Why didn't they just fricking kill this guy?

Why didn't they just fricking kill this guy?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    good question

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Guy was literally the Jeffrey Epstein of Ancien Regime France.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He was too high IQ. They never like to kill their own, brutality and execution are reserved for the dirty peasants. Just throw him in a comfy jail.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that part where the guards are not allowing this guy to write in his jail cell but his inmates manage to smuggle pen and paper to him never failed to makes me laugh

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If he wasn't a nobleman they surely would have

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    One of this relates intervend to the French king and he changed the judgment.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He was what Nietzsche couldn't

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A writer? But Nietzsche is that

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Or burned his books.
    I don't get why that trash was allowed to circulate.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They did in fact destroy several of his works. Shortly after Justine was published, Napoleon ordered all copies banned and destroyed. They did all of that. They just weren't thorough, because it was technologically impossible for them to eliminate every copy once disseminated at scale, just like publishing a file on the internet today. A noble here and there kept dirty little copies of his dirty little books, and this is all it takes to keep them extant. Happily, large chunks of his work survived.

      The physical destruction of Sade's work was such a commonplace that another person who also liked little girls, Simone de Beauvoir, wrote an essay about him, the title of which was a playful riposte againt the will to eliminate him and his work from the historical memory. She called it, "Must we burn Sade?"

      Left wingers love him for some reason

      Either they're bourgeois perverts who enjoy middle class orgies, or else they're commies who like the depraved power stuff. Some conservative thinkers like to advance the hypothesis that Sade epitomizes the modern left, both in his (correct) irreligiosity and in his will to power. The sex stuff is secondary, but is admittedly consonant with the current LGBTQAIRFORCE stuff. It's a convenient and rhetorically effective way to demonize one's enemy/opponent, but it also feels a bit lazy, like Godwin's law. Sade was a special case who just happened to coincide with an historically important period for modernity (French revolution). Personally, I reject the idea that jerking off into one's feces, kidnapping teenagers, torture-murder etc is the "logical consequence" of the Enlightenment. People have always been depraved, and they don't require a certain cultural milleu or a certain belief in god (or lack thereof) to enhance or check their depravity. de Maistre's vision of the universe, with his (correct) observation on the excessive cruelty of nature, his anti-rational worldview (for which he provides reasons...), his deeply unsatisfying conception of opaque, mysterious god/monarch who must simply be obeyed and that's that, was no less grim than one of Sade's banal torture scenes.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Good post, thanks.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the idea that jerking off into one's feces, kidnapping teenagers, torture-murder etc is the "logical consequence" of the Enlightenment.
        Our elites™ currently do all of these and more! in secret. Moreover, it logically follows from its materialist commitments. Let's hear one of our boys explain it:
        >My soul is what it pleased Nature to be, which is to say a consequence of the organs which Nature thought fit to implant in me in accordance with her purposes and needs. Now, since Nature needs vice as much as she needs virtue, she directed me towards the first when she found it expedient, and when she had need of the second, she filled me with the appropriate desires to which I surrendered equally promptly. Do not seek further than her laws for the cause of our human inconsistency, and to explain her laws look not beyond her will and her needs.
        >de Maistre
        He's a modern no less degenerate than the rest. Nearly any major "thinker", left and right, of the modern era is a waste of paper. If their work has any value, it's only as examples of how not to believe and think.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >There are no virtues save those which are necessary to Nature’s ends and, reciprocally, no crime which she does not need for her purposes. Nature’s mastery lies precisely in the perfect balance which she maintains between virtue and crime. But can we be guilty if we move in the direction in which she pushes us? No more than the wasp which punctures your skin with its sting.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Happily, large chunks of his work survived.
        I thought his family burned all of his writings after he died

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He had already published some works which were disseminated, thereby becoming effectively impossible to totally destroy. and some, like the scroll for 120 Days of Sodom, were hidden and later discovered. I had just made it perfectly clear that some of his works survived, and some were destroyed. Do you have brain damage?

          If you go to the back of any of the three Grove Press volumes, which are effectively the standard English edition of his work, you'll find a bibliography which parses published (surviving) works, unpublished (surviving) manuscripts, other ephemera, and works mentioned in the historical record which are presumed lost or destroyed.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Good post. Thank you, anon.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Left wingers love him for some reason

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The left is obsessed with the surface level of Sade. They like the idea of transgressive, edgy atheist philosopher. They consequently forget that Sade was as anti-egalitarian as it gets. Sade makes Ragnar Redbeard look like a moderate in comparison. Once people actually start reading Sade and point this out, the left will flock to someone else for their "edgy" kick. Probably someone like Losurdo

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Once people actually start reading

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Who in particular are you referencing?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Their ‘philosophers’ do and love Bataille too. Even though Bataille is the most despicable, far-reaching, and flat of bizarre philosopher out there. It was the one time I couldn’t get the thought process except if it was done out pure malice and spite to all that was considered good.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I’m from the rural Midwest and even I’ve read some Bataille. But I’m not a leftist in the slightest

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I’m from the rural Midwest
          Anon... I'm so sorry 🙁

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Bataille’s getting more recognition, but his depravity makes it feel unwarranted if people buy into his theories of ‘expenditure’.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bataille is great, and I love Bersani, who builds off a lot of his work.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    he's just a typical rich dude. we have many more like him now.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      reminder to not click on chinese doxing links

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's the whole internet now and it's not exclusive to any one nation or private entity

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He did nothing wrong. He was a victim of his mother in law.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do the French always have the best perverts?

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He was based. Held back nothing and walked the talk.

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