Why does technology cost so much?

Is it the raw materials? IP? talent? what will it take for tech to get cheaper

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it doesn't cost so much, you're just poor. you indian?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      worse, my cost of living is higher than an Indian

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        you're either indian, chinese, australian, south american, canadian, or european. am i right?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          you forgot one: American

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            you're definitely a third worlder

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            as if third worlders would care about lambda labs machines. Third worlders whine about not being able to afford a Mac mini, not a workstation

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      worse, my cost of living is higher than an Indian

      why threadrippers are needed for AI
      because its the GPU that does all the work

      I actually love the idea of using CPU but almost all AI platforms require GPU instead

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >why threadrippers are needed for AI
        >because its the GPU that does all the work
        The kind of workload you're gonna do on such a machine is going to involve a lot of compilation.
        Also, fast memory controllers

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          yeah but anyway the AI stuff itself comes from the GPU

          dunno how much the code compilation takes time on a typical 8 core CPU, a few minutes?
          on a threadripper same is done about 4x faster than in a normal home 8 core CPU

          but its still only 5% of the time while 95% of the time you are using GPU

          threadripper seems like unnecessary investment but if there is money to waste, why not

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Threadrippers have way more pcie lanes than ryzens, comes in useful with 4 gpus

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I was thinking of Intel 8-core CPU wihch will end up cheaper than some Ryzens

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    am I training skynet by answering dumb questions?

    yes its incredibly hard to make integrated circuits, it costs millions just to make a few thousand chips

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The most expensive part is always labor. You can have all the raw materials sitting around but if you can't figure out how to use them they're worthless. Someone has to actually do the thing. Learning how to do the thing takes a lot of training, so you need to be able to pay for the training to happen, or find someone who already did the training and pay them even more to work for you instead of someone else. If someone else wants them more and can pay them more, the price of getting the work done goes up. That is basic supply and demand, obviously, but midwits don't know what jobs are. They think value comes from material scarcity alone because they have never had a job or paid someone else to do a job.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How hard can it be to place the wafer in the magic laser box and press the "make chip" button?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Costs billions to build the factory, billions more to train the employees, and so on

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        even if litho were that easy the entire rest of the process is still hard and highly specialized

        have fun building clean rooms and growing pure silicon crystals, maybe you could to a 50mm wafer

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >magic
        The competency crisis is right here before our eyes and we're all going blind

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Anon, you only have to design it once. There's no limit to how many times you can build / use it once it's already been invented and refined.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Sure, and you can blow up the whole planet with sufficient amounts of coke and mentos.
            Glossing over the actual difficult parts is fine for a troll physics doodle but can't elucidate the economics of superconductor fabrication.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >superconductor
            Semiconductor.
            I'm so tired.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    DDR4?

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Specialty hardware in the 80s cost about the same amount inflation adjusted. You just have to wait a few decades for the price to come down.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_Onyx
    $250,000 super computer with a 250 MHz processor

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This, just wait 5 years and you'll be able to afford this computer. Wait 20 and you'll be able to afford the #1 supercomputer currently.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Things aren't advancing quite as fast as they were back when SGI was at its peak.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          you're right, they're advancing faster

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Read up on monopolies

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because nvidia has a 10x margin. Make fun of apple all you want but you can get more vram equivalent than that for less than 1/10th the price

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      how come Apple is able to get VRAM for so much cheaper? isn't it unified memory so worse?

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Only 83$?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Omelet du fromage

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Inflation, also NVIDIA has the whole market by the balls right now until something can disrupt them.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    thats a great price.
    a single a800 is >$20k.
    the amount of value you can extract from this thing, if you're not a moron you can make your money back in a year

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Is it the raw materials?
    No. Sand is cheap.
    >IP?
    Partially
    >what will it take for tech to get cheaper
    Just like meth, you want shit to be repeatable and of high purity. And that is a problem, hence we have shit like Celerons and 50 MHz Pentiums
    Other thing is monopoly.
    Consider STM32. There are bunch of clones, GD32, whatever ChinkPong32, all are ARM and all are compatible-ish with STM32. Hell, there are even Risc-V microcontrollers that are very similar to stm32.
    This is reason why STM32 is $4 a chip, and Szhenzhen clone is like $1 a piece. Competition.
    And computers? Intel vs AMD.... Nvidia vs AMD vs Intel(eeeh? idk about arc if it did fail)
    And okay, CPU is obvious, x86-64 is patented, copyrighted, while it is possible to make an x86 chip, amount of shekels you have to pay to those 2 scumbags is kinda sad... But with GPUs I have no fricking idea why. All it has to do is provide DirectX and OpenGL and Vulkan capabilities in driver.

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