Why do normies love calling this specific technology "dystopian"?

Why do normies love calling this specific technology "dystopian"? What the frick about this specific product causes such a reaction in people?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm sorry but no matter how much you shill this, I will NEVER but anything from Apple. I don't think about Apple, I do not own anything by Apple, and I will never buy something from a company that outsources development to jeetland and seels it to fat, ignorant amerilard teenagers for 5x the price.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So what phone do you buy that doesn't outsource to jeetland? Something that is built in chinkland instead? Or maybe asiaticland?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        NTA but those two are objectively better tho.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      adolescent and midwit

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just assume they are watch ads
    i cant take it seriously
    the people using it wont know how to install adblock on it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >uBlock Origin is occult technology

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        These things run iPadOS. uBlock Origin does not exist there, only things like AdGuard.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        For normies, it actually is. People really watch youtube with ads and never think to do anything about it but pay.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I know people (usually people who never know the difference between Mac and Windows (gen x and young zoomers)) who will stare at a 45 seconds ad, then another 15 second ad, and do nothing about it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      moron. why do you think ad companies are always looking for ways to circumvent ad blocking apps? Because the majority uses it. You're not special.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wouldn't expect you to understand r/latestagecapitalism, you fricking racist fascist chud!

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Just put on the corpovision googles so we can have total control over your senses stupid goy. What could possibly go wrong?

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > Why do normies love calling this specific technology "dystopian"?

    Because it is a cool buzzword they just learned, so everything "omg this is faintly just like muh black mirror episode tech" is "dystopian" now.

    Over the past decade, I've seen that word to apply to almost every single possible thing. It means absolutely nothing now, so you can just ignore it.

    All it does is outing people who watched Black Mirror or read 1984, and now they suddenly feel enlightened and counter-culture.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >or read 1984

      Across the board, anybody who compares anything to 1984 has never read 1984. Simply just ask them who the protagonist is, they won't have an answer.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's been years since I read it, isn't his name George something?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yep.

        Which is a shame, because I thought it was genuinely a good book, but there is zero way to have any discussion about it or even reveal that you read it, without being subjected to normie drivel based off just surface-level reading of the book or, worse, just the summary.

        It's been years since I read it, isn't his name George something?

        Nice bait

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        brave new world was and still is much more accurate the 1984 was, is or ever will be

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the protagonist name is the most important aspect of a story
        this has to be bait. If not you must be female if you think the protags name matters

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        1984 try hard with the idea that any government is inherent evil (totalitarianism, mass surveillance and repressive regimentation). It's a wrong view of a government. But governments have too services so well that the average joe don't even think of it as the "government = evil". You eat food and take meds, determined as safe by a government agency.
        Education, taxes, economy, healthcare, you can purchase shit of Amazon because Gov A have Free trade agreements with Gov B. If 1984 is true, why governments waste money in the population?

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >NOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUH HECKIN SOCIAL INTERACTIONERINO HOW AM I GOING TO BE ABLE TO LOOK PEOPLE IN THE EYE AND CONNECT WITH THEM?!?!?!?!
    The future is for us introverts and spergs.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it has a massive dystopian potential though.

    > live in tiny dirty pod
    > eternal wageslave
    > "turn on Vision Pro"
    > you're now in a beautiful place in nature
    > your house is clean and huge
    > everything is pretty
    > "your app subscription will expire in 4 days, don't forget to renew it"

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There are a lot of people who genuinely get upset at the idea of other people being able to engage in their own personal world instead of suffer their presence. See here:

      Because you're literally turning off reality when in VR as if you're unable to even look at the world around you.
      Augmented reality is even worse since it'll quickly turn into a form of alternate reality where you'll be photoshopping the homeless and ugly people from your eyesight in real time.
      If you did all this without the aid of modern advanced technology you'd be called a schizophrenic maniac.

      Because we don't want to live inside a video game, you moron. And we can easily imagine the millions of mouthbreathers who would. And they would never shower again. That's dystopian.

