Why did Protestantism never establish a cultural presence like Catholicism?

Why did Protestantism never establish a cultural presence like Catholicism? Even atheists will praise Catholicism for its high degree of culture, architecture, and contributions to society, and you can see the strong influence of Catholicism in things such as Warhammer 40k, Game of Thrones, and Trench Crusade which are heavily inspired by it.

Meanwhile Protestantism is just this stuffy boring religion of men in suits preaching at people and annoying them.

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because Catholicism is, despite what any tradlarper will tell you, still pretty polytheistic, whereas Protestantism went full monotheism like Salafism did as well. That's why the Gulf region will probably develop the exact same corporate culture that America and Western Europe have

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah this, Catholic European countries fostered the best culture because they were the least scripture based. Protestants went hard with the "muh sacred book" narrative like Muslims and decided to base their entire way of living and narratives around old israeli fairy tales and purge everything else.
      A culture that consciously tries to remove elements that don't line up perfectly with its dogma is doomed to suffer from blandness.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Germans hate fun

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    White Protestants? Sure.

    Black Protestants however should be recognized for their contributions to American music via Blacc Gospel choirs.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because protestants detested how much influence the Church had on society and politics, so they went the opposite direction and made sure protestantism would be a personal faith at most

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What are you talking about? Protestantism gave us the entire modern world, including liberal democracy, the abolition of slavery, religious freedom, and modern science. Catholicism would still be a socially irrelevant, backwards, reactionary religion if not for the Protestantizing reforms of Vatican II.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Except there’s nothing explicitly religious about those things. Sure, a Protestant is far more likely to advocate for democracy and separation of church and state than a Catholic, but there’s nothing inherently Protestant about those two things, you can be an atheist and still want both of those things.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just like there's nothing explicitly religious about how ebin the Tau look llike. There's nothing inherently catholic about being good at art, you can be an atheist and still be good at it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're just demonstrating your historical ignorance, protestantism was a huge part in the progressivism of the latter half of the last milennium. America has deep roots in protestant values. You think there is "nothing explicitly religious" about these things because they've become so ingrained in our culture that they've become secular.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Even supposing that’s true, that just makes Protestantism look even worse. Instead of soulful monarchist cathedrals and holy orders, Protestantism gets soulless bland capitalism and liberalism.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Then you're a disingenous frick who moves goal posts.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Storing wealth in useless temples made to workship a rabbi on a stick its better than spread It thanks to economy among as much people as possible to improve their quality of life

            This is your mind on Roman Papism

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What virtue is there in people having wealth? God command us to be poor.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Instead, the money is used on grey drab apartments that charge 3000 a month to live in.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >and you can see the strong influence of Catholicism in things such as Warhammer 40k, Game of Thrones, and Trench Crusade which are heavily inspired by it.
    kek, e-caths really be pretending like the catholic church is still crusaders killing muzzies with sabaton playing in the background and not just a dying church led by elderly closet-cases playing dress up

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >things such as Warhammer 40k, Game of Thrones, and Trench Crusade
    All those things are satire of Catholicism.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ‘Satire’ is just supporting something while pretending to be ironic.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >If you mock me, I win!

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If you portray something as cool and badass you’re not really mocking it

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I portray something as cool and badass to get your attention to the rotting, corrupt, evil piece of shit that is the something.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nobody is going to care about corruption or evil if it’s cool and badass.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Okay.
        (Okay actually means you are wrong.)

