Why dont Protestants care that the Catholic Church is the one and only chance Christendom has for visible unity?

Why don’t Protestants care that the Catholic Church is the one and only chance Christendom has for visible unity? Don’t they think that the unique visible Christian community is something worth holding onto? Strongest argument for historic Catholicism imo.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Way too many hurdles for them, too many thing to be explained for most to not lose patience.
    But even then, most evangelicals don't care about unity anyways. They create conspiracy theories about it, even though it's what Christ himself prayed for his disciples at the Last Supper. Older Protestants care about unity, but they're barely Christian half of the time. They mistake Americanism and democracy for Christianity. A lot of modern liberal platitudes. There's nothing to unify with them over.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I do. I want the whole church United again. I just don't want to stop going to my church with my family and people I love.

      Many Evangelicals are a lost cause fren. Has been that way for 10+ years now at least. It's an Apocalyptic cult for money laundering and fear grifting.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Many, having created Liberalism (i.e., Satanism) itself, if at least in the spirit of perfect allegiance, are too much invested in its first principles, finding only offense at submission to not only dogma and a seemingly human institution, but also a man too, the Pope. What horror at one's hubris would this be. Many are too fearful of things that escape their simple understanding by years of propaganda. Some are too comfortable and cannot bear the social consequences that could constitute betrayal. Those humble and brave enough to submit likely never encounter the Church in any meaningful way, which is why you should never shy at pushing the topic upon others. I became a Catholic when one told me outright that I was wrong, and after researching it, I quickly could see the entire Protestant movement had as its chief architect not God but Satan.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Note how beautiful and elevated the Lord's relationship to the Father is, and how likewise the Lord's simple request that all His children should be as He and the Father are, as One, radiates. Wouldn't you want to please the little Lamb?

      >My prayer is not for them (the Apostles) alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one— I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Many, having created Liberalism (i.e., Satanism) itself
      This is autistic and you need to touch grass. As a catholic I detest liberalism, but to say liberalism is literal Satanism is not only theologically incorrect and something you aren’t in a position of spiritual authority to do, but it also undermines the gospel. Even the cringe get to go to heaven through Christ. You are placing having the correct political opinions as a matter of soteriology, which ironically is something liberals tend to do.
      >if at least in the spirit of perfect allegiance, are too much invested in its first principles, finding only offense at submission to not only dogma and a seemingly human institution, but also a man too, the Pope. What horror at one's hubris would this be.
      Tbh this reads like a Reddit post. You radiate smugness.
      >Many are too fearful of things that escape their simple understanding by years of propaganda.
      I agree there is so much a-historical material attacking the papacy. Both form the Liberals and the LARP-right.
      >Some are too comfortable and cannot bear the social consequences that could constitute betrayal. Those humble and brave enough to submit likely never encounter the Church in any meaningful way, which is why you should never shy at pushing the topic upon others. I became a Catholic when one told me outright that I was wrong, and after researching it, I quickly could see the entire Protestant movement had as its chief architect not God but Satan.
      The more I research it the more I have sympath for, but still disagree with Protestants. The chief architect of the sectarian violence was Satan, but the critique they raised at the time were a medicine for the Catholic Church needed for the Counter-Reformation.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What do you think about gays

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >What do you think about gays
          1) Gays is a made-up term.
          2) repentant and reformed, repentant and struggling, or completely unreprentant?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >repentant and reformed, repentant and fighting, or completely unrepentant?
            I knew you would say that haha. Catholics give a lot of morals to celibate gays

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >If you distinguish between those repentant and unrepentant that means you celebrate gays.
            Read the Bible homosexual

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yes. you celebrate.
            and he's so moronic that he doesn't realize that it's only the catechism that chaste and based gays talk about, not the Bible

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I didn't mean Liberalism as often used by some on the Right, but what has become the predominate religion of the West. And my claim is that many so-called Christians are Liberals first, and only nominally Christian. Consider how many love characters such as Ayn Rand, who is a two-bit, third-rate Nietzsche, or who equate the American constitution with any Gospel. The Will to Power is at the heart of the liberal project, and if you can't see the Satanism inherent, then I don't know what to tell ya.

        I do agree that it maybe is too bold, but someone has to do it, and I only mean that this spirit possesses only some Protestants, certainly not all.

