Why do redditors hate him?

The common reddit opinion of the day is that Justinian was REALLY terrible and just ruined everything actually. Why is this? I talked to some guy and he was like "conquering doesn't make you a good ruler, he didn't write those laws and building stuff doesn't matter"

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  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    go back there

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I didn't actually see it on reddit, it's more that it just comes off as reddit. Purposefully contrarian to pretend to be smart.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Redditor spotted. Have only seen redditor nugays like Justinian.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't think he was perfect but seeing people call him the greatest ever and then going the exact opposite way and saying he ruined the empire and was terrible is just as dumb. He was a good emperor who made some mistakes but accomplished a lot.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >accomplished a lot
            Legacy into 717 border, he sure did.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >150 years after his death

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            The Roman Emprie fell, which means Augustus was a moronic failure.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            He was.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Well, good thing I don't go to reddit, then

      These guys browse reddit

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Well, good thing I don't go to reddit, then

  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I always saw him as an almost parallel of Augustus, but got fricked heavily by the plague.
    I think his tale really shows the importance of how we're all quite powerless in the face of nature, and even "Great People" can't do anything to fight it.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      This.
      People don't seem to realize how devastating the plague really was. This was perhaps the worst event in all Roman history, and Justinian was emperor at that time, talk about bad luck.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not to mention being combined with the volcanic and ushering of the 'mini ice age'.

        Surely this has to be the event which triggered the plague in the first place, though? The coincidence is just too fricking high.

        He must've felt like Boris Johnson having to deal with Brexit, Ukraine and Covid all at once, kek.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous
    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't his reign considered successful?
      My impression was always that Justinian was a high tier Emperor who managed the Empire very well in pretty much every possible way under a very difficult scenario.

  4. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    he literally did everything right but homies will say because 60 years after he died a set of events unrelated to him happened he was terrible

  5. 5 months ago
    Radiochan

    he kind of did
    instead of internal funding to improve the empire he decided to go on a quixotic quest to reconquer the West, create a bigass cathedral, war with the Persians, and also decide to meddle in religious matters that ended with Egypt and Syria preferring the Musselman to the Roman since at least the Musselman let them practice their Christianity and didn't break up their villages and resettle them

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >instead of internal funding to improve the empire
      He did though? He increased salary to civil servants and demanded to payments made by those appealing to it decrease. He created a new Prefecture, new field army and obviously his entire legal reforms and countless other civil reforms.
      >that ended with Egypt and Syria preferring the Musselman to the Roman since at least the Musselman let them practice their Christianity
      Quite literally not true. There was no Christian support of the Arabic invasions. Literally the epicenter of opposition to Imperial Orthodoxy in Egypt, Alexandria, invited a Roman army to try to expel the Arabs from Egypt.

      • 5 months ago
        Radiochan

        >no Christian support
        I mean if you don't think Miaphysites are Christian OK

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          It’s a pop history myth that the miaphysites supported the Muslims and he literally showed why

  6. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    everything after north africa was a meme and he got lucky on that. Still based as frick for making procopeius shit and piss his pants chasing him around the palace at night when he took his head off

  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I find it entertaining that you try to disarm any criticism of Justinian by asserting fallaciously that those who don't hold favorable views of the man are belonging to a locally disliked group. Care to explain why you did so?

    also, anyone who wants to know the real deal about Justinian can watch this documentary: https://youtu.be/PehCn_3kyw4?si=x8_kVuOqjeE4eXxe

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      YouTube videos aren’t documentaries
      Go back

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >youtube videos arent documentaries
        Documentaries on youtube are documentaries.
        Calling other people gay will not make you less gay.
        Similarly, calling other people "reddit" will not make you less "reddit."

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think it's fine to cast criticism on his reign, I just don't think ignoring all of his accomplishments and brushing them off while ridiculing people who think he's a good emperor is good. He's not a terrible emperor. To call him a terrible emperor is frankly ridiculous.

  8. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    My only problem with him is that without him and his prostitute wife(and her prostitute friend) Belisarius would go on to reconquer the whole empire
    >Muh inner improvement
    Doesn't matter and would get ruined by plague anyway

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