Why didn't they just eat fish instead of starving? Are they stupid?

Why didn't they just eat fish instead of starving? Are they stupid?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Radiochan

    same reason why they didn't work
    the mick would rather get drunk and beat his wife than do anything

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They didn’t have the infrastructure in place to fish. That’s a big part of it. To fish, you need boats, nets, know-how, etc. Those things were not as developed in Ireland because it was poor. When the famine hit, they couldn’t sustain the population by just fishing because there wasn’t the ability. A bunch of poor people starving in the mud can’t just snap fishing vessels into existence. It was simply too small to be of any help in the short term.
    Another part of it is that certain towns that had a moderately developed fishing industry was exclusive. The fishermen refused to let anyone fish in their areas and kept people who might have been able to invest into fishing (or people taking small rowboats out there) from doing it. Sometimes the fishermen violently did so.
    Many also put their hopes in the government feeding them. And it very well could have, but one Cornish c**t named Trevelyan ruined it and refused. Every other British official on the ground begged for more aid constantly, but Trevelyan miscalculated so that he couldn’t get enough food (it was bought up by the rest of Europe which was also experiencing famine conditions) and then just thought it was a bad idea to handout food anyway because he was a dumbass.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Everything you just said was wrong

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Feel free to explain why. But everything I said, I got from this book.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Those things were not as developed in Ireland because it was poor
      It was in the middle ages. Many Irish fishing families moved to Norway. Skill issue.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      God damn yr dumb dude

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I got everything I said from this book

        https://i.imgur.com/WVNJFnt.jpeg

        Feel free to explain why. But everything I said, I got from this book.

        Explain why I’m dumb. What part of what I said is dumb?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          God damn yr dumb dude

          >the British did everything they could to starve as many Irish people as possible
          (X) Doubt

          The OP is a shitposter, of the same ilk who posts "why didn't Africans have empires?" He just wants to make a "duhh Irish are dumb Black folk guys, unlike me I am so smart, I would have lived because fishing, no one ever thought of that gotcha potatoBlack folk!" thread.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Then don’t enter the thread. You know that you can even hide threads, right?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Don't enter the board Black person, go back

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Curious how back in the stone age people could fish without "fishing infrastructure" but these days you can't get anything done without it!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Okay, go out right now and try fishing and catch enough to feed multiple families. It’s the modern day so it should be piss easy compared to the Stone Age. But tell me how much shit you have to buy and how successful you are in the meanwhile.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    why didn't Angland have to be ruled by frogs to finally stabilize, were they stupid?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      England was united by the 900s?

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Highly original thread op. Very funny. Well done.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ireland was almost entirely deforested to build the Royal Navy. That same Royal Navy was then used to blow any Irish fishing vessel out of the water if it left the coast. The Irish tried to survive by making relatively primitive vessels that were wholly unsuited to the open sea, but brave and desperate men continued to try and fish in these deadly contraptions, especially on the West coast. The Famine was not a famine at all, it was a crop blight that was taken advantage of to commit genocide against the Irish people and stomp out any chance of resistance or revolution. This isn't even Irish cope, it's a historical fact corroborated by both Irish and British records

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Ireland was almost entirely deforested to build the Royal Navy.
      Why didn't the Irish replant trees?

      >That same Royal Navy was then used to blow any Irish fishing vessel out of the water if it left the coast.
      Sounds like absolute bullshit.

      The Irish tried to survive by making relatively primitive vessels that were wholly unsuited to the open sea, but brave and desperate men continued to try and fish in these deadly contraptions, especially on the West coast.
      Skill issue

      >The Famine was not a famine at all, it was a crop blight that was taken advantage of to commit genocide against the Irish people and stomp out any chance of resistance or revolution.
      If it was about genocide why were so many Irish allowed to settle in Britain?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Why didn't they just eat fish instead of starving? Are they stupid?

        Ireland was suffering from several problems we can learn *cool lessons* from today:
        -The number one problem is Britain had turned Ireland into a nation of renters: the overwhelming majority of Irish people did not own land and were renters or leasers of land that worked on the farms of their (sometimes absent) British landlords. The idea is you'd grow wheat or raise sheep for import on the best land while the impoverished renter were responsible for growing their own food - typically almost exclusively potatoes since they're the only thing that'll grow at a sustenance level in such stinky, yucky, soil.