        >The only freedom which deserves the name, is that of pursuing our own good in our own way, so long as we do not attempt to deprive others of theirs, or impede their efforts to obtain it. Each is the proper guardian of his own health, whether bodily, or mental and spiritual. Mankind are greater gainers by suffering each other to live as seems good to themselves, than by compelling each to live as seems good to the rest. - John Stuart Mill

        >Do what thou wilt, that is the whole of the law. - Aleister Crowley

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >I didn't mean Liberalism as often used by some on the Right, but what has become the predominate religion of the West.
          Thanks for clarifying.
          The theology of state liberalism in the west is a absurd mixture of atheism denying that is the offical state religion, support for every religion but Christianity (or paganism I guess, I’ve never seen a liberal state promote European Paganism) and self worship in the style of Rand.
          >And my claim is that many so-called Christians are Liberals first
          Agreed. Sadly I find this isn’t only Protestant. Plenty of Catholics, OO & EO will live reprobate lives in accordance with what they accept politically.
          And you also get reverse where TradLARPers make reactionary thought their ideal and end up adopting unbiblical idea just because they seem more “traditional”. An example would be this dipshit (

          >repentant and reformed, repentant and fighting, or completely unrepentant?
          I knew you would say that haha. Catholics give a lot of morals to celibate gays

          ) denying peoples ability to repent and work toward no longer sinning.
          >Consider how many love characters such as Ayn Rand
          Ayn Rand was a LARPer who completely failed to understand Stirner, and objectivism was anything but objective. >who equate the American constitution with any Gospel.
          Absolutely, though I find that more with muttmerican conservatives than liberals.
          >The Will to Power is at the heart of the liberal project, and if you can't see the Satanism inherent, then I don't know what to tell ya.
          In the future you can just say relativism and you will run into less issues. It much more accurately describes you idea of the individual willing their own truth.

          >Do what thou wilt, that is the whole of the law. - Aleister Crowley
          Yep pretty much. That relativism in a nutshell. It feels good to me, it must be good. A complete rejection of objective truth.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't like the office of the pope, you guys are a little to into Mary, and the Catholic church has too many pedo priests.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it is a shame!
    Attacks on the Catholic church are very common and involve many lies, especially about the past.
    I hope you Catholics can refute all of this, when I was Catholic I had to deal with the same kind of thing all the time

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      become catholic again rart

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Why do you value the content of your religion more than aesthetic larp?
    Unfricking believable. He doesn't even understand how dumb this question is.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >the content
      Does the content not include or entail visible unity?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No. The papist church surrendered unity of faith and the faith(the content) for shallow visible unity.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Christianity is brown.
    Most christians are brown.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why don’t Catholics care that the Orthodox Church is the one and only chance Christendom has for visible unity? Don’t they think that the unique visible Christian community is something worth holding onto? Strongest argument for historic Orthodoxy imo.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Why don’t Protestants care that the Catholic Church is the one and only chance Christendom has for visible unity?
    Lmao, Catholicism says non-Catholics go to hell. Protestantism says you can be saved by genuine faith in Jesus, you don't need to be in a specific church organisation.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Where does it say that in the Bible?

    God gave me reasoning faculties and I have deduced that there are problems with excessive centralization, if the kingpin makes a mistake, the whole system follows. It seems more logical that we have a church for each country, the way the Anglican and Orthodox churches do it, the Church of Nigeria for example can reject certain erroneous rulings of the Church of England.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Why don’t Protestants care that the Catholic Church is the one and only chance Christendom has for visible unity?
    >Christendom
    >unity
    Didn't the entirety of the Orthodox world break communion with the Vatican like, a month ago?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They haven't been in communion w/ the Vatican since the 1000s though right?

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Unity is the one world religion spoken of in Revelations. It's a very silly argument anyways, it's no different than peer pressure, which I guess is the point.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > Unity is the one world religion spoken of in Revelations
      Where?
      > It's a very silly argument anyways
      Didn’t Jesus pray for his followers to be one and have unity?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You ask "where" like you know nothing about the Bible. If you were simply ignorant and trying to learn, you wouldn't simultaneously be arguing for this or that in good faith.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          > You ask "where" like you know nothing about the Bible
          Just say where anon, I am implying it’s either not there or your interpretation of what is there is wrong.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The Catholic Church isn't Christian though. You might as well be talking about the Mormon church.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What church are you then?
      State your denomination like a man, or get saged like a dog.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        antenicenian

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Cringe

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          State what Church you attend like a man.
          I don’t need a specific location but you can state;
          An Anabaptist church (Mennonite or Apostolic)
          A home church (LARPers)
          An Assyrian Church
          Etc.
          If you can’t I will have to conclude that you aren’t actually a Christian and you are just LARPing in an attempt to call division, because Christ calls us to be open about our faith.
          1 Peter 3:15
          Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have.
          And it wouldn’t be the first time a Reddit atheist LARPed as a antenicenian/Early Church Christian online.

