Why did America fumble its chance at world domination?

Their unipolar moment ended in less than two decades

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    America is the brain of the world.

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Same reason Britain did, world domination is overrated, it just leads to shitskins hating you forever while you have he burden of wasting time and resources manintaining shitholes that are a net drain on your economy and are consonly on the verge of collapse and/or revolution.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      British domination lasted 130 years.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Usually the length of dominance over the world reserve is between 70-90 years, since Portugal's dominance over international trade back in the 15th century. Britain had it for around 115, well above average, the US has had it for 77 now. As for unipolarity, no one really had that on a global scale, at least not to the degree that the US did.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Naah, and I'm British myself. Britain was never a unipolar power like the US, the British Army was always kinda small and not designed for European land wars, our power relied on the Navy abroad and smart diplomacy in Europe.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Britain at its absolute zenith would have gotten its shit pushed in if the other great powers ganged up to beat its ass, even the British themselves never would have claimed otherwise. The United States in the 1990s was utterly peerless and could legitimately have taken on the entire world in a defensive war, assuming no nukes were involved since everyone would fricking die then. It's legitimately insane how powerful the US was in the 90s. The USSR was dead and Russia was a convulsing mess, Western Europe was firmly under its boot and outside of France had basically signed away its military to the US anyway, its only economic rival of Japan was fully stagnant, China was basically irrelevant, and nobody else even remotely mattered. Its economy made up over a third of the global total and was growing at an average rate of 4% a year, its standard of living was still extremely high, technologically it was leading the planet in computer innovation with practically no real outside competitors, I could go on. There's legitimately never been a state in the history of the world with so much unmatched and unequal power, the 90s US was a totally different beast.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          god don't remind me, how did we drop the ball so fricking hard?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Lots of ways but 9/11 legitimately fricked up the American psyche in a way that it was never able to really recover from and everything just spun out of control from there. Seriously you guys went fricking insane after that event, it's like you went from the world's chill big brother that sometimes had to slap someone for acting stupid to being the abusive brother that comes home drunk and starts kicking the shit out of you at 3 AM.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            You have to understand that we hadn't been attacked on our own soil since like, the 19th century. It harmed America's own view of being untouchable and made everyone nervous and afraid for half a decade. While the Middle East stuff was about revenge, people were also desperate to feel safe again. We didn't know how to handle it.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Oh yeah I get it, especially since you guys seemed so invincible in the 90s. It was like a big celebration that you won the Cold War and kicking the decade off by pushing Iraq's shit in harder than even the most pro-American military analysts thought was wild. You were all in a big euphoria and then you got glassed in the fricking face. Still doesn't mean that you guys didn't go fricking insane after that though, it's understandable trauma but the reaction was still what pushed you into your current situation. I sometimes wonder if those projections about America being a debt-free country in the late 00s wouldn't have actually happened if there wasn't a 9/11.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Whether or not there was a 9/11, we would have ended up in Iraq regardless. Plans were made by 1998 and frankly if not for Kosovo we'd have probably invaded Iraq again under Clinton. I don't think the good times were going to last forever, but 9/11 definitely kicked things off and made America way more paranoid.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Saddam had to die. Despite being an enemy of Iran, America considered him a more despicable shitbag than anyone in Iran. He had acted too ruthlessly for too long against too many people. Bush Sr sparing Saddam turned out to be a fatal mistake after the Gulf War. Saddam's insanity and grip on the country would only intensify. The embargos were starving the people but he was getting richer.

            America's invasion of Iraq was a case of humanitarianism and nobody, least of all the *rabs, thanked US for it.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            America did the world a favor ridding us of Saddam. One of the most vile dogs to ever walk this planet. America did the world a favor, sacrificing thousands of their own, and no one thanked them for it.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            America fricking around in the Middle East set the stage for ISIS.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Right. It's never your fault. It's always the big bad anglosphere that's responsible
            Even when you do something objectively bad, it's because of your "bad childhood" forcing you to do it.
            There's always an escape from responsibility.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Right. It's never your fault.
            straw man+no argument

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            If America never invaded Iraq, it wouldn't have been a breeding ground for terrorists.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            It literally would have been better for both Americans and Iraqis if they didn't get involved

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Pleb tier view of American foreign policy lmao. The US was never a "chill brother" the frick? We dropped more bombs on Cambodia than we did on Japan in WW2.
            For some reason, Euros only seriously freaked out about American aggression in 2003 over Iraq, but from a "anyone else" perspective nothing changed

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Britain was never more than a primus inter pares. It was safe with its navy but its land forces never were enough to sustain any effective hegemony. Germany buck breaking France foreshadowed WW1 and when Britain was forced to fight on land and again it quickly ran out of gas.