      Because it's obvious that you're seeing things that no one else is. You're actually strapping an insanity headset to your face, a device that disconnects you from reality. No one knows how to interact with you because the don't know what you're seeing, and that includes other people wearing the things. Also, your facial expressions are limited, so it's hard to guess your current mood. Oh sure 90+% of the time it's going to be just fine because most of the few interactions with people you even have these days are minimal and meaningless, but it doesn't change the fact that you're willfully taking yourself out of reality into something totally controlled by corporate interests like this.

      The only way for everyone to get along under such circumstances is to sacrifice all individuality and make everyone think identically.

      They're people who through some weird social anxiety or inferiority want everyone else to desperately be on the same wavelength as them. Conformists, basically.
      Additionally, a lot of people care more about style than substance so they think it's some drastic change:
      >Oh my God, so gauche, people strapping computers to their face
      When in reality it's basically just a smartphone with more privacy and a larger (virtual) screen

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It really only has smartphone apps for now, but given time that can and will change.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I argue that this further erodes us as human beings and as a society, you argue for hedonism. We are not the same.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Society is a parasite upon humanity. The goal of technology should be the extinction of all nonconsensual interactions and relationships and the creation of a framework that facilitates the self-actualization of the individual, not the perpetuation of a subconscious egregore that uses human beings as cattle.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            See here [...]
            You talk about people like they're chattle using words like "breeding"
            You are a pawn of society, a single cell in the social immune/nervous system. Break free and become a individual

            disgusting take, enjoy your multiple mental illnesses

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            See how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back!

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            how am I injured anon? I live with my family, I'm never alone, why would I be "injured" my some random anonymous individualist that has zero impact on "society"?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The goal of technology should be the actualization and individuation of every single being but you're stupid if you think part of this process doesn't involve social development and one's understanding of their place in the world vs the other. You're so close and yet you decide to go for the atomized manchild take, lol

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's funny how you equate the extinction of "all nonconsensual interactions" with the extinction of social development as a whole. Really tells you something about your outlook, does it not?

            >I don't want to be a slave to society
            >I want to be a slave to a corporation instead

            You are the only creating the false dichotomy where both options are slavery... If they were both slavery, why should I care about either option? You imply one type of slavery is better than another and thus defeat yourself.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's the point. You are a slave either way.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Only in the dichotomy you create, that's my point. But in reality it doesn't matter, the real yoke is the masochistic sentiment you express, the belief that one side is "winning" by selling you an opium... You take the opium, and experience sublime, divine pleasures preordained by a creator, the real losers are the mere hominids rubbing their hands, thinking they have "owned" and "cucked" you, you painlessly pass through this world in complete bliss and they are stuck for a few more moments, obsessed with their oaths and tribulations, contracts and forfeitures. In the end, their souls are weighed not with gold, but against thin air; All of our lives diminute and humiliated by Death, who brings only humility to the prideful and peace to the poor in spirit.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            uh, waiter? i'll have whatever this guy ordered

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If the master gives opium to the slave that doesn't stop the slave from being a slave. Also that's like the most common drug in the US.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Really tells you something about your outlook, does it not?
            I'm not peculiarly fond of humanity and its devils, no. A personally curated hyperreality would just be a circular ego-driven hedonistic void. It's a lie that fails to acknowledge even the most basic facts about living and it's one that would unequivocally lead to decadence and ignorance. Your brittle ego really is worth nothing in the face of living and any attempts to avoid this truth lead to stagnation.
            Grow up.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Life is about accepting life, not about knowing some empty, literal "truth". It would be a terrible realization if mere words or thoughts had more weight than trillions of years of collective living. No screed could substitute for qualia. No, It is a lesson that is never fully learned by anyone except when life itself is completed.

            If the master gives opium to the slave that doesn't stop the slave from being a slave. Also that's like the most common drug in the US.