          • 1 month ago
            sage

            Matthew 7:6

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >don’t give sacraments to none believers
            >therefore I’m under no obligation to be honest about my beliefs and I can conceal the supposed “truth” and Church I believe in
            Twisting scripture is a mortal sin. Tho You most likely aren’t even Christian and are just a atheist LARPing.

            My Protestant church which has unity of faith and joining the “Roman Catholic” church which does not have unity of faith.

            Thanks for clarifying.
            I wasn’t attacking you I just wanted to know. I will agree that the Catholic Church and mostly major denominations have internal divisions and there is often a lack of consistent communication of the gospel.

            An antenicenian church

            Pathetic. Come back when you are able and willing to act like a Christian.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Come back when you are able and willing to act like a Christian
            Let it be known that this man just declared Hippolytus, Ireneaus, Justin Martyr, and every pre-4th century Christian all non-Christians and pathetic.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Let it be known that this man just declared Hippolytus, Ireneaus, Justin Martyr, and every pre-4th century Christian all non-Christians
            Now you are Bearing false witness. Unsurprising an atheoid would fall to such lows.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            An antenicenian church

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >What church are you then?
        Denomination means division. I'm in the same church Justin Martyr was. The same one Hippolytus here was too. Doesn't look like your church, does it?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Denominations were invented by Protestants..
          >pic
          If you see an old lady being raped on the street will you fight the assailant?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Denominations were invented by Protestants
            The Roman Catholic denomination was created by Constantine and shaped by Augustine in the mid-fourth century. It even says Roman in the name. That's where it started. And it has little to do with the original church, otherwise it would agree with the original church on fundamental doctrine. Which it doesn't.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Orthodox and even Orientals venerate Constantine as a Saint, the entire pre-denominational Great Church did. There ended up being schismatics but no denominations til Protestants came around. Stay coping.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The Catholic Church was busy killing anybody that disagreed with them. The actual church has existed through the ages, persecuted by both protestants and agustinians. You just label them heretics.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, sure, it’s all a grand conspiracy.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The Catholic church who they dub heretics very well documented. And all organizations plan together. When the supermarket puts out their sale ad do you think it's conspiracy? No they just have meetings and decide how to go about business. In the case of the Catholic Church, that was to kill anybody that disagreed with them.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            that does appear to be the case

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            He isn’t a Christian anon.
            It’s an atheist LARPing as an “early Christian” it’s why he will never state what church he actually goes to because it’s a LARP. He will just say every denomination it’s the real church to creat division.
            You can just chase him off by asking him what church he goes to and he will run away.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >He isn’t a Christian anon.
            >It’s an atheist LARPing as an “early Christian” it’s why he will never state what church he actually goes to because it’s a LARP.
            I see you have broken one of God's pinnacle commandments of not bearing false witness. It's irrelevant to you. You have a hobby, not a faith. Otherwise you would be in fear of the judgment right now.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >I see you have broken one of God's pinnacle commandments of not bearing false witness.
            I see you have broken one of God's pinnacle commandments of not bearing false witness (see

            >Come back when you are able and willing to act like a Christian
            Let it be known that this man just declared Hippolytus, Ireneaus, Justin Martyr, and every pre-4th century Christian all non-Christians and pathetic.

            )
            And now you are also committing the sin of hypocrisy.
            Utterly demonic behaviour from you. I hope God will turn your heart of stone to a heart of flesh that you will come to regret your sins in this thread.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          HAHAHAHAHAHHHHAHAHA
          AHAHAHAHHHAHAHAH
          I haven’t seen this meme-tier position in a while.

          This fake position is based off a quote attributed to Hippolytus (and occasionally Justin Martyr) that states "If an Applicant or a believer seeks to become a solider he must be rejected, for he has despised God."
          The quote is taken by the heretic/Reddit atheist and used to justify that all of the Apostolic Churches, Holy Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox & Assyrian Church of the East, are all heretical churches because they don't teach strict pacifism and professional soldiers to be members of the church.

