Why do they try so hard to separate science from religion?

Your understanding of history is flawed and a consequence of the revisionism of the "historians" of the Enlightenment. Alfred North Whitehead (English mathematician) in 1925 said at Harvard that it was the medieval Christian conception of God that contributed so much to scientific life.

This really sums up what I would like to say. Why did the natural sciences develop from Christian Europe? Because the Christian understanding provided a perfect breeding ground for this.

Why not the ancient Greeks? Because ultimately everything was attributed to their Gods. Why is planet "x" moving? Because it is moved by "y" God. So, of course, it couldn't have started here.

Why not the Islamic world? Because, according to them, Allah did not make a rational, self-functioning world. Allah intervenes in his world. They could not observe connections, because then they would have denied that Allah could have intervened in it at any time, that would be a sin.

Why not the Chinese? Because, as Joseph Needham said, they would have despised it. They simply weren't interested and wouldn't have gone because of their religious teachings.

It was the Christian understanding that broke the way with a rational image of God. Empiricism first appeared in Christian, Catholic universities, which greatly facilitated development. Autopsies also began at these universities and were not religiously prohibited. Because it is the soul that is forbidden to hurt, but the body is allowed.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Okay, let's see the inventions and innovations:
    -Dams (The Netherlands was created in the Middle Ages.)
    -Windmills (There were so many in Europe that they caught wind of each other and therefore sued each other in well-functioning courts)
    -Three-field system
    -Heavy plow (As a result, the harder, northern Italian lands were also allowed to be sown)
    -Horse harness (they could even use faster horses)
    -Plant breeding (better yield)
    -Chimneys
    -Glasses (Until the time of Columbus, it was unknown elsewhere, it was mass produced in Europe)
    -Capitalism
    Because of these innovations the population increased.

    Okay, what about warfare?
    -Sailboats
    -Cannons
    -Heavy cavalry (Others used it elsewhere, but it was used more and better thanks to the stirrup and saddle)

    What about culture?
    -Abolition of slavery
    -Two and polyphonic music
    -Musical notation
    -Romanesque and gothic style
    -Counterfort (as a resault people could build bigger buildings)
    -National literary language and literature (Dante, Geoffrey Chaucer, Chanson de geste)
    -Universities (In ancient and other medieval academies, only established knowledge was passed on; in medieval Christian universities, the presentation of new knowledge was mandatory)
    -Modern disciplines
    -Oil paintings (works of Van Eyck)
    -Parliamentarism

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Galileo was never in prison, the lie of Voltaire and the other "historians" of the time is that he suffered in prison. He was put on trial because he scolded the Pope, but he served his sentence under house arrest and after his death, his theory was already taught in the Jesuit institutes, which he could not properly prove.
      Bruno was burned because he called Jesus a wizard , but his teachings were taught as a theory, the Catholic Church believed in science so much that it expected more evidence.
      The Inquisition did not persecute scientists, did not burn witches, protected morals, and in some places protected the inhabitants from despotism.
      etc etc

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The Italian and Spanish Inquisition did not persecute witches, because most of the time the reported witches were priests who performed magic within a liturgical framework, which was common in medieval Europe.
        According to the serfs, the blessing of the water and the land was magic and they believed that the priest did the good harvest and not the God. This also proves that medieval serfdom was not blinded by the "evil and manipulative church". In fact, we know from the lives of the saints how much they were not interested in the church. Once a saint child was urged to stop this nonsense and not to pray to God. They still went to church, but not because they actually felt the weight of Christianity.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The church didn't kill Indians, the secular powers did. They called themselves Christians, but they did not represent the church, nor the religion, and even they were relatively kind to the natives. Most of them died of diseases and not because of the "genocide". The Catholic Church prohibited the abuse of the Indians with papal bulls, but the conquerors did not care, they thought much more simply. The church also prohibited the enslavement and plundering of Indians. But they should still thank us for ending human sacrifices in America.
          In the meantime, Catholic teachers and monks visited America to protect Indians, teach them and give them the words of God. A Jesuit Indian state was created, which was defeated by Portuguese and Spanish troops.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >The church didn't kill Indians, the secular powers did
            No such powers existed at the time