            My point is that it's all in your head, your chains are the unshakable belief you are a slave. The real individual is his own master regardless of the world, he only seeks to convince the world to agree. Eventually, it will.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Life is about accepting life
            And accepting life means accepting you're not in control, you're wired too poorly to choose, you're a social animal and any attempts at avoiding this will bring you misery and decadence. I'm all in for cultivating a rich inner life, but it works in balance and feeds itself on the equal riches of the world and its creatures. An autistic life in a void gets you nowhere and the removal of pressures set in stone since time immemorial to avoid it only for some sad hedonistic imperative is the kind of absolutely stupid shit only someone who has not lived enough (and yet too much in front of their monitor) would come up with.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Life is about accepting life, not about knowing some empty, literal "truth"
            How do you accept life if you're not supposed to know what life even is?
            > It would be a terrible realization if mere words or thoughts had more weight than trillions of years of collective living
            Too bad that's the case. That's literally what's happening. Just look at the fact that we're being forced to pretend that a woman is anyone who says she's a woman, based on no other criteria leading to a circular definition, but then go and treat men who say they are women as if they're just like people who have been born with wombs. That's what happens when you stop trying to look at things from the perspective of an omniscient observer, i.e. you stop looking for the truth.

            Reading comprehension, "accepting life" doesn't mean accepting these articulated, "set in stone" ideas ABOUT life, it means accepting the inarticulate sensuality of being - life itself.
            All of these interpretations (you're not in control, le dopamine and blah blah) are just interpretations, things that are suspended and unthought during the many states of consciousness you inhabit.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Even in pure being and in bullshit meditations that kill thought you should realize everything that arises from this standstill is thought, starting with the fact that material existence cannot continue without sacrifice. Every second of experience is afforded in place of something else to fuel it. I genuinely struggled to reply to this because it has frickall to do with the topic at hand though. You can't just let be or be; that runs contrary to the art of living.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's just one perspective, what fuels the universe? What was sacrificed to create it? You're ascribing absolutes to an exceptional thing.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Life is about accepting life, not about knowing some empty, literal "truth"
            How do you accept life if you're not supposed to know what life even is?
            > It would be a terrible realization if mere words or thoughts had more weight than trillions of years of collective living
            Too bad that's the case. That's literally what's happening. Just look at the fact that we're being forced to pretend that a woman is anyone who says she's a woman, based on no other criteria leading to a circular definition, but then go and treat men who say they are women as if they're just like people who have been born with wombs. That's what happens when you stop trying to look at things from the perspective of an omniscient observer, i.e. you stop looking for the truth.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Chains are not imaginary.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I don't want to be a slave to society
            >I want to be a slave to a corporation instead

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Society is humanity. If we were to use technology to purge all non-consensual interactions and relationships, it would prevent us from giving birth or having relationships with our parents (children can't give consent). This would lead to extinction of humanity. You talk of humans being cattle, however strapping a VR headset on and allowing technology to curate our entire experience only amplifies this meaning.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You are creating a narrative where people having freedom over their own reality is deadly. So, again, you believe people are fundamentally cattle.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >it would prevent us from giving birth or having relationships with our parents
            it wouldn't. these technologies are more likely to purge impure, half-hearted transactional interactions. you're not defending the soul, you are defending undivine """"nature""""

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > technology makes people breed less.
        > breeding less is bad because it makes people without technology access win the evolution game by outbreeding first world people
        > AR/VR and robots will make even more men addicted to fake girlfriends
        if you can't see this, you're a soulless brainlet corporate wiener sucker

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          See here

          Society is a parasite upon humanity. The goal of technology should be the extinction of all nonconsensual interactions and relationships and the creation of a framework that facilitates the self-actualization of the individual, not the perpetuation of a subconscious egregore that uses human beings as cattle.

          You talk about people like they're chattle using words like "breeding"
          You are a pawn of society, a single cell in the social immune/nervous system. Break free and become a individual

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >with more privacy
        absolute moron

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because you're literally turning off reality when in VR as if you're unable to even look at the world around you.
    Augmented reality is even worse since it'll quickly turn into a form of alternate reality where you'll be photoshopping the homeless and ugly people from your eyesight in real time.
    If you did all this without the aid of modern advanced technology you'd be called a schizophrenic maniac.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      also imagine what this will do to kids that will never take that shit off their heads.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They'll be extremely productive, their brains completely trained to work with the computer. The only reason I don't want one is I don't want apple to own my brain. If I still had control over the hardware I would buy one.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, just like they did with iphones. THAT surely hasn't had any negative consequences to society!

