Why don't tech workers want to go back to the office? Social interaction is good for the mind.

Why don't tech workers want to go back to the office? Social interaction is good for the mind.

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    rockstar devs are trannies, they loathe social interactions (besides discord)

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What do they expect working for Rockstar?

      Game developers are, funnily enough, developmentally stunted, like their customer base.

      Hmm let's see... Living for cheap in a suburban place and working while seeing the threes and the birds outside or watching your kids vs living in a tiny apartment that costs twice as much or spending a 3 hours commute every day and seeing only concrete and plastic all around you.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Anon, I simply do not respect game development as a profession, or video games themselves as a worthy contribution to society.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          still more worthy than NEET shitposter on welfare

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes. Good thing I'm not.

            Who do you respect? Garbage people? I think they're a great contribution to society.

            As a matter of fact, I do respect sanitation work far more than I respect game development.

            Yeah, being a neurotic failed normalgay is such a huge leap in maturity.

            >a neurotic failed normalgay
            Are you done?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            There's an astounding lack of self awareness here but i guess having autism does that.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >There's an astounding lack of self awareness here
            That's between you and whoever you talk to about your problems.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >As a matter of fact, I do respect sanitation work far more than I respect game development.
            Based and mature take. People who do essential physical work will always be more deserving of respect than office drones of any kind, especially ones shitting out entertainment for manchildren.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Who do you respect? Garbage people? I think they're a great contribution to society.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think there's like a few games that constitute a genuine artistic contribution to society, but the vast majority of games, especially today, are worse than garbage. They're malignant, they're a drag on our culture, and they deserve to be forgotten.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        youre forgetting the part where youre surrounded by Black folk

        that's pretty important

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >seeing only concrete and plastic all around you
        To be fair, you can have plants and lots of wood inside your apartment.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        dont bother, that city cattle wont get it

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What do they expect working for Rockstar?

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only places rockstar employees should be sent to en masse all involve zyklon B

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why Rockstar employees specifically? What does any game developer contribute to the world?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Launching gnomes into space.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You're right, I was clearly asking a stupid question, because the answer is "Nothing."

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      they got bedbugs or something?

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Rolling out of bed 5 minutes before your first meeting and throwing on sweats and a t-shirt is pretty fricking nice.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Game developers are, funnily enough, developmentally stunted, like their customer base.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Spend more time commute and getting stuck in traffic goy!
    >Spend more shekels on gas goy!
    >Spend more money on meals since you're not at home goy!
    >Spend less time with family goy!
    >Spend more time with coworkers that don't give a shit about you goy!
    >Be in-person for the homosexual shareholders goy!!!
    >Be in-person so that middle-managements have something to do goy!
    >Help support the real estate market goy!
    You're the out of touch boomer here supporting the real estate israelites for shilling the work in-person office meme. Good goy!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      > I could have a good paying job if it weren't for israelite

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I like driving so yes, I will.
      I make my lunch at home and bring it to work.
      What family?
      My coworkers are great.
      All-hands meetings only happen once every quarter.
      Only need to meet with manager once a week.
      Yes, I have a house.
      You sound mad and bitter. Being terminally online has rotted your brain.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >uhhh, I LIKE being stuck in traffic?
        Stopped reading there, get help.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I have a playlist of something like 1300+ personally curated songs I only listen to in the car. Took about 6 months of full timing to get sick of every song. Driving is so boring and gay.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Sounds like a you problem, urbanoid monkey. Not everyone lives in LA.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sorry, you have to make at least 120k to post in this thread.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >make 120k a month sex trafficking children
            >occasionally molests said children
            >opinion somehow worth more
            anon, are you justifying sexual assault against children?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Get help, you are sick in the brain.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Black person I love driving too and I still wouldn't be caught dead taking my car to the middle of a jam packed city, too many morons you can't trust behind the wheel. When I have to I still very much rather drive to the nearest train station and hop on the train there