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >15th-16th centuries
            >secular powers
            is this what hispanchitos really believe

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Why do you deny the Road to Canossa?
            Why didn't you meantion the Investiture Controversy?
            The papal excommunication was also created so that the head of the church could act successfully against non-ecclesiastical powers.
            The Catholic Church had many opponents in the Middle Ages and this "everyone is Catholic" rhetoric seems to be failing. Even the serfs did not believe in Christianity, especially the kings who in many places, especially in the west, aspired to absolute rule. Christianity was the defender of democracy for hundreds of years.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Even the serfs did not believe in Christianity, especially the kings who in many places
            Incorrect
            >Christianity was the defender of democracy for hundreds of years.
            The divine right of kings was a Christian doctrine. Incorrect again

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Incorrect
            wow, impressive argument
            >The divine right of kings was a Christian doctrine. Incorrect again
            This one was hundreds of years later. This was created when the church was already weakened and had to cooperate with other non-ecclesiastical powers for the sake of faith. The defense of democracy appears in Venice, where the Inquisition kept the nobles under control so that they could not aspire to a monopoly.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >wow, impressive argument
            Correct. Prove to me beyond a shadow of a doubt that kings and serfs did not believe in Christianity.
            >Divine Right of Kings was made after Christianity was weakened
            It predates Christianity and it was evoked constantly in the Dark and Middle Ages into the Enlightenment as justification for the monarchies. Incorrect again.
            >Inquisitors kept a monopoly from forming
            That's not defending democracy, that's meddling in it. Not to mention Venice was not a democracy but a republic. Crucial difference.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >its not real Christianity!!1!
            >real Christianity hasn't been tried yet

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You do not understand. I just said that it would make more sense if we considered the church as the final one when we looked at their sins and not some people who may have believed in Christ, but marched against Christianity and burned Jesuit churches in America. Why would the conquistadors be Christians if they had murdered Christian priests in America? Maybe they just didn't care about religion and were tools of other great powers

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Why would the conquistadors be Christians if they had murdered Christian priests in America?
            Why are Christians who killed Byzantines in the Crusades considered Christians? Or any of the European Wars of Religion?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            They did not kill Christians but heretics

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You are moronic
            >inb4 Pope is not actually leader of Catholics
            So god didn't care that his religion got overtaken by Satanist and let BILLIONS of believer into hell because they didn't knew internal politics of Vatican?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Forgot pic rel

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Why would the Christians who spread the religion in the Roman empire be considered real Christians when they acted like blm tier nig nogs?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Galileo was never in prison
        House arrest is still imprisonment

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          However, the contrast between the dark and dank prison and his own warm home is sharp. Although he deserved the punishment. In fact, he deserved more. In his real life, he was a liar, he lied that he invented the telescope or that he threw objects from the Leaning Tower of Pisa. It was all a lie. In real life, he was a jerk and a jealous person.
          He also included the new world view in his book just to annoy the Pope, there were a few lines. That's not why he was imprisoned, the punishment itself started because he mocked the Pope and even that was not instigated by the Pope. Why would he do it? They were good friends and he knew his nature, he knew well how aggressive and brash he was, but he still remained a Christian until the end of his life.
          After his death, his doctrines were already taught.

          >The church didn't kill Indians, the secular powers did
          No such powers existed at the time