          1. You believe in apostolic succession, otherwise Hippolytus' words bear no weight for the faithful. Hippolytus' authority is based on the fact he is a church father (apostolic succession).
          2. You reject apostolic succession otherwise the Pope and the Ancient Patriarchs are well within their right to allow professional soldiers to be members of the church. The opinion of a Church Father while a excellent sauce of wisdom is not inherently infallible or binding.

          >INB4 you are saying that Hippolytus is lying and thus not a Saint.
          The heretic is hoping for a GOTCHA moment here, luckly this can easily be refuted by the fact the the the heretic/Reddit atheoid has divorced Hippolytus' words from all context in which it was written. Hippolytus died in the year of Our Lord 235, Justin Martyr died in the year of Our Lord 165. Armenia was the first state to adopt Christianity as its official religion in the year of Our Lord 301 and Rome was still a Pagan Empire, only making Christianity legal in the year of Our Lord 313 with the Edict of Milan. Both Fathers wrote in a time where there were no christian states, no christian military.
          Hippolytus didn't know what he didn't know and all church fathers didn't perfectly agree, nor was everything they said binding. That is why we have The Church and apostolic succession.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            His entire church was in universal agreement with him. This is because that's what Jesus taught. It's very straightforward.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >His entire church
            It’s Jesus’ church you redditor.
            >was in universal agreement with him.
            Citation needed.

            https://i.imgur.com/Z4wq8Bv.jpg

            You seem to be implying this is a fake quote too, from Hippolytus' work, Aposolistic Tradition. Here's the citation and the entire context. I know this doesn't matter to you in the least, and you'll just continue stating lies. But for anybody else that's interested.

            >You seem to be implying this is a fake quote too
            I at no point said that.
            In fact I addressed it in the same post You are responding to.
            (

            https://i.imgur.com/LphuUhx.png

            HAHAHAHAHAHHHHAHAHA
            AHAHAHAHHHAHAHAH
            I haven’t seen this meme-tier position in a while.

            This fake position is based off a quote attributed to Hippolytus (and occasionally Justin Martyr) that states "If an Applicant or a believer seeks to become a solider he must be rejected, for he has despised God."
            The quote is taken by the heretic/Reddit atheist and used to justify that all of the Apostolic Churches, Holy Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox & Assyrian Church of the East, are all heretical churches because they don't teach strict pacifism and professional soldiers to be members of the church.

            1. You believe in apostolic succession, otherwise Hippolytus' words bear no weight for the faithful. Hippolytus' authority is based on the fact he is a church father (apostolic succession).
            2. You reject apostolic succession otherwise the Pope and the Ancient Patriarchs are well within their right to allow professional soldiers to be members of the church. The opinion of a Church Father while a excellent sauce of wisdom is not inherently infallible or binding.

            >INB4 you are saying that Hippolytus is lying and thus not a Saint.
            The heretic is hoping for a GOTCHA moment here, luckly this can easily be refuted by the fact the the the heretic/Reddit atheoid has divorced Hippolytus' words from all context in which it was written. Hippolytus died in the year of Our Lord 235, Justin Martyr died in the year of Our Lord 165. Armenia was the first state to adopt Christianity as its official religion in the year of Our Lord 301 and Rome was still a Pagan Empire, only making Christianity legal in the year of Our Lord 313 with the Edict of Milan. Both Fathers wrote in a time where there were no christian states, no christian military.
            Hippolytus didn't know what he didn't know and all church fathers didn't perfectly agree, nor was everything they said binding. That is why we have The Church and apostolic succession.

            )
            >INB4 you are saying that Hippolytus is lying and thus not a Saint.
            Next time read the post you are responding to.

            >from Hippolytus' work, Aposolistic Tradition.
            You don’t understand how Apostlic tradition works. See (

            https://i.imgur.com/LphuUhx.png

            HAHAHAHAHAHHHHAHAHA
            AHAHAHAHHHAHAHAH
            I haven’t seen this meme-tier position in a while.

            This fake position is based off a quote attributed to Hippolytus (and occasionally Justin Martyr) that states "If an Applicant or a believer seeks to become a solider he must be rejected, for he has despised God."
            The quote is taken by the heretic/Reddit atheist and used to justify that all of the Apostolic Churches, Holy Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox & Assyrian Church of the East, are all heretical churches because they don't teach strict pacifism and professional soldiers to be members of the church.

