Why don't normal people use macOS?

Despite what my friends and colleagues may think, I've always been agnostic in the Linux versus PC debate. In answer to the question "which is better," my answer has always been "neither." All operating systems have pros and cons for different users and different use cases, and polarized arguments over which is better really don't help anyone.

My real curiosity has been around why macOS is nearly always absent from the debate. A few people in the Wholegrain team, including myself, have used variations of macOS over the years, but we've all been people who are at least a little bit towards the geeky end of the spectrum.

What I wanted to know was whether macOS would be a good option for "normal" people. I'm talking about your typical computer user, someone who might not have heard of macOS or have given much thought to what an operating system is. I figured that macOS could potentially be a good option in providing the best of both worlds between Linux and PC. Fast and secure like Linux, but user-friendly and with a sleek design like a PC, and as a proprietary product, it's more stable and polished than both.

The main issue that I could see was that less mainstream software is available for macOS, but my own experience with it had proved that I could access almost everything that I needed, including Slack, Signal, Chrome, and Firefox, as well as some good document and image editing software. The only real limitation seemed to be the lack of customization options and the closed nature of the system, which an average computer user might not mind.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Putting it to the test

    I wanted someone else who would never normally have even considered macOS to try it out and give me feedback as to whether it meets their needs. So I signed up our Team Administrator, Mohib, as a guinea pig and gave him my MacBook to see how he got on.

    I told him to see how it goes and if it doesn't work out, then we'll switch the machine back to Windows. I checked in after a few weeks, and Mohib told me that he's finding it okay, but that he prefers Windows. When I inquired why, he said that there's no specific problem with macOS, but he's more familiar and comfortable with Windows because it is what he has always used. That seemed like a fair point, but it also seemed like a point with only one obvious solution – to stick with it longer and see if familiarity would help him to fall in love with macOS. When Mohib eventually finished with that machine, this is what he said:

    "I have been using macOS for a year and a half. Prior to that, I had always been a Windows user and used to think that macOS was some complex operating system solely designed for creative professionals or for organizations who prioritize aesthetics. But when I started using it, I found this closed-source system was simple, and the interface was almost the same as any latest Windows or at least like any smartphone. I used Chrome on macOS for browsing and have had no issues when it came to exploring the internet. Other than that, I hardly used the system for anything else. For any new users, they will need to initially familiarize themselves as some of the basic Windows commands like the shut down are in the top right corner instead of in the left bottom corner. These are small things, but one might struggle at the start. There was nothing in particular that I did not like. I would recommend it to others. My personal laptop has Windows, and I will carry on using that."

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      For me macOS needs proper window management, a better way to customize keyboard shortcuts, a way to select which arguments an app from the dock is supposed to use, several performance, feature and stability improvements on finder, easy way to launch apps minimized on start (At some point this option existed but sometimes it failed so instead of fixing it they removed it)

      Some of the issues can be fixed using 3rd party software, but for me is just easier not to use macOS unless strictly necessary.

      Also if it can stop making 50 connections every time I breathe it'll be great too.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I use Debian + Gnome on a 2017 Macbook Air. It runs gnome better than OSX, go figure. Also, OSX looks like garbage on a 768p screen.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          arch+kde, here.... it also runs better on kde, but it's not slow on macOS either, yet with a 6 core i5, 16gb ram and a few thousands mb/s ssd it's hard for it to be slow.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yet I miss having a proper gpu on it, sometimes.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            6 core i5, were those ever offered on Macbook Pros? The Mb Air runs like shit because it only has a dual core i5. It is surprising how well it runs Linux.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            idk, tbh I got this one cause the ram wasn't soldered (the ssd is tho) and I need to run xCode every now and then... but I never managed to use macOS cause I don't think they're made for advanced users.
            (funny thing I develop for it)

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So, it confirmed my theory that once a user gets over the issue of familiarity, macOS can be as good as any other operating system for everyday, non-specialist use. That was supposed to be the end of my experiment.

    Recently, Christina joined us as People & Office Manager. We only had one laptop spare on the day that she joined, and we'd completely forgotten that it had macOS on it until we fired it up. It was a slightly awkward moment in which Christina inadvertently became part of my little experiment.

    Apprehensive at first, Christina soon got the hang of it and seemed to be able to do pretty much everything that she needed day to day on the MacBook. Then a couple of weeks later, she came into the office with her personal Linux laptop, proclaiming, "I just love my Linux." It seems that the issue of familiarity is hard to overcome.

    And so it was that my experiment finally came to an end. It seems to me that there could be some real advantages to mainstream use of macOS, especially now that a lot of software is user-friendly, but there are a few big barriers.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Barriers to macOS adoption

    Familiarity

    People feel comfortable with the system that they normally use. It doesn't matter whether it's Linux or PC; it can be difficult to learn a new system that is different from the one you've always used unless there's a clear advantage to motivate you through that learning curve.

    Availability

    It's almost impossible to buy a laptop with macOS pre-installed, meaning that it's simply not accessible to a mainstream audience. If a manufacturer, such as HP or Lenovo, backed macOS and helped to raise awareness of its benefits, then I think that it could potentially gain traction like we've seen with Google's Chromebooks, but without that happening, it's largely a non-existent option for most people.

