why don't ISPs just block port 80 if they don't want us self-hosting on a residential network

why don't ISPs just block port 80 if they don't want us self-hosting on a residential network

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    many do

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why can't I selfhost on my own residential network?
    >it's for your own safety
    is not a reason

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why buy a business plan when you can use a residential one?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I work at an ISP, an many people do this. Works fine until shit hits the fan, then they call us for help, and we tell them, that it might take a few days before the.problem is fixed. Then they complain that X Y Z is gonna happen, and that they are going to lose a lot of money, and then we either tell them "too bad", ot give them the opportunity to pay is insane amounts to come fix it immediately.
        Legit had a farmer call us, and tell me he would have hundreds of thousands of dead chickens if his internet didnt return within a few hours. His AC was dependent on the fricking internet, and he didnt care to buy a business line lmao.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >His AC was dependent on the fricking internet,
          I hope he learned his lesson
          (I know he didn't.)

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >he would have hundreds of thousands of dead chickens if his internet didnt return within a few hours.
          This is some cyberpunk level of bullshit

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >AC was dependent on the fricking internet
          Absolute moron moment. Hope he learned his lesson.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >His AC was dependent on the fricking internet
          Forget buying a business line why would you ever do this in the first place and if for some reason so moronic you should be shot for mentioning it you have to buy that specific ac model HAS THIS Black person EVER HEARD OF REDUNDANCY?!

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what good would that do? anyone can just use another port

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      your service is dead if it uses a non standard port

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Some do
    I just use free oracle instances rather than exposing my home network

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      stop lying. literally no one has oracle free instances.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How do ports even work?

    Why can't I host in some port other than 80?

    Why can't I use port 666, and why must it be a "Doom-only" port?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      80 and 8080 are default for html traffic
      666 is for DOOM multiplayer traffic
      Its this simple

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you can use any port. if a program is strict about it, then it just means that the developer hardcoded the port that the client is expecting. i've always wondered how developers decided which port to be standard for things like minecraft servers

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Developers need to ask free port number from standardization agency. Unofficial port numbers are not good

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          so there's an actual organization enforcing that only minecraft servers can use port 25565?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There's a registry, but no one's stopping you from using any port you want to.
            https://www.iana.org/assignments/service-names-port-numbers/service-names-port-numbers.xhtml

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            microsoft hasn't bothered to register it still?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Because ports after a certain range are free to everyone an you can't register your own shit

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Oi m8 ye got a loicence for that port?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No they don't. Ports are literally just the Wild West.

          Ports less than 1000 are considered "privileged" but only because enough old programs decided to use low port numbers, and those older programs were often what became core "special" services like httpd and ssh, so Linux eventually decided to make them "privileged" and only root can bind to them.
          Outside of that weird historical quirk, you can host literally anything on anything. So when devs pick ports they're just picking funny numbers. Like Postgres is 5432. The only reason http/https "have" to be 80/443 is because browsers default to it and normies won't understand https://host:port/path. Also, for https, I don't think any CA will issue a cert for a hostname with a port number on it, and I am pretty sure the CN needs to include the port, though I don't know for sure because I've literally never tried it because nobody ever does it.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            STo add on to this, specifically ports 0 to 1023 have historical uses. Above that, any port up to 65535 is free game, but 8080 is common for an http test port.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you can use any port it's just that it can lead to security issues, conflicts etc

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      dumb frog, you can use any port you like
      >https://example.com:666

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why americans are this unfree

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lawsuit shooting gallery.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mine does, I have to use a VPS to route all my traffic to other ports

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >No, you aren't allowed to use port 80
    >ISP modem comes with preconfigured ports for gaming
    >Enable and use one of those game specific ports to use for accessing the webserver

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