            1. You believe in apostolic succession, otherwise Hippolytus' words bear no weight for the faithful. Hippolytus' authority is based on the fact he is a church father (apostolic succession).
            2. You reject apostolic succession otherwise the Pope and the Ancient Patriarchs are well within their right to allow professional soldiers to be members of the church. The opinion of a Church Father while a excellent sauce of wisdom is not inherently infallible or binding.

            >INB4 you are saying that Hippolytus is lying and thus not a Saint.
            The heretic is hoping for a GOTCHA moment here, luckly this can easily be refuted by the fact the the the heretic/Reddit atheoid has divorced Hippolytus' words from all context in which it was written. Hippolytus died in the year of Our Lord 235, Justin Martyr died in the year of Our Lord 165. Armenia was the first state to adopt Christianity as its official religion in the year of Our Lord 301 and Rome was still a Pagan Empire, only making Christianity legal in the year of Our Lord 313 with the Edict of Milan. Both Fathers wrote in a time where there were no christian states, no christian military.
            Hippolytus didn't know what he didn't know and all church fathers didn't perfectly agree, nor was everything they said binding. That is why we have The Church and apostolic succession.

            )
            Yes or no, is everything a church father writes infallible?
            Yes or no will suffice.
            >Here's the citation and the entire context.
            I’ve read it.
            I’ve refuted you every time we have done this dance.
            See (

            https://i.imgur.com/LphuUhx.png

            HAHAHAHAHAHHHHAHAHA
            AHAHAHAHHHAHAHAH
            I haven’t seen this meme-tier position in a while.

            This fake position is based off a quote attributed to Hippolytus (and occasionally Justin Martyr) that states "If an Applicant or a believer seeks to become a solider he must be rejected, for he has despised God."
            The quote is taken by the heretic/Reddit atheist and used to justify that all of the Apostolic Churches, Holy Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox & Assyrian Church of the East, are all heretical churches because they don't teach strict pacifism and professional soldiers to be members of the church.

            1. You believe in apostolic succession, otherwise Hippolytus' words bear no weight for the faithful. Hippolytus' authority is based on the fact he is a church father (apostolic succession).
            2. You reject apostolic succession otherwise the Pope and the Ancient Patriarchs are well within their right to allow professional soldiers to be members of the church. The opinion of a Church Father while a excellent sauce of wisdom is not inherently infallible or binding.

            >INB4 you are saying that Hippolytus is lying and thus not a Saint.
            The heretic is hoping for a GOTCHA moment here, luckly this can easily be refuted by the fact the the the heretic/Reddit atheoid has divorced Hippolytus' words from all context in which it was written. Hippolytus died in the year of Our Lord 235, Justin Martyr died in the year of Our Lord 165. Armenia was the first state to adopt Christianity as its official religion in the year of Our Lord 301 and Rome was still a Pagan Empire, only making Christianity legal in the year of Our Lord 313 with the Edict of Milan. Both Fathers wrote in a time where there were no christian states, no christian military.
            Hippolytus didn't know what he didn't know and all church fathers didn't perfectly agree, nor was everything they said binding. That is why we have The Church and apostolic succession.

            )

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You seem to be implying this is a fake quote too, from Hippolytus' work, Aposolistic Tradition. Here's the citation and the entire context. I know this doesn't matter to you in the least, and you'll just continue stating lies. But for anybody else that's interested.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Both Fathers wrote in a time where there were no christian states, no christian military.
            So are soldiers in non-Christian states banned from the church?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >So are soldiers in non-Christian states banned from the church?
            I would say yes.
            I don’t think a Nork Solider can be a Christian.
            You also still have yet to address the fact that only 1 father said that and you are reading it into 2nd church fathers writing.
            So I will again repost the question you dodged (

            https://i.imgur.com/IVqM140.png

            >His entire church
            It’s Jesus’ church you redditor.
            >was in universal agreement with him.
            Citation needed.

            [...]
            >You seem to be implying this is a fake quote too
            I at no point said that.
            In fact I addressed it in the same post You are responding to.
            ([...])
            >INB4 you are saying that Hippolytus is lying and thus not a Saint.
            Next time read the post you are responding to.

            >from Hippolytus' work, Aposolistic Tradition.
            You don’t understand how Apostlic tradition works. See ([...])
            Yes or no, is everything a church father writes infallible?
            Yes or no will suffice.
            >Here's the citation and the entire context.
            I’ve read it.
            I’ve refuted you every time we have done this dance.
            See ([...])