          We may have encountered a translation error. Secular powers were what the church was not. Such were the kings, princes, citizens, peasants and everyone who was not a member of the Catholic Church. All of these were and were often at war with the papal state. These powers continued to kill the Indians in spite of the Pope's laws.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >However, the contrast between the dark and dank prison and his own warm home is sharp.
            Being imprisoned is being imprisoned no matter your surroundings, moron. Swedish prisons are basically cozy studio apartments and Muslims still light themselves on fire inside them because imprisonment causes madness.
            >character assassination
            Nothing to do with his theories and hiding the fact that he was persecuted by religious authorities for not towing the party line. When he was arrested, he asked the arresting official to look through his telescope and see with his own eyes the imperfections of the spheres. The official refused.
            >after his death his doctrines were taught
            Irrelevant if they destroyed his life in pursuit of dogma. Making fun of King Pedo is not justification for house arrest. Being a dick in your personal life is not justification for house arrest.
            >translation error
            No, you just can't speak English.
            >These people kept killing Indians
            You don't get to say people aren't Christians, and if the Papacy really gave a shit they had ways to put the screws to the multitude of European empires who were slaughtering the red man and calling it a mission from God himself.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Being imprisoned is being imprisoned no matter your surroundings
            Prison and house arrest are two completely different legal terms and methods of punishment.
            >Nothing to do with his theories and hiding the fact that he was persecuted by religious authorities
            In the scientific field, the only problem the church had was that he could not prove it. He didn't know, nobody knew at the time and the church wanted to see more evidence. And as I said, there were a few lines in this book. By the way, his book about the tidal phenomenon has already been refuted, it was wrong. According to the official procedure, the problem was that he insulted church dignitaries. The scientific problems were raised in the later part of the trial quite rightly.
            >Irrelevant if they destroyed his life
            If you can continue to work and live your happy life, it is not the same as destroying your life. Liberal cripple.
            >No, you just can't speak English.
            How does this prove their non-existence?
            >You don't get to say people aren't Christians, and if the Papacy really gave a shit they had ways to put the screws to the multitude of European empires who were slaughtering the red man and calling it a mission from God himself.
            As I said, the average person only understood religion at the level of magic. The lives of the saints are perfect proof of this. Well, I accept that they were Christians. Regardless, it was not Christianity's fault that these "atrocities" happened. The Christian Church represents the Church, not in the service of some "Christian" powers who were against the Church. The Pope was interested in the fate of the Indians, so he created a state there under the protection of the Church and made bulls. But the power of the church had weakened to such an extent that it could do no more.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Prison and house arrest are two completely different legal terms and methods of punishment.
            We aren't talking legal terms anon, we are describing forced confinement.
            >the only problem the church had was that he could not prove it
            Looking through a telescope reveals the imperfection of the spheres. The officials repeatedly refused to look.
            >a few lines in one book
            So you're using a single biased source as your entire basis for the argument? Sounds pretty pathetic as far as rhetorical defense goes.
            >if you continue to work and continue your happy life
            His life very clearly was not happy if he was forcibly confined to his home. Look at how insane people went in Covid lockdowns and imagine it's being enforced by thugs under the rule of King Pedo and you will suffer burning at the stake if you leave.
            >according to official procedure
            So the biased word of the people imprisoning him. Do you also believe that the people of North Korea are happy, healthy, and eternally loyal to the Kim's? It's the official record according to them.
            >How does my inability to parse basic English mean anything?
            There wasn't a single secular power in Europe until the French Revolution. Catholic or Protestant they drew their power from the divine right to rule and used religion to justify why the child of the last king gets to keep being king because God himself put him in charge.
            >the average person understood religion as magic
            Knowing the intricacies of the Echumenical Council of Blibbyhum and its Justification of Jordan doesn't make you any more of a Christian than the dude in the field who thinks God intervenes in his life if he is sufficiently pious. It's all magical thinking, unless you're saying that the religious authorities themselves understood there was no God and that the Church was the only thing that was real about their religion. There were ZERO secular societies and powers until the 1900s.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >We aren't talking legal terms anon, we are describing forced confinement.
            But I was literally talking about the legal interpretation. I don't care that he was detained where he could continue to live his boring life in good conditions.
            >Looking through a telescope reveals the imperfection of the spheres. The officials repeatedly refused to look.
            Even looking through a telescope will not show that the earth is not in the center.
            >So you're using a single biased source as your entire basis for the argument? Sounds pretty pathetic as far as rhetorical defense goes.
            I use Galileo's book as a source, the idea that the earth is not in the center was about two or three lines, bruh.
            >His life very clearly was not happy if he was forcibly confined to his home. Look at how insane people went in Covid lockdowns and imagine it's being enforced by thugs under the rule of King Pedo and you will suffer burning at the stake if you leave.
            I think he deserved it. He was a very simple person, but the miserable fate cannot be foretold.
            >So the biased word of the people imprisoning him.
            Okay, let's put the legal evidence aside. Let's see what they really thought about him. We know that the Pope corresponded with him and respected him as a friend and liked him until the end of his life. In comparison, Galileo kicked the Pope wherever he could because he enjoyed hurting others. But anyway, I was talking about the lawsuit in a strictly legal sense.
            >There wasn't a single secular power in Europe until the French Revolution
            Secular powers literally means the non-ecclesiastical powers that Europe was full of.
            >Knowing the intricacies of the Echumenical Council of Blibbyhum and its Justification of Jordan doesn't make you any more of a Christian than the dude in the field
            According to your interpretation they are Christians, I don't think so. How could they be if they didn't believe in miracles and the Catholic Church? Even better, we are talking about heretics.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >I don't care that he was detained where he could continue to live his boring life in good conditions.
            You only think house arrest isn't bad because you're a shut-in neet.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I would like to live in a big palace or house while I don't have to do anything because i get paid for literally nothing. He really deserved to die in the first place.

