bot problem through the server browser?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        community servers don't have bots
        >they can still join
        bots can be removed much easier when server admins give a shit. (and anti-bot plugins can be developed)

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          community servers do have bots and they still join. you're just pushing the fix to the audience rather than valve.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You actually don't even need to improve the server browser. It's fine as it is, if anything quickplay just needs to make a comeback.

      how do you solve the bot problem through the server browser?

      The bots are a direct result of matchmaking and have plagued the game since day one of it's inclusion. If you removed matchmaking, people would be incentivized to use the server browser again and usher in a new age of community servers.
      >community made anti-cheats on these servers would automatically detect and kick bots (like they already do)
      >there would eventually be more branches of these anti-cheats to combat the bots trying to bypass them (even if they did)
      >any bots that eventually DO make it past would just be perma-banned by human admins
      >even if official servers stayed and bots decided to join those, you can look at who's in a server before even joining it and just not join the servers infested with bots
      >The party system also makes it easier for bots to group up and take over lobbies en-mass. Removing that system would be yet another blight to their cause
      And Valve would never ever have to touch VAC again. The community itself would handle the bot problem if they simply had the tools, but matchmaking prevents them from doing so. And that's not to mention all the other negatives Casual brings to the game.
      If you really want to save tf2, you #removeMatchmaking and #reviveCasual

      community servers do have bots and they still join. you're just pushing the fix to the audience rather than valve.

      Even then, the community is far more dedicated to the game than Valve is. VAC is outdated unsecure dogshit and it would not be in their interest to continuously update an anti-cheat for a 17 year old game running on a 2 decade engine they don't even support anymore. Would it be nice? Sure, but like I said removing the matchmaking system entirely would solve far more problems than just the bots.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i bounced off of tf2 a few years ago the first time i tried it because of the server thing. the bots really aren't that bad, you just hop around a bit until you find a clean server.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Really? No one noticed the petition was botted?

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