            )
            Is everything a church father writes infallible?
            Yes or no will suffice.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not whoever you're talking to, I'm just curious. What about soldiers in countries that have no official state religion, like the United States? Or about soldiers in countries where the state religion isn't Christianity. Would an Algerian soldier be turned away from the church?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >I'm just curious. What about soldiers in countries that have no official state religion, like the United States?
            That didn’t really exist in the time of the early church so that would be something for whatever your current hierarchy is to decide.
            >Or about soldiers in countries where the state religion isn't Christianity.
            As in their is an offical state religion and that religion isn’t Christianity? Like Jordan? In that case no, people probably shouldn’t be part of the Jordan army.
            However, it’s still different because countries like Jordan or Lebanon don’t actively persecute Christians like the Roman Empire did, which is the situation they were writing in.
            No one should be serving in an army of a country actively engaged in an attempt to exterminate Christians, be it Rome, The Soviets or Russian Empire during its genocide of the Old Belivers.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/HM4x3js.png

          His entire church was in universal agreement with him. This is because that's what Jesus taught. It's very straightforward.

          https://i.imgur.com/Z4wq8Bv.jpg

          You seem to be implying this is a fake quote too, from Hippolytus' work, Aposolistic Tradition. Here's the citation and the entire context. I know this doesn't matter to you in the least, and you'll just continue stating lies. But for anybody else that's interested.

          >Come back when you are able and willing to act like a Christian
          Let it be known that this man just declared Hippolytus, Ireneaus, Justin Martyr, and every pre-4th century Christian all non-Christians and pathetic.

          >He isn’t a Christian anon.
          >It’s an atheist LARPing as an “early Christian” it’s why he will never state what church he actually goes to because it’s a LARP.
          I see you have broken one of God's pinnacle commandments of not bearing false witness. It's irrelevant to you. You have a hobby, not a faith. Otherwise you would be in fear of the judgment right now.

          You stand exposed, not only as a faithless LARPer unable to state what church you attend (because you attend none) but also as a liar and hypocrites.
          Your Hippolytus/Justin Martyr Onlyist meme lies dead.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Didn’t the Papal Church compile and canonize the books of the Bible?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Didn’t the Papal Church compile and canonize the books of the Bible?
        No they just rubber stamped what was already known. We know Cannon based on what the first and second century Church cited.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >visible
    Ironic considering they have all turned their backs on the children of God and stabbed out their own eyes.

    Some things were forgotten that should not have been lost.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >No church unity without unity of faith

    >“I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.” - 1 Cor. 1:10
    Why would I leave a church that has unity of faith and join one that does not?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > Why would I leave a church that has unity of faith and join one that does not?
      Which 2 Churches are you referring to here?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        My Protestant church which has unity of faith and joining the “Roman Catholic” church which does not have unity of faith.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          > My Protestant church which has unity of faith and joining the “Roman Catholic” church which does not have unity of faith.
          ???

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Does everyone in the Roman church recite the same creeds? Or are united on things like morals and ethics.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The Catholic Church has a unity of faith and belief among its members expressed through the recitation of the same creeds and the adherence to common moral and ethical teachings, correct

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yes because if you spoke out against the Catholic Church you would be tortured and killed. Those dynamics create unity in anything.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Nope you are mistaken. The Eastern Catholics recite Nicene creed without the Filioque. Whereas everyone all over the globe in my church body recites the same creed. Regarding morals and ethics you are mistaken again. It is a fact that James Martin, Joe Biden, Cardinal Hollerique, Cardinal Marx, and so many other Cardinals can confess unity and faith with men as Taylor Marshall, bishop Athanasius Schneider and Edward Faser shows there is no moral or ethical unity. is the product of centuries of ecclesiological regressions. That the same church body can be home to LGBTQ+ Masses and Tridentine Masses shows that Rome sacrificed the faith in favor of institutional visible unity. Whereas there is unity on morals and ethics in my prot church. There are no figures like James Martin in the church pushing for heretical things.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Your Prot church may be united internally, it isn’t universal nor is it united with the universal church though