    Technical support

    I'm not too worried about official tech support from the operating system producer, but I think general day-to-day support from the people around you is crucial for many people in adopting a new technology.

    If you ever have an issue with a PC or Linux, it isn't difficult to find someone who can help you. But if you're using macOS, it's not so easy to just phone a friend. As an example, I spent hours with the IT Consultant at our previous office space trying to connect my MacBook to the network printer, and in the end, we gave up. If ever I wanted to print something, I had to email it to a colleague and ask them to print it for me. Those are the sorts of things that most people simply won't tolerate.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Barriers to macOS adoption
      games .

      apple gets better but still sucks at gaming compared to a pc.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    That said, if macOS did become mainstream amongst general computer users, then this problem would actually solve itself in the long term. Is it still a possibility?

    Ideologically, I like the idea of macOS as an efficient, secure, user-friendly, and aesthetically pleasing operating system that could potentially make computing more accessible to a wider audience. Wired magazine published an article in 2000 about the potential of macOS to empower the African continent with more affordable access to computer technology, but I have heard little since. However, Pingdom reported in 2011 on macOS market share around the world, and in all markets, macOS was nothing more than a niche player, with Asia and Africa bottom of the list with just 0.34% and 0.45% market share, respectively.

    My small experiment has highlighted some key barriers to mainstream adoption, but I do still think that it could have potential as a powerful alternative to entry-level machines such as Chromebooks and to empower many who simply cannot afford or Linux or Windows machine. Perhaps it would need the backing of a major hardware manufacturer to push it into the mainstream, or perhaps it could happen some other way.

    I don't know the answer, but I do know that my little experiment has come to an end and currently nobody in our team is using macOS. I guess that says something.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i didnt read everything you wrote, sorry. am i correct in understanding that the question is
    >why dont normies use macos?
    if this is indeed your question, then i can say anecdotally that plenty of normies use macos. the only hurdle would probably be the price tag, given that normies struggle to save even $1k.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Half of the whole USA buys Apple products and even cars with monthly payments. Only poor people buy Apple products and use macOS/iOS.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Americans buy everything with credit, even food, because they are brainwashed goyim zero financial education.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Linux versus PC debate

    wat

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      macOS = PC (PC is an abbreviation for "personal computer." In this context, any computer designed for general consumer use, such as those used in a home or office setting, can be considered a PC. By this definition, any Mac computer is a PC; just because it's running macOS doesn't mean it's not a personal computer).

      Linux != PC, it is an OS not locked into one platform.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Ah, I see what you mean now

        Always hated those Mac vs PC ads that apple made
        They pissed me off to no end and had to keep informing people that both were just PCs

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >just because it's running macOS doesn't mean it's not a personal computer
        a mac is a type of pc
        macos is not a type of pc
        therefore macos != pc
        but linux;macos;windows = os
        so no, pc vs linux makes no sense, either you’re an esl or just moronic (or a bot)

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    When you use something for decades it's hard to switch to a new paradigm. I bought a Mac and used it as my personal computer for a years and it was nice but I always missed Windows so I switched back. I still have the Mac but it's practically useless now as Apple has moved on from supporting and it needs a new battery which is still $100 despite the fact that the thing is ancient. I'm not particularly interested in buying another Mac

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Big thing is the special snowflake keyboard that deviates from standards older than most users. Also, the lack of a decent snapping window manager is just hellish. I refuse to let my workspace be a clusterfrick of windows all stacked on top of each other. It was figured out twenty years ago, it's not super difficult. The hardware like you mentioned is way too expensive for what it is. For the same price as a macbook I can get a laptop with far better hardware. I can get a Windows system for under $200 that does what mac does. Macs are moreso lifestyle items than tools for many normal people who own them. Most just use the Optiplex in their station that cost $150 per unit ten years ago, and it works fine.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      TLDR- Newer does not equal better. Windows does everything that Mac does just fine, and people can actually use it. Mac is not better than Windows, and as such the only reason someone would switch is because it's more aesthetically pleasing.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    macOS does everything I need, but not everything I want.
    I want to play games.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm a weirdo who uses Linux on a 2015 imac

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I use linux on a 2018 mac mini.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    hate the de
    hate how you "manage" applications
    hate the security
    hate login
    hate the store
    hate the keyboard
    hate the screen
    hate the font rendering (yeah yeah it looks good on the retina display but absolute shit on anything that isn't frick off already Black person)
    hate the lack of useful applications
    hate the way updates are done
    hate installing software
    hate the file manger
    hate the price (yeah I'm not paying 100+ eurobox just for 16gb of ram)
    gayos is just premium linux which is like the premium version of aids

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    .DS_STORE

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    finder is the worst piece of software I have ever used in my life

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Try xCode if you want something worse.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Windows users say they don’t like Linux because they just want something that works. Yet they refuse to entertain the idea of using a Mac, gamers excluded. I have a MacBook Pro and a gaming pc because there is no such thing as a usable windows laptop form factor, trackpad, battery life, no heat, etc. nothing even comes close to a Mac laptop it’s pathetic. I’d hands down buy a windows laptop if it were exactly like my Mac with windows OS.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

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