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because without having the eternal commie as an enemy to oppose at every turn, there was nothing to hold back the government from selling itself off to big business. While lashing out the way it did was understandable after 9/11, America overdid it invading Iraq under phony pretenses and got itself trapped in not one, but two Middle Eastern quagmires. The country ended up weakening itself and burnt through a lot of good will throwing its weight around, and the world didn't need protection from the Soviets anymore.

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It would need to hold tgat kind of power by creating a very influential global military force that would be a combination of the CIA, Navy SEALs, NSA, and have the funds of Walmart.
    And trust me, having the american version of the janissaries would not mean your life as a middle class burger would be any better.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >american version of the janissaries
      It is interesting that the top talent (as in the kids of upper middle class/elites, ivy league graduates and etc) are earmarked for finance, law, and medicine (and now increasingly tech) Imagine if instead of SATs, college essays, and niche varsity sports with a high entry cost to filter out the poors, a significant chunk instead trained fitness, martial skills, military strategy, and actually became some sort of american Janissary class. Currently basically no ivy league grad would choose being a CIA operative over working on wall street or in big law, but imagine if being in the CIA SEALs Janissary role actually paid you like 500k+ or had some other extreme prestige

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        What do mean? That's exactly what the make up of the OSS/early CIA was, Yale/Stanford boys

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Currently basically no ivy league grad would choose being a CIA operative
        The CIA and State Department are filled to the brim with them.
        Lots of privileged upper class kids don't have to worry about money to begin with, so they don't actually stress about working on Wall Street or whatever, they can afford the luxury of dreaming about grand geopolitical strategy and such (which has always been an "elite" field).
        Should note that it's not just Ivy League kids but also those from places like the University of Virginia, Vanderbilt, Emory, etc.

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The U.S. still seems like its turn at the Xbox controller is continuing and its demise is overstated, but I don't think "world domination" was really the point.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      America doesn't want to dominate the world.
      It wants multipolarity. Things like, shitty African failed states exiting their failed status makes the liberal rules based order man feel warm and fuzzy.
      It wants to make the dream of ActRaiser a reality

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    More precisely, the U.S. doesn't have territorial designs on other countries. It's powerful and has a big military and has these bases everywhere, but what the unipolar moment really meant was that the U.S. was so strong that everyone else went to the U.S. as an arbiter when trying to deal with disputes among each other. They say world police but it's more like being the planetary tard wrangler. It's Metternich's dream.

    That was true in the Middle East starting in the 1970s. That's no longer really the case anymore but that was Kissinger's main success next to China, it was muscling the Soviets out of the Middle East and the U.S. taking over the job.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      America is still the world's tard wrangler. Without them, Middle East would be a nuclear wasteland by now.

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    There's nothing the US could have done about it short of bombing China and waging a genocidal war to reduce its population of 1.5 billion people.
    Anyway, the US is arguably still the only world superpower capable of projecting massive military power worldwide, China is still in the process of reforming their armed forces as we speak and they don't judge their own capabilities to be at that level yet.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >China is still in the process of reforming their armed forces as we speak
      China is a shithole that develops no new technology on their own.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >"The Soviet Union is a shithole and it will collapse like a house of cards bro. Look they couldn't even beat Finland lmao"
        >"Amelicans are all merchants with no warrioru spiritu, unlike us Yamato Daishi Samurai Honorrubu Japanese, all amelicans do is be fat and drive Ford!"
        And other classic mistakes in history.

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Why did America fumble its chance at world domination
    America is the most powerful country in the world...

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Unipolarity was doomed by the mid 90s, neoliberalism was its downfall. Jimmy Carter was the last president of before we became Ziomerica

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The decline of US world domination started in Vietnam. The more money the americans waste on useless wars around the globe, the more their internal politics and domestic ecnomy decline. You simply cannot conquer the world if the situation at home goes worse day by day.

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wrong. It's only just beginning.
    These moronic mal-formed authoritarian states making us their enemy makes our ultimate goal so easy it's almost pathetic

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >ultimate-goal
      And what would that be

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        A world order where there are no outlaws or pariah states. Everyone follows the rules.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          "Rules based order" is essentially what we had a decade ago with the exception of a few states. The U.S. is still clinging to this logic as everyone is not giving a frick, how does this make it easier exactly? Is the U.S. going go to war with every state that doesn't follow their rules, is that sustainable. Most strong countries find multipolarity more beneficial for their interest than towing the line. Are you gonna have the u.s invade turkey for not being pro NATO enough, what's the actual incentive.

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