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >satire is when something is portrayed with nuance rather than infallable reverence

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >OP has never heard of the Protestant work ethic
    You probably live in a place with a culture so embedded with Protestantism that you fail to recognize it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If Protestant work ethic was a real thing, then where are their great works? Where are their Cathedrals that require 800 consecutive years to build?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >me look building me praise it the pope is so smart

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If Catholic Cathedrals count (and Protestants also have built some very good churches) then shit like Newton's laws of motion and pic related count as well.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The same work ethic that forces people to do everything inefficiently because "it's the rules". The same work ethic that wants you to do things twice as hard instead of doing them smart.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Protestants lack real hierarchy for the most part. The closest they ever get is the Anglican Church, because they're literally just Catholics that have the King as the head of the church, rather than a Pope.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The perception that Protestantism lacks the cultural richness and influence of Catholicism can be attributed to several factors, including historical context, theological focus, and aesthetic choices. Here are some key points to consider:

    1. Historical and Institutional Context:
    • Catholicism’s Long History: Catholicism, with its roots going back to the early Christian church, has had centuries to develop its traditions, art, architecture, and cultural influence. The Catholic Church was the dominant religious and cultural institution in Europe for over a thousand years before the Protestant Reformation.
    • Protestant Reformation: The Protestant Reformation in the 16th century was, in many ways, a reaction against the perceived excesses and corruptions of the Catholic Church. This led to a simplification of religious practices and a rejection of certain forms of artistic expression associated with Catholicism.

    2. Theological Focus:
    • Simplicity and Directness: Protestant theology often emphasizes a direct relationship between the individual and God, without the need for elaborate rituals, intermediaries, or ornate churches. This can lead to simpler, more austere worship spaces and practices.
    • Iconoclasm: During and after the Reformation, many Protestant movements engaged in iconoclasm, destroying religious images, statues, and other forms of church art that were seen as idolatrous. This further distanced Protestant spaces from the rich visual and architectural heritage of Catholicism.
    3. Aesthetic Choices:
    • Architecture and Art: Catholicism’s grand cathedrals, churches, and art were often created with the intention of inspiring awe and demonstrating the glory of God. The elaborate Baroque and Gothic styles are prime examples. In contrast, Protestant churches are often plainer and more functional, reflecting their theological emphasis on simplicity and direct worship.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      (cont.)
      • Cultural Patronage: The Catholic Church has historically been a major patron of the arts, commissioning works from some of the greatest artists, musicians, and architects. This patronage has left a lasting legacy of cultural artifacts that are still celebrated today.
      4. Cultural Influence and Media:
      • Popular Culture: Catholicism’s rich visual and ceremonial traditions provide a wealth of material for storytelling and world-building in literature, film, and other media. This makes it a compelling source of inspiration for creators of fantasy and science fiction, such as Warhammer 40k and Game of Thrones.
      • Protestant Representation: Protestantism’s more subdued aesthetic and focus on personal piety may not translate as readily into the dramatic and visually striking elements favored in popular media. However, Protestant themes of individualism, moral integrity, and social justice are often explored in literature and film, albeit in less overtly “cultural” forms.
      5. Regional and Denominational Differences:
      • Variety within Protestantism: Protestantism is not a monolith; it includes a wide range of denominations with diverse practices and cultural expressions. For example, Anglicanism, especially in its High Church form, retains many of the ritualistic and aesthetic elements that are reminiscent of Catholicism.
      • Cultural Contributions: While Catholicism might have a more visible legacy in terms of architecture and art, Protestant regions and communities have also made significant cultural contributions, particularly in literature, music (e.g., the hymns of Bach), education, and social reforms.

      In summary, the differences in cultural presence and influence between Catholicism and Protestantism stem from historical developments, theological differences, aesthetic choices, and the varied ways in which each tradition has interacted with and influenced broader society.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    *hides AI generated slop*
    ahhh much better

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I’d rather have a conversation with AI then a libtard.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >soulful monarchist cathedrals

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Post Vatican II schlock, doesn't count

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >this is the cathedral it replaced
        WE HAVE TO GO BACK

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          that really only looks slightly better
          i miss when churches were relatively small and humble, but used the money they saved by not being bigger than necessary on making it very ornate instead

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >that really only looks slightly better

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Are you a sedevacantist?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, Im a traditionalist

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If Vatican II is the one world religion of the antichrist, it makes sense though that there is no Roman hierarchy right now with ordinary jurisdiction, otherwise someone could validly excommunicate you for defying Vatican II.

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