        -Ireland had largely been deforested for boat construction, fuel, and then deliberately not replanted in order to be used for pasture and farmland. This created and extremely bleak wind-swept landscape of grass, rocks, rain, and basically no edible forage like nuts, fruit, or even starchy bark and roots. Granted, there were small thickets of forest & grove, but these were for private fancy use not that the average Irishman was even allowed to have a hunting rifle or a boar spear.

        -The North Atlantic waters facing the western side of Ireland are exceedingly dangerous, cold, and not anywhere near as fertile as the Celtic Sea and the Irish Sea that Britain had largely claimed fishing rights to to the exclusion of the Irish. Furthermore, at this point in time most of the infrastructure and knowledge the Irish had of fishing was forgotten, destroyed, or abandoned. By the time the potato famine had rolled around it was over a 100 years since anyone had made a canoe.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >genocide natives
      Smells like a typical operation of a British Empire.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I really love the shape of Ireland, something about it is just so aesthetic

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Well they were quite primitive for starters. Making a boat or a net isn't child's play and if you're poor and ignorant and don't have a tradition of fishing you're not gonna be able to make them.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      t. moron

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Huh?

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    While Ireland remained under Briitish rule, any development of the Irish fishing industry was viewed as a potential threat to Britain's industry. Petitions to Parliament from England ~nd Scotland resulted in a law being enacted during the 17th century which prevented Irish fishermen leaving port while the English fleet was fishing. In the 18th century, the curing of fish was brought to a standstill by the imposition of a penal duty on imported salt.

    In this period, many Irish fishermen were forced to emigrate to Newfounddland. Irish crews were brought to the Orkneys and Shetlands because of their dexterity and expertise in fishing.

    By 1800, fisheries, as an organised ind ustry, had ceased to exist in Ireland although the number of fishermen remained high. In 1830 there were 56,000 fishermen in Ireland and this figure soared as high as 113,000 in 1845, at the beginning of the famine. If the fishing industry had been developped rather than suppressed, there is little doubt that thousands of lives could have been saved during the famine by substituting sea protein for the blighted protein of the land. From 1850 onwards there was a sharp decline in the numbers involved in the industry sinking .to 23,000 in 1880. This figure remained constant up to the outbreak of World War I.

    The aim of British policy was to weaken the competitive base of Irish fishing through decentralisation. 900 small harbours and jetties were built at dispersed points around the country. Some of these were only two to six yards long. Grants were given to small fishermen, although no grant was available to buy a boat more than 46 feet long. This had the effect of sub sid ising the poor so that they could fish on a small scale, yet curtailed the potential growth of a Sizable inndustry. Despite all this, the export of Irish fish continued to threaten the big powers. Irish fish exports were mentioned in the American House of Representatives as late as 1910.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The British fishing industry, on the other hand, flourished from the inflow of capital from the City of London. Six large ports were built up (including Hull, Grirnsby and Aberrdeen), and these provided a good infraastructure for the building of a strong, centralised British fishing industry. Along with the usual private channels of capital, the British industry beneefitted from capital grants made by' the railway companies to fish retailers. In Ireland, the industry relied almost totally on the weak local capital of the fishermen themselves.

      This situation continued after inndependence and 'Ireland depends mainly on meat as a source of protein, largely because of its agricultural tradition. In i 922, the amount of fish consumed annually per head of population, was 10 lbs. In 1977 this figure had only risen to 12 lbs. per year. Thereefore, fish were not presented as a sound investment.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The more I learn about the famine the more I realize that the British did everything they could to starve as many Irish people as possible. How could a civilized Christian people be so incredibly heartless and why were the Irish so despised by the English people?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >the British did everything they could to starve as many Irish people as possible
        (X) Doubt

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The britishers owned the water or something

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Can't eat fish without any fekken potatoes, that's cruel and unusual

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's true. I was raised on boiled haddock and potatoes with butter.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        God that sounds good right now ngl

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ireland had plenty of food during the famine, wheat, beef dairy etc however it was all taken to England to relief the working class there. The crops also failed all over the British isles. If the native Irish had been left to their own devices few would have died. It was the actions of the British government and profiteering of English merchants that enacted a genocide.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Irish people were too stupid to even cook corn and rice grains before eating them so they just ate them raw and got indigestion and died.

    They brought it on themselves

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Have you ever tried fishing? Now think about doing it with a wooden pole and a 4 meters wooden boat without GPS or modern engines

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