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can even hit it from the side of the employer. It makes no sense to pay for offices when your workers already have homes they can work out of.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This, the israelites are scsred that commercial real estate will just continue to sit empty and destroy the real estate bubble

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Social interaction is good for the mind
    forced social interaction with soulless soijak nerds and moronic managers is bad for the mind.
    commuting in a city with shitty urban planning and no trains is a massive waste of time and energy.
    If every city was like Tokyo this wouldn't be a real problem

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why does IQfy hate game devs so much?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They contribute to a culture of developmental moronation and prolonged adolescence by way of making petty rewards for wasting time.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >culture of developmental moronation and prolonged adolescence by way of making petty rewards for wasting time
        You should get off IQfy then

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          IQfy serves a purpose.

          Ackthcually windowlicker is a song by Aphex Twin.

          Excuse me: "window licker" is a more clever insult.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >IQfy serves a purpose.
            It's original purpose was to discuss anime and otaku culture and that is how it should have stayed

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            oh yeah because being 100% anime would definitely have not led to trannies

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You electiongays are too obvious to spot

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Chud website

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Anime is for chuds.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            same with you trannies

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            moot was a e-girl shitposter on SA. Discussion was never part of the original intention, that was all first wave tourists. Nude nazi e-girls was the original purpose, also, not giving Lowtax $10 when one of his little proto modmins didn't like what you said.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >It's [sic.] original purpose was to discuss anime and otaku culture
            And thank God, at least some of its users have matured.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, being a neurotic failed normalgay is such a huge leap in maturity.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >It's original purpose was to discuss anime and otaku culture
            Do zoomers really believe this?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            explain what the site was for when it had two boards, IQfy and /b/.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        all sports are the same
        all art, media, entertainment are the same
        anything outside of agriculture, medicine and engineering is the same
        that doesnt mean those things aren't worth anything, or have you lost all feelings of fun and wonder for the world?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because when you realize how much they make and piss away, even the shitty ones, it's hard to care about something as mundane as "please come into the office 5 days a week".

      I'd feel sorry for the helpdesk monkeys making barely 50k, needing to work in shit conditions traveling 1hr to work and back but not game devs.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Anyone who trades their labor for a wage is a worker. Doesn't matter if they make 500k/yr or 10k/yr. To say anything otherwise is to fall for capitalist propaganda.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't give a flying frick.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Keep licking the boot, then.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >look mom I said the term again! I think it means something!
            r/aintwork is on another site

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >muh licking of the boots!
            "Windowlicker" is a more clever insult.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Ackthcually windowlicker is a song by Aphex Twin.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >how much they make and piss away
        Irrelevant. They could be making sub-minimum wage and saving every penny, I would not respect them any more. See

        They contribute to a culture of developmental moronation and prolonged adolescence by way of making petty rewards for wasting time.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I'd feel sorry for the helpdesk monkeys making barely 50k, needing to work in shit conditions traveling 1hr to work and back but not game devs.
        Anon I don't know in what world you live in but gamedevs are by far the ones with the worse pay and working conditions, at least those who work for someone else. Indies have the merit of building up a business themselves.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Game devs are even more hateful

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Game devs deserve gulag.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They ruined games

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Working 2 times more for half salary because muh videogames, muh childrenhood dreams.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Game dev types in college were all fricking useless c**ts. If you got paired with them for a SWE project class you could guaranee they would carry the least weight, or would be psychotic code cowboys who would write complete dogshit that no one could interact with because none of it followed any rhyme or reason. They were all moronic when it came to any theoretical understanding of anything and seemed to give way less a shit about things being correct.