          >we don't
          No, YOU don't. You do not speak for me.

          Enjoy owning nothing and being happy about it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > If you did all this without the aid of modern advanced technology you'd be called a schizophrenic maniac.

      I mean, if you told people you have a magic eye that allows you to have access to any information in the world and allows you to interact with anyone in the world halfway across the planet in real-time without the aid of modern advanced technology, you'd be called a schizophrenic maniac too.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What is Foucault's entire body of work for 100 dollars?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the actual Foucalt's entire body of work for free:

          > Foucault argued that children could give sexual consent.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Wrong. Foucault argued that creating consent laws was gonna lead to a society ruled by fear and terrorism. And he was 1000% correct.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            making it illegal to bang minors lead to a society ruled by fear and terrorism, got it.

            How do we fix that? Do we start by decriminalizing banging minors? Hm, seems awfully convenient, but maybe that's what we needed to undo the fear and terror we inflicted upon our society and let it rule us. It surely will, amirite, definitely not a totally moronic idea at all

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You are literally giving the government the power to determine what consent is. It's literally 1984.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > making banging minors a crime is literally 1984

            Couldn't have been better timing, you are the one the post directly above yours (

            Kek extroverts and /misc/ scizos are getting absolutely mind broken by this moronic tech.

            ) is talking about

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The plot of 1984 is literally about a dude trying to bang some chick without permission from the government. That's actually what the book is about.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Foucault was a left-wing anarchist sis. Pretty much the opposite of your average /misc/ chud.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Far left are ultimately degenerate in the exact same ways that the far right are, but with slightly different flavor. Both are barbarians that are into incest, pedo shit, schizophrenia, and lack of any reasoning skills whatsoever.

            So yeah, this is very much exactly what i had in mind

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            t. cuckservative

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            .Wrong. Foucault argued that creating consent laws was gonna lead to a society ruled by fear and terrorism. And he was 1000% correct.
            What exactly should a society that exists in the real world with real consequences be ruled by if not fear?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's why the Joker is such a popular character btw.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >grug do not understand book
            >book too complicated
            >ah, grug know. grug will say man who write book part of current-thing culture war on bad side

            moron alert lol

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because we don't want to live inside a video game, you moron. And we can easily imagine the millions of mouthbreathers who would. And they would never shower again. That's dystopian.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >we don't
      No, YOU don't. You do not speak for me.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Idiot, OP asked a particular group of people. If you're not in it, you don't answer the question. Now shut up.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >all normies do half the time is b***h about life and how miserable they are
      >get upset when others want to escape it
      Why?

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Only Redditors and Twitter lefty people call it that. Normies don't give a frick.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    roasties seethe as their drops lower

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's like cyberpunk n sheeit. The reality is we live in a troony homosexual israelite dystopia already and a toy for rich people isn't going to make it worse.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The tech is just not there yet but people are going crazy for it and wearing them in public. The willingness to look insane in public is what makes it seem dystopian.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >no one else is doing something and you are?
      >YOU ARE INSANE
      Fricking neurotypicals.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's more like everyone else sees nothing, but you're acting like there's something there.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >if I don't see something it's not real/doesn't exist

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If I don't see something that someone is clearly looking at and trying to interact with, then no, it's not real! Consider the video here.

            >calling this specific technology "dystopian"?
            because it's one step to making women obsolete

            What will you see when you're looking at the guy with the headset? A guy wearing some goggles holding out his hand like he's pulling on something while walking around, possibly talking to someone you can't see. You'd almost think it was a vlogger if it wasn't for the lack of a spherical camera on a sick in his hand.
            He's trying to interact with something that is simply not there.