            Nice larp, ameribro.

            NOOOOO, that's not laaaarp :3

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >I would like to live in a big palace or house while I don't have to do anything because i get paid for literally nothing.
            Yeah because you're a shut-in neet, we've already established that.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >I don't care that he was detained
            I accept your concession then.
            >Earth isn't the center!
            I was discussing the imperfection of the spheres anon, do try to keep up.
            >I think he deserved it
            Good thing nobody cares what you think and history has completely vindicated him and the Church's treatment of him remains a black stain upon its record of scientific repression.
            >BWEH GALLY WAS A MEANIE
            I wouldn't be too happy with the Lord Pedo who forcibly imprisoned me and denied my theories without presenting sufficient counter arguments on the basis of dogma until they pulled a reverse card and decided I was right.
            >Secular powers means non ecclesiastical
            Which derived their authority from divine providence. Incorrect.
            >NO TRUE CHRISTIANS
            I accept your concession on that topic as well.
            >No non ecclesiastical powers
            Correct.
            >King Pedo is God on Earth
            God seems to change his mind a lot then. The Pope himself would also disagree with you.
            >Don't believe in miracles
            Prove to me that they didn't
            >Killing heretics is ok
            Real 40k hours here. Christians are Christians.
            >Democracy is the people's rule
            No it isn't. It's a specific system of governance. Venice was a democratic republic.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >There were ZERO secular societies and powers until the 1900s
            True, but this does not mean that there were no non-ecclesiastical powers.

            >wow, impressive argument
            Correct. Prove to me beyond a shadow of a doubt that kings and serfs did not believe in Christianity.
            >Divine Right of Kings was made after Christianity was weakened
            It predates Christianity and it was evoked constantly in the Dark and Middle Ages into the Enlightenment as justification for the monarchies. Incorrect again.
            >Inquisitors kept a monopoly from forming
            That's not defending democracy, that's meddling in it. Not to mention Venice was not a democracy but a republic. Crucial difference.

            >Correct. Prove to me beyond a shadow of a doubt that kings and serfs did not believe in Christianity.
            The Catholic Church is the word of God, those who agitate and fight against it are non-Christians because they deny the word of God, they were heretics and or unbelievers. Perhaps even the term Christian is a good term for them, because they believed in it because "their ancestors also adopted it"
            >It predates Christianity and it was evoked constantly in the Dark and Middle Ages into the Enlightenment as justification for the monarchies. Incorrect again.
            What is the evidence for this? Would you quote a papal bull?
            Literally, the people were protected against a coup by a minority.
            Democracy means people's rule, everything else was added to it only later by force. There was no king in Venice, the people ruled.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >The Catholic Church is the word of God, those who agitate and fight against it are non-Christians because they deny the word of God, they were heretics and or unbelievers.
            The pope disagrees with you though.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The secular forces occupied our papal state and now the only true medicine is national socialism, but this is not our topic tho

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Nice larp, ameribro.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Divine right is a protestant invention. Nothing to do with the Catholic Church. I suggest you do some studying of history before you go blabbering online.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No it isn't. It's been a thing since Egypt.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Among Christian rulers, yes, it is a protestant invention.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It was still evoked by Charlemagne and every European king post Constantine