      I think game dev is just hacky by nature and that doing too much of it rots your fricking brain or something. The only games I've ever written have always been on amphetamine fueled vamps that go for like 3 days in a row.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      gamergate
      unironically

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    These devs never complain when they are sent on location to go and do research. Why can't they just use google earth and do all their research online at home? Surely Rockstar even have access to much better media databases so they wouldn't even need to send people on location.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      70 IQ post

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I give it 68 max. Post gives the strong subsaharan feeling to it.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The bosses found the secret to getting people back in the office: They fire a bunch of people and then force the return to office. People don't quit because if there's a bunch of fired people of a similar skill floating around, job openings are gonna close.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That will work in the short term but long term the office is a dying institution. It can't die fast enough, in my opinion.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Most tech companies are just firing anyone not willing to return to the office these days and then posting 2 types of jobs
      1) Remote job that's way less than what the previous work force was hired with the ability or rather... benefit of WFH
      or
      2) work in the office with 90% of the pay of the guy before you

      People are fearing all the layoffs but not realizing it's just companies getting them back into their cubes. There are a bunch of bullshit tools that companies use to try to monitor remote workers that give the shittiest data possible.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >why don't people want to be in a soulless cube farm
    I wonder.

    >Social interaction is good for the mind.
    Could it be that people working for American companies no longer feel like they can interact freely with their peers in the corporate environment? Total speculation, of course.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because they prefer doing 5 minutes of WFH and getting paid a full salary instead of actually having to work.

  13. 2 months ago
    Manager (he/him) CSM, RTO Champion 2023, Mental Health First Aider

    Folks,

    I know I am seeing a lot of back-and-forth on this topic, but I really need to push back and raise some red flags here. Having an on-site office presence is foundational to our ability to drive efficiencies in a corporate landscape. It is in our DNA. Sure, there is no 'one size fits all' or silver bullet and some are just boilerplate solutions, leveraged to the hilt and really only keeping us at a 30,000-foot-view of things. Being on-site, however, really allow us to get better granularity, find better directional-indicators, or loop back and dive deep into some critical issues on a go-forward basis.

    I think if you all start spending more time in the office again, you'll find yourself trending toward the positive, but you'll have to keep an eye on the puck. Gut through it, reduce thrash, and let's stay in lock-step on this. Yes, we will synergize!

    What's the root cause of the hatred of Corporate office spaces? I'll put my layman's hat on and guess that it comes from movies such as Office Space and Dilbert cartoons. But we all know that these are fictional spaces, and real office spaces allow us to touch base in a much more efficient manner.

    I have to time-box this comment, as I have a hard-stop in a moment when I will have to jump onto a call. So, just one more point that I want to cover-off on: let's socialize the idea of having more office presence and loop back to see whether we're being more impactful. From a management standpoint, I think that we can get the traction to do it.

    So, net/net, ignore the naysayers, sidebar the folks that are stuck in the weeds, and don't waste cycles or bandwidth on folks that don't align strongly with this mission. Try it out, and we'll have another touch point in a little while to see if we've moved the needle. Remember, our north star hasn't changed. We're still championing our core values remotely and we will only do it better in person.

    If you need me, I will be online again in a bit.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It deeply disturbs me that there are people who actually speak like this.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ayo homie shut the frick fr fr

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I hope you used an LLM to make this.
      I'll be severely disappointed that you're able to naturally make this yourself.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's pasta, newbie.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ywnbaw

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The one good thing about IQfy is that post have to be original.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I’m just fishing for you’s, nta.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Despite having seen this pasta at least a dozen times, it still makes me rage to read it because there are actual people who write shit like this and get paid at least low six figures a year. There needs to be a cleansing.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      shut up Black person

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      So many words for such low quality bait. You sir have failed at today’s task. Bring it up as a blocker is tomorrow’s scrum.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I am going to purchasing motion you through a plate glass window

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just give an autistic guy with an Amazon fire stick a hotel room and he'll finish it all himself

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Commutes suck.
    Noisy working environments suck.
    buttholes babbling on about shit you don't give a toss about suck.
    Stupid small screens suck.
    Chairs that you can't quite get comfortable in suck.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not being able to goon for hours and releasing 12 ropes when you clock out sucks