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Cope. It is universal.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The ECLA and Missouri Synod are not united. The ACNA and the Church of England are not united. The PCUSA and Orthodox Presbyterians aren't united.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Do you know the history of any of the churches. The ELCA were kicked out of the Missouri synod for being heretics. They reject the Bible and the Lutheran confession. It is obvious to anyone that knows what they are talking about that you don’t want unity with heretics that reject the Bible and the confession. The Bible is very clear on this. The Roman church has more unity with the ELCA, Church of England and the PCUSA than the confessional prot counterparts. The Roman church has signed joint declarations or done ecumenical services with them.
            The LCMS for example is united with the AALC, the Lutheran church of Canada, the archbishop of Latvia, and all other churches in the International Lutheran council.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Just some advice from a Christian brother. I don’t think you are steelmanning catholics so your critique seems low IQ (I will similarly critique the other guy).
            >The Eastern Catholics recite Nicene creed without the Filioque.
            And?…….
            That is entirely irrelevant to salvation. Both Eastern and Western Catholics acknowledge each other’s theology as permissible and rooted in The Truth of the Christian faith.
            Minor differences are irrelevant, where there is uncertainty allow diversity.

            Your Prot church may be united internally, it isn’t universal nor is it united with the universal church though

            You should steelman prots. I get where you are coming from as a catholic, but most prots do believe in THE universal church they just don’t believe it’s limited to a single institution. There is still 1 church. They just don’t put the extra ecclisum nulla salva parameters on it.
            Most baptists think Lutherans are saved.
            Most Lutherans think baptists and calvanists are saved etc.
            He most likely holds his church to be part of The Church, and his parish to be United internally to their traditions.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >And?
            I appreciate your charity. If you would take a look at Op and what I said that that started this(

            >No church unity without unity of faith

            >“I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.” - 1 Cor. 1:10
            Why would I leave a church that has unity of faith and join one that does not?

            )
            This thread is about church unity and what that means especially about the Roman church not salvation. The differences are demonstrable still despite salvation. They recite a different creed, venerate heretic saints, reject/doubt Roman councils and are only in communion for political reasons. This points toward a lack of unity of faith and only shallow jurisdictional unity that is a result of a long history ecclesiastical regressions.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    too many dark coloured thurdies who are not interested in unification but wanna sneak any chance for sex just to produce one more of their kind into this hell world

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Let's take your word for it and say Jesus literally meant "This guy Peter here is supreme ruler of the Church while I'm away, he's totally in charge and all of you should follow his orders."
    Alright then. So I'm just supposed to accept without question this guy in Romes claim to be Peters successor? Peter wasn't Bishop of Rome (No one even claimed that he was for 100's of years). No where in that passage does Jesus say anything about Peter's authority coming from being a bishop, much less the Bishop of one particular Italian geographic location on the other side of the Mediterranean that they were not present at, nor ever mentioned during this conversation. Then there's the fact for being some institution supposedly implemented by Jesus himself at the foundation of the Church, it did not exist for centuries. No one followed the Bishop of Romes orders in the West at first (They deferred to Milan originally) No one followed the Popes orders in the East at any time since the foundation of the church, The Bishop of Rome himself bowed to the Emperor in Milan, then Ravenna, and then later in Constantinople as his superior for hundreds of years, and was in fact appointed to his position by them, not the other way around. So I'm just supposed to believe some Medieval degenerate who wanted to use Charlemagne as a cudgel against the Byzantines when he says "Actually I just remembered Romes local bishop was the supreme authority in Christianity this whole time."? It's transparently false.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > No where in that passage does Jesus say anything about Peter's authority coming from being a bishop
      Other way around, all bishops’ authority derives from Peter’s role.
      > much less the Bishop of one particular Italian geographic location on the other side of the Mediterranean that they were not present at, nor ever mentioned during this conversation
      Rome is not some random geographic area, it is the headquarters of Babylon, the empire that oppressed the israelites and crucified the Lord, the place where the apostles end up at the end of the Book of Acts, whose church Peter calls elect/chosen (1 Peter 5:13).

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why don’t you care that you yourself are contributing to the preventing of “Christian unity” by dividing us with mere words and “churches” like “Protestant” and “Catholic” and “Orthodox” like any of those words/churches mean anything?

    Why does there have to be all this separate autistic identity tripe that people think has to come with following God?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Doctrinal purity and correctness

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Why don’t Protestants care that the Catholic Church is the one and only chance Christendom has for visible unity?
    Because most catholics are from africa. Lutherianism is a white thing you wouldnt understand.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >why doesn't a branch of Christianity based in the primacy of the bible over the Church care about world-wide unity
    hmmmmm

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    He warned you but you didnt listen. Now its too late and next pope will be african. You only had stop idol worship and selling indulgences but you decided to kill millions of Europeans instead.

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