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Divine right is a protestant invention
            Woah, I guess St. Thomas Aquinas was a Protestant cuck after all. So much for being the so -called "Doctor of the Church"

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Mocking the pope is based. If you want to make him a martyr for the freedom to mock authority figures as well as for science, go ahead. However, he was explicitly put on trial for his "heretical" teaching that earth orbits the sun, not for mocking the pope.
            https://douglasallchin.net/galileo/library/1616docs.htm

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Allah intervenes in his world.
      >Implying that YHWH doesn't

      >Cheering people killing themselves
      How very Christian of you.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ok, but why do you think the universe was created 6000 years ago and dinosaur bones were put in the ground to test your faith?

  4. 1 month ago
    Sage

    >30 posts in and this moron has already declared for National Socialism
    The mask slips. Weak bait

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >a world free from religion
    >reality
    Except in reality... we live in a religious world. So really, the image on the right shows "a world not free of religion". AFAIC atheism can only exist in a world where religion has a stronghold. Otherwise, if everyone is atheist, no one is really atheist (no one makes it their personality). Hell, most of the "my body my choice" shit comes from religious discourse so this image is just moronic tbdesu

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >it was the medieval Christian conception of God that contributed so much to scientific life
    Stopped reading right there. Idgaf what some harvard Black person says. The ancient pagans of europe were shitting out science like there was no tomorrow. Ancient greeks were heliocentric 2000 years ago and the church wanted to kill galileo for suggesting it. Ancient roman maps dunked on christian maps 100 times over. Hero of alexandria was a fricking maniac who invented a rudimentary use of steam power. Another pagan scientist during the roman empire accurately calculated the circumference of the the world usin 2 stick, their shadows, and trogonometry.
    The renaissance was the revival of pagan ideals and it brought europe out of the dark ages.
    Frick your israelite god, european people following european religions were objectively better.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >The ancient pagans of europe were shitting out science like there was no tomorrow.
      >Salamanders breathe fire

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Salamanders don't breathe fire moron that's dragons

        Salamanders have immunity to fire and secrete a toxic substance from star shaped marks on their backs

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >israelites walk on water and turn water into wine

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No, God does that.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >God is a israelite

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yes. 😀

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Separating science from religion is a grave, yet common intellectual error, but Christianity is still a meme.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >scientific knowledge began in medieval times
    >what is ancient Sumeria, Babylonia, Egypt, Greece, Persia, the Indus Valley and the area around the Yellow River

    Amazing how fedora theists are even dumber than the fedora atheists ever were

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    As a Christian, there's nothing wrong with 75% of the right part of your pic.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Eurasian admixture is european+middle eastern (arabic).
      Just so you know.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Alfred North Whitehead (English mathematician) in 1925 said at Harvard that it was the medieval Christian conception of God that contributed so much to scientific life.
    Oh, well, if Alfred North Whitehead (English mathematician) said it in 1925, then it must be true.

    >Why not the ancient Greeks? Because ultimately everything was attributed to their Gods. Why is planet "x" moving? Because it is moved by "y" God. So, of course, it couldn't have started here.
    Science DID develop under the ancient Greeks and the rediscovery of ancient Greek texts spurred on its development in the medieval Christian and Islamic worlds.

    >Why not the Islamic world? Because, according to them, Allah did not make a rational, self-functioning world. Allah intervenes in his world. They could not observe connections, because then they would have denied that Allah could have intervened in it at any time, that would be a sin.
    Now you're really reaching. For all purposes relevant here the Christian and Muslim Gods are identical. Christians also believed that God intervenes in the world.

    >Why not the Chinese? Because, as Joseph Needham said, they would have despised it. They simply weren't interested and wouldn't have gone because of their religious teachings.
    Premodern China made many scientific discoveries.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Why not the ancient Greeks? Because ultimately everything was attributed to their Gods.
    Do you not know the difference between mythologoi and physiologoi?

