Why did Filibusters stop? what is preventing someone else like Walker emerging in this age?

Why did Filibusters stop? what is preventing someone else like Walker emerging in this age?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Why did Filibusters stop?
    The american civil war
    >what is preventing someone else like Walker emerging in this age?
    International law, modern militaries and the U.S

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Would they care enough if it happened somewhere like Africa?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Probably not, but the African Union sure would.
        And you'd probably get fricked trying to raise the army/funds for the expedition. Even in the 1800s these campaigns were looked down upon by the U.S. And they usually had to be public as frick becaause they were crowdfunded/volunteer based. I don't believe you could pull off a filibuster today unless you were some sort of PMC guy or ex-military at least.
        Last time I recall a PMC was used to overthrow a government was Rxecutive Outcomes in the 90s and that was dead on arrival.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        More than anything, the U.S/West would be getting on the way as you try to launch the project. Because citizens can't go around attacking random countries for loot and plunder! That might start a war.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          What a gay world we live in.

          Probably not, but the African Union sure would.
          And you'd probably get fricked trying to raise the army/funds for the expedition. Even in the 1800s these campaigns were looked down upon by the U.S. And they usually had to be public as frick becaause they were crowdfunded/volunteer based. I don't believe you could pull off a filibuster today unless you were some sort of PMC guy or ex-military at least.
          Last time I recall a PMC was used to overthrow a government was Rxecutive Outcomes in the 90s and that was dead on arrival.

          It is true that financing the expedition could be and was a big problem, don't militias form in the US? I know most of them are just larps but the organizing could still start under the guise of that.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            militias are pretty much just a local thing so them trying anything beyond their state would already raise eyebrowes, and them trying to move their equirpment out of the country would certainly result in the feds cracking down on them hard

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Hm, then it could get organised outside the country maybe, making a stop somewhere like Mexico once the capital is gathered.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >It is true that financing the expedition could be and was a big problem, don't militias form in the US?
            They do, but milities don't have the express objective of invading another country,m which is much more expensive than just having a militia. Especially if the country isn't Mexico or Canada. You need resources, transport, munitions. But yes, I guess you could start organizing from a militia.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No yeah obviously, but the idea was to not ruffle too many feathers by starting with the public declaration that you intend to invade some other country.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Probably not, but the African Union sure would.
      And you'd probably get fricked trying to raise the army/funds for the expedition. Even in the 1800s these campaigns were looked down upon by the U.S. And they usually had to be public as frick becaause they were crowdfunded/volunteer based. I don't believe you could pull off a filibuster today unless you were some sort of PMC guy or ex-military at least.
      Last time I recall a PMC was used to overthrow a government was Rxecutive Outcomes in the 90s and that was dead on arrival.

      wait a minute aren't we presently unable to stop a couple of pirates in rubber rafts and they're blocking an entire international shipping lane?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I think the present or near future would be a good time for something akin to filibusters to return, US resources are somewhat stretched to care much about something happening in the periphery nations.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, but pirates and filibusters are very different things. Filibusters explicitly wish to hold and conquer territory, you can't do that if the U.N comes to whoop your ass.

        [...]
        you guys are missing the point. fiibuster expeditions weren't just a couple of lone nuts, they were bankrolled by the Southern states, in short a major section of the country was behind them. the first time William Walker got arrested and tried for filibustering in Federal court in San Francisco, a friendly jury instantly acquitted him. The Buchanan Administration didn't like this stuff but it had some big money and elite circles behind it.

        Modern filibusters do not have this privilege.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Thats exactly what he was pointing out though, as for the first thing though, I can't imagine anyone would lift a finger if there was yet another coup in one of the countless African shitholes.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The nignogs would. They have their own little unified military now.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The african union has a single army? damn, guess that does throw a wrench into the plan.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Probably not, but the African Union sure would.
      And you'd probably get fricked trying to raise the army/funds for the expedition. Even in the 1800s these campaigns were looked down upon by the U.S. And they usually had to be public as frick becaause they were crowdfunded/volunteer based. I don't believe you could pull off a filibuster today unless you were some sort of PMC guy or ex-military at least.
      Last time I recall a PMC was used to overthrow a government was Rxecutive Outcomes in the 90s and that was dead on arrival.

      you guys are missing the point. fiibuster expeditions weren't just a couple of lone nuts, they were bankrolled by the Southern states, in short a major section of the country was behind them. the first time William Walker got arrested and tried for filibustering in Federal court in San Francisco, a friendly jury instantly acquitted him. The Buchanan Administration didn't like this stuff but it had some big money and elite circles behind it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >A filibuster expedition to seize Cuba set out from New Orleans in August 1851. A group of 400 Americans and Cuban emigres landed on the island but were quickly captured by Spanish authorities and shot; the dead included the sons of some of the South's most elite families. An angry mob sacked the Spanish consulate in New Orleans in revenge.[3]

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You win some you lose some.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because there was a huge American west to exploit. And that could not be tapped into unless the issue of slavery was dealt wtih. Filibustering had an huge tinge of slavery as its core motivation, william walker wanted to creat more slave states in the south, this is already a contentious issue along with getting involved in the affair of other nations.

    Filibustering is just another form of colonialism and empire expanding, something which Americans are genneraly not on board with. The Spanish American war opened up huge debates about whether being an empire contradicts their libertine and freedom loving nature, as well as opening the idea of citizen ship to non whites.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There were things similar to filibusters done outside of the western hemisphere however, one even in China during the Taiping rebellion.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They've stopped? I thought it was still common practice in the US.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      CIA coups are boring and lame, a band of men setting off to bumfrickistan to conquer and plunder will always be cooler than glowies in an office throwing money at morons.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I'll take interventionism for 500 Alex

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Less Wilsonian more Atila the Hun.

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