            And I think that's how Apple is going to end up drawing people into buying these things. You put one on, and you'll finally be able to see what other people are looking at. And then, when everyone sees it, can it start to be thought of as real even though its virtual. There will be competitors, but network effects will take hold and only one shared virtual reality will win out.
            Many people will recognize that they didn't actually want to be drawn into the virtual world, they just didn't have a choice if they didn't want to be left out.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            A lot of cope in your blog post.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How about you put forward a single argument why anyone actually should get it.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I think it is not going to get popular because normal people obviously spot the insanity (unlike with smartphones where it was hidden at first).

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i call it "gay and moronic" technology

  15. 2 weeks ago
    sageru

    so is this different from the other fricking 50 threads about this same thing in the catalog or no, is it just more moronic slop

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's obvious that you're seeing things that no one else is. You're actually strapping an insanity headset to your face, a device that disconnects you from reality. No one knows how to interact with you because the don't know what you're seeing, and that includes other people wearing the things. Also, your facial expressions are limited, so it's hard to guess your current mood. Oh sure 90+% of the time it's going to be just fine because most of the few interactions with people you even have these days are minimal and meaningless, but it doesn't change the fact that you're willfully taking yourself out of reality into something totally controlled by corporate interests like this.

    The only way for everyone to get along under such circumstances is to sacrifice all individuality and make everyone think identically.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >calling this specific technology "dystopian"?
    because it's one step to making women obsolete

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >literally Blade Runner 2049

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      incel cringe take

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Post-wall roastie take

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Becuase a person wearing this while walking and doing things looks like he is being remotely controlled.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What about letting a corporation literally dictate what you *see* doesn't have MASSIVE dystopian potential?
    Even normies notice you look like a total fricking cuck for wearing these.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      to be fair that is already happening, I am personally looking at some screen most of the time.

      VR only makes this "screen" way bigger

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah but the psychologically addictive screens and relentless hits of dopamine are relatively subtle. Normies, in their stupidity, don't notice it until it's literally right in front of their faces.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What the FRICK is that image you posted? That's a .jpg but when I expanded the thumbnail, the girl on the left's eye color suddenly changed. What? How the hell did you do that?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I think that's just a case of wonderful jpeg compression at its best. Low quality versions of the image drop the turquoise's vibrancy too.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    bicycle helmet iphone

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because of literally every single piece of cyberpunk media.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's an actual tool of enslavement. Only slaves will have those. Free people live in reality. I can see slavetech being a thing in future slums and among the serf caste.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's interesting to me is that the same people who call VR dystopian are probably the same people who call these delivery robots 'cute'.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's the kind of people who would shot at that thing if it came anywhere near their property.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kek extroverts and /misc/ scizos are getting absolutely mind broken by this moronic tech.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it invokes the imagery of 70s and 80s dystopian sci-fi fiction for which such devices were integral to the dystopian aspect. It goes hand-in-hand with the idea of covering up the eyes and displaying an altered reality. Pair that with concerns about new world order and political instability.
    Hence all the rich and vibrant intelligent conversation around this device.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not only that but there's a lot of the immediate symbolism lost in the translation from fiction to reality.
      theyre literally blindfolds lol

  26. 2 weeks ago
    sage

    >normies
    >"dystopian"
    Apple corpo shill thread.
    I WILL NOT BUY YOUR ESPIONAGE DEVICE.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because it makes it even harder to spot israelites

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Apple are giving all you guys the golden ticket to get used to developing AR/VR apps and get used to the ecosystem - so you are ready for the Vision Nano Glasses. Stop your whining and just buy it brorito.

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm gonna get one of these 2nd or 3rd gen. I do so much shit out of spite already, I fricking hate normies. I'd love to tune them out while I browse /misc/ on a 70-inch screen, have hentai on the upper left, and imperial German army music blasting in my ears, all while I sit there smirking.
    Frick the normies

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's because Apple controls it and Apple is the ultimate dystopian Corporation. Other companies will eventually copy Apple, making the dystopia universal.

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's "dystopian" because every promotional ad always show WOMEN using the device. In real life only MEN are wearing the glasses, they idiots for pay money in this shit, "dystopian" is forcing the idea that are devices aimed to women. I dont remember see women wearing the devices in the last 72 hours.

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    dystopian means it's icky (like, ew), and when I don't like it.

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