  13. 1 month ago
    Radiochan

    Probably because Christians act very anti science now, esp wrt evolutionary theory and modern genetics. I'm not sure if this is just prevalent among Christians in America, but there are notable """creationists""" from the UK and New Zealand.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Big creationism is a psyop pushed by people like Ben Stein. The point of it is for you to think there are only two options and not pursue the truth any further.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >my attempt at Christianizing science backfired so spectacularly that it was actually a giant conspiracy all along

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I named one of the unmentionables, I should have expected this response.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      what is a woman?

      • 1 month ago
        Radiochan

        Someone who fulfills the society role of woman, most women were assigned female at birth but some, like 1% of people, have gender dysphoria and the only medically recognized way to treat it is for the sufferers to transition to the societal role opposite of that expected of the sex assigned at birth.
        Buck Angel sure as hell isn't a woman.

        Big creationism is a psyop pushed by people like Ben Stein. The point of it is for you to think there are only two options and not pursue the truth any further.

        There's not really anything "there" to Creationism; for example, if Creationism were true, human teeth wouldn't be as fricked up as they are. It makes more sense for it to be the pressures of evolution.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          then what's the pointing to chopping their dicks off and stuffing them full of woman hormones if it's a social role?

          • 1 month ago
            Radiochan

            It's a bit more than that. Pretty much anything is a "social construction," but we live in a society etc.
            It's also not "chopping dicks off," it's "trying to fashion a neovegana."
            Female hormones also relieve gender dysphoria in m2fs due to it giving secondary sexual characteristics that women generally have such as breasts, smoother skin, etc. When medical intervention is done at pubescent age (usually 13) it enables the body to develop more as a pubescent woman would instead of that of a man, but things like hip growth can be had as late as 24.
            Pic related is Hunter Schafer, a "youngshit."

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Not a single thing you said has anything to do with your claim that being a woman is just a social role.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          you aren't a christian

          • 1 month ago
            Radiochan

            It's true, I'm not. However, I still live in the USA, which is a heavily Christian nation and Creationism is espoused by a very high segment of the population compared to Western Europe.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            isn't it funny how creationists know the basic biology of what a man and a woman are, and evolutionists don't?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Richard Dawkins is arguing that sex is binary and important. Those are still following a religion, the SJW religion.

          • 1 month ago
            Radiochan

            Except it's not really "basic biology," I gave a comparatively detailed sociological explanation informed by modern psychology.
            In addition to that, troonyism isn't a recent phenomenon by far,
            The image posted reflects drag culture, and a lot of it is just meant to shock the normies because drag shows are literally clown shows but supposed to be for an adult audience. Most drag performers are not trans.
            Also, on a sociological level, if you alienate a certain group of people, they're going to cross over to the people you lot claim to be your ideological and spiritual enemies.
            The US is very heavily Christian and Christianity hasn't faded away by far.

            Not a single thing you said has anything to do with your claim that being a woman is just a social role.

            It's true; it's also biological. Gender dysphoria is considered to be neurological in nature.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Except it's not really "basic biology,"
            yeah like how 2+2=4 isn't "basic math"
            didn't read the rest btw

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            So it's not a social role and you'll never be a real woman.

          • 1 month ago
            Radiochan

            Socially I am; turns out IRL people don't demand you take a cheek swab chromosomal test or grab your crotch to make sure you're a "real" woman.
            But I'm still Whiter than you are.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Socially, that makes you a crossdressing homosexual acting out your fetish in public.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why did science begin in western Europe rather than all the other parts of the world with Christian in them, and why did it take over a thousand years after Christianity was already mainstream?
    Christianity is not a single world view. There were multiple world views within Christianity, including versions of humanism.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why? Because Catholicism was a cult that was trying to destroy Biblical Christianity and failed, because of Christ's promises.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Religion is moronic. Any semi-conscious person soon realizes how stupid it is to study folklore and wish upon stars for change, but nontheless, relgion is undeniably valuable a tool.

    The masses are ugly, vile, and ignorant. They need a pen or Shepard to guide and correct them. Religion and family fulfilled this role for millenia, now with the abundant of these two pillars we have become witness to the disastrous consequences.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's a very costly larp

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