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm actually in leadership, so I'm going to let you know that I hear these complaints, but consider the business complaints for a moment, and I think you'll agree they're more important.
      >Commutes suck.
      Needing to schedule meetings in advance instead of just calling for attention on the floor sucks.
      >Noisy working environments suck.
      An inability to passively audit the performance and focus of an employee to ensure they're delivering value to the company instead of exploiting us sucks.
      >buttholes babbling on about shit you don't give a toss about suck.
      A lack of ability to force the anti-social coder weirdos to pay attention to important thing and perform basic social niceties sucks.
      >Stupid small screens suck.
      An employee having six screens of porn and video games that you can't see as a manager while they're supposed to be working sucks.
      >Chairs that you can't quite get comfortable in suck.
      An employee taking a nap on their couch because "it's cozy" instead of sitting and maintaining focus and mental clarity in an industry-tested ergonomic chair sucks.

      I understand you want every day to be a snow day and go back to playing your Nintendo and making snowmen, but if you want our money, you need to do the work the way we want it done. You can come back to the office, or you can kiss your health insurance and house goodbye. It's time to grow up.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I think you'll agree they're more important.
        Whoever has the strongest bargaining position has the strongest argument.

        For some employees could be the employee. Everyone is replaceable, including your employer.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          If you're not in it for the company, why are you even there? You could go pump gas to "make a living" if you don't want to be invested in the culture.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >culture
            All fake to retain employees below their market value.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        you always schedule meetings, you never just to and start speaking. what the frick is wrong with you? if you have so little to say that it doesn't require scheduled meeting send an email.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Look, if there's something everyone needs to know, or if there's some information I need to gather, then scheduling a time ahead of time does very little good. If everyone is in the office, I can just walk out to the floor and have everyone's attention immediately. I need to either give or get the information now. You're paid to do as you're told, and what you're told now is to participate in the meeting. How is this hard for you to understand?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >corpodrone sociopath boss comes out of his office, makes some announcement
            >halfway listen, alt tab back to dwarf fortress (managers think it's "coding"), forget everything he said
            How it actually works unless you work for a high morale cultish company like openai or something.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're a thief and are on borrowed time. You think nobody will notice how fewer results are being attributed to you? It's only a matter of time before you're caught and we learn to catch people like you better.
            And for the record, I specifically call out people who aren't paying full attention in front of everyone. If the people paying you come out and call your attention, it is your job to give it.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sorry incel, I get "exceeds expectations" every year and I'm the sole SME for two different critical systems. Maybe try hiring some Indian contractors to replace me for the third time, I'm sure the first two disasters were just flukes LMAO

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It sounds like you've ended up in a position where you're basically extorting your company. Hopefully your leadership has the smarts to bring in redundancy carefully, because your self-perceived value needs to drop fast or you'll hurt a lot of people.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >If everyone is in the office, I can just walk out to the floor and have everyone's attention immediately
            HURR LET ME DISTRACT ACTUALLY WORKING PEOPLE BREAKING THEIR FLOW BECAUSE I COULDN'T BE BOTHERED WITH SENDING AN EMAIL I IZ SMART
            frick you

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's your job, figure it out. You're an adult, not a child. Do your work, and also do the necessary communication. It's a part of human life. If you can't do both like everyone else, go talk to your doctor, there are medications or whatever to fix your problems. That's not your employer's fault.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Get medicated and do your job. Not your employer's problem. You agreed to work for money. You want the money? Work.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Game dev types in college were all fricking useless c**ts. If you got paired with them for a SWE project class you could guaranee they would carry the least weight, or would be psychotic code cowboys who would write complete dogshit that no one could interact with because none of it followed any rhyme or reason. They were all moronic when it came to any theoretical understanding of anything and seemed to give way less a shit about things being correct.

            I think game dev is just hacky by nature and that doing too much of it rots your fricking brain or something. The only games I've ever written have always been on amphetamine fueled vamps that go for like 3 days in a row.

            Your religious delusions are a little weird. I'm not going to engage with those.
            >forced to submit to human needs again
            You have this weird belief that your orgs are not constructed out of people themselves? You've got this weird delusion that they're demons or something? This is really weird, man. I would probably report an employee talking like this, I don't need a workplace shooting on my hands on top of all the other crap your types bring.
            >mostly coopted free will
            You believe your free will is being stripped away by the ad on a bus for teeth whitening strips? Seriously now, this is absurdly histrionic and is a massive red flag.
            In terms of free will... you made a CHOICE to agree to working for someone for money. Now you don't want to do the work but you want the money? The immoral one, to me, sounds like you. If we were making any judgements on spiritual worth, I would rank you well below the people properly doing their jobs around you.

            You're a thief and are on borrowed time. You think nobody will notice how fewer results are being attributed to you? It's only a matter of time before you're caught and we learn to catch people like you better.
            And for the record, I specifically call out people who aren't paying full attention in front of everyone. If the people paying you come out and call your attention, it is your job to give it.

            LMAO, you are nothing but trash. I hope you will get what you deserve: get your ass israelited, divorce raped, and starve to death or overdose in the streets.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Wow, look, there's more of you. Lazy workers making more senselessly violent threats. If you had any actual spine, you'd be leadership and would continue moving ever upwards. You're exactly the kind of people that justifies a lack of trust in most workers.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Imagine actually thinking any of this happens. Half the people in my office (which has forced rto) are on reddit all day. If this is bait it's excellent, otherwise consider reevaluating what the frick you're doing with your life.

        Also lmao @ a corpoBlack person talking about exploitation, you gays are the plantation owners of the modern world. Parasitizing parasites (which is what most tech companies are, especially outside of something like medtech) is a moral obligation.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >are on reddit all day
          Then they probably need to be fired. These are the people I'm talking about. They're just sitting around and stealing money.
          >what the frick you're doing with your life
          My job. How about you?
          >the plantation owners of the modern world
          You really think having to sit at your desk (with your little "desk toys" and "personalization" you bring in) and actually stay on task for a couple of hours is equivalent to working 10 hour shifts in the direct sun with no breaks while getting whipped? We even give you free water and let you use the bathroom. Get a grip. All you have to do is your job, which you are expected to actually do.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Then they probably need to be fired.
            And yet they're not, and consistently meet expectations. Almost like not engaging in pointless performative rituals to appease people like you increases your productivity so much that it doesn't matter if you waste time
            >They're just sitting around and stealing money.
            Like the managerial class?
            >You really think having to sit at your desk (with your little "desk toys" and "personalization" you bring in)
            My desk looks the same as the day I started kek. What a bizarre thing to accuse someone of.
            >and actually stay on task for a couple of hours
            Borderline impossible with the constant distractions in office, at least an open office/cubicles. If you homosexuals actually cared about focus time you'd provide soundproof offices for everyone. I have to come in at 6 am just so that I can be 80% as productive as I was wfh.
            >is equivalent to working 10 hour shifts in the direct sun with no breaks while getting whipped?
            Were it legal this is exactly how you'd have it, your "job" is to manipulate people into providing more value to the company and nothing else. Also the African children who mine the lithium and cobalt our entire industry depends on do work like this, and you don't care at all.
            > All you have to do is your job, which you are expected to actually do.
            The only thing I have to do is finish saving enough to FIRE and frick off from your neobabylonian hellworld forever.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >and consistently meet expectations
            And consistently cheat the system. There's a thin line here that leads to valid accusations of fraud.
            >Like the managerial class?
            You literally could not do anything without management. It is impossible. I have seen hippy Seattle Washington "zero hierarchy" tech startups try to function. It is as laughable and absurd and ultimately as ineffective as Occupy Wall Street. The entire system spirals into infinite bikeshedding. Workers have no idea how do actually do anything but do the low-level work.
            >Borderline impossible with the constant distractions in office
            If you need medication or whatever, figure it out on your own time. Your job is to be here and be paying attention. Do as your told, it's your job. If you can't do your job, get out.
            >Were it legal this is exactly how you'd have it
            This is absurd hyperbole. This is like me saying that if workers had their way, everyone would be getting paid a million dollars an hour to sleep on company time. It's stupid.
            >FIRE
            I've had dozens of employees talk to me about this. All of them are still working like normal. If you had the guts and guile to do something like this, you'd be leadership. Good luck, genuinely, but with your attitude, you'll be here for a long time.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Totally delusional
            >valid accusations of fraud
            Absolutely not. If you were anything other than a larping moron you'd know how fuzzy the line is between goofing off and thinking about a problem. Intellectual work doesn't start or stop when you sit down at your desk. Go ahead and try though and see what happens kek.
            >You literally could not do anything without management
            And management couldn't do anything without the raw materials mined by enslaved children in Africa. Are you saying that because both are necessary for the tech industry I should like both?
            >Your job is to be here and be paying attention. Do as your told, it's your job. If you can't do your job, get out.
            I can't tell if you're autistic or a troll. I excel at my job specifically because I mostly ignore the narcissistic morons like you who demand daily humiliation rituals irrelevant to the actual product.
            >This is absurd hyperbole.
            Absolutely not, your spiritual ancestors in the industrial revolution had 10 year old children working 12 hour shifts next to dangerous machinery. You exploit slave labor in the third world because it's legal over there and you don't have to think about it in your homosexual manchild downtown apartment. Your job is to maximize employee productivity irrespective of employee wellbeing, you said almost as much yourself.
            >This is like me saying that if workers had their way, everyone would be getting paid a million dollars an hour to sleep on company time.
            Obviously we would kek. Unfortunately the reality of finite resources makes that impossible.
            >I've had dozens of employees talk to me about this. All of them are still working like normal.
            FIRE just saving a lot and retiring early. My expenses are already down to almost nothing and my house will be paid off in 9 years. Are you so loyal to your god-company that you refuse to use your 401k?
            >If you had the guts and guile to do something like this, you'd be leadership
            I'm not interested in becoming a lieutenant of baal

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I should like both?
            Why the hell would you hate the alleged children mining raw materials? I'd think they have it bad enough already.
            >because I mostly ignore
            You're a programmer or sysadmin, aren't you? Those types have the biggest heads about what they do. Your job isn't whatever you think it is, it's to do as you're told. If you're told to be in a meeting, be there. If you're told to do your work, you do it. If you're told to do both, figure it out, it's your job. If it were easy, you wouldn't be well paid.
            >Your job is to maximize employee productivity irrespective of employee wellbeing, you said almost as much yourself.
            No, my job is to make certain that you are doing your job. You know, the thing you agreed to do in exchange for money? If you don't want the money, you can stop doing the job. That's fine. There are others who can replace you. In the meanwhile, your job is to do as you're told, and it sounds like you're not, so I don't see why we're debating this. If you're not doing your job, you're not entitled to the money.
            >FIRE just saving a lot and retiring early.
            Yes, I'm aware of what it really is. I also know a lot of workers latch onto it as a fantasy that helps them get through their day-to-day. You very clearly don't have the personality of someone who can succeed at finding financial independence earlier than any of the other malcontents around you.
            >a lieutenant of baal
            A great example of why. Getting people to do the work they agreed to do in exchange for money equals literal satan worship? Lol. Ok.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Holy shit it's like talking to a monkey. If you aren't trolling you need to see a psychologist.
            >Your job isn't whatever you think it is, it's to do as you're told.
            And yet I've built my career partially on strategically ignoring low IQ morons like (you) in order to improve the function of the systems I work on. Half the reason I'm a SME for important things is no one else does it right and no one else wants to get near it. I don't even want to touch it either but it's great leverage for keeping "people" like you away from me.

            >No, my job is to make certain that you are doing your job
            Again if you aren't trolling holy shit. You must work for some kind of horrible pajeet sweatshop. A good manager isn't just a literal janny, he increases the productivity of a team by positively adjusting group dynamics, looking out for blockers, and serving as an interface between line workers and upper management. I've had (and have) some managers that are excellent at this and provide a lot of value both to the company and to us. Being a glorifies keylogger is probably the least important thing that they do, and it seems to be the only thing you can do.
            >If you don't want the money, you can stop doing the job. That's fine. There are others who can replace you. In the meanwhile, your job is to do as you're told, and it sounds like you're not, so I don't see why we're debating this.
            Nah I think I'll keep doing the bare minimum AND keep the money, thanks! You can fire me if that's a problem.
            >if you're not doing your job, you're not entitled to the money.
            Lol as if your owners are entitled to it? They stole or conquered it elsewhere and I'm conquering it from them. Life isn't fair, suck it up.
            >You very clearly don't have the personality of someone who can succeed at finding financial independence earlier than any of the other malcontents around you.
            And yet I'm well on my way there, odd.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're just another overinflated-ego developer type who thinks he knows better than everyone else.
            >no one else wants to get near it
            >it's great leverage
            It sounds like you've made business critical systems hostile to everyone else in the org and are essentially extorting them over it. Lovely. You know who is going to have to clean up your mess when you leave or, more likely, are fired? Someone like me.
            >You must work for some kind of horrible pajeet sweatshop.
            I work for an org that doesn't tolerate getting extorted by the big egos working under leadership, and doesn't want to be a welfare system for its workers. When you came on board, you agreed: Do the work we tell you and we'll give you money. Now you want the money but you want to do other things instead of the work you're told to do. Why does this seem fair to you? This is the same as if you came on board, then discovered we were paying you 1/3 of what we said, but we just went "tough shit!". That's not legal, and what you're doing shouldn't be either.
            >stole or conquered
            >I'm conquering it from them
            So you admit you're just a thief. You pretend everyone above you in your org chart is an immoral piece of shit, so you can sleep at night after you're fleecing your fellow humans for everything they've got. Fricking disgusting.
            >And yet I'm well on my way there, odd.
            I've heard that before so many times. The last guy no longer talks about it, he grew up. He still comes in every weekday with his embarrassing beat-up sedan and his generic unbranded clothes.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Why does this seem fair to you? This is the same as if you came on board, then discovered we were paying you 1/3 of what we said, but we just went "tough shit!".
            CorpoBlack folk try shit like this constantly lol.
            >That's not legal, and what you're doing shouldn't be either.
            What I'm doing is perfectly legal, nothing in my contract is being violated. Why should I give a shit anyway? Other than legal consequences (which don't exist for this) parasitizing corporations is morally good. Life isn't fair homosexual.
            >So you admit you're just a thief. You pretend everyone above you in your org chart is an immoral piece of shit, so you can sleep at night after you're fleecing your fellow humans for everything they've got. Fricking disgusting.
            You think corporations are human beings? The CEO doesn't own the money used for payroll moron. And given that you've already endorsed child slavery I'll go out on a limb and say that yes all managers are evil.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >you've already endorsed child slavery
            I have done no such thing. Wtf, you were the one claiming to hate the foreign miner children. If you're that worried about it, how are you using basically any electronic device to talk with me right now? If you view me as endorsing it, then you clearly are as well. Your bruised big ego is flailing a bit now.
            >You think corporations are human beings?
            They are comprised exclusively of human beings. If something is made of 100% iron, would you not call it iron itself? Do you actually believe they are like, what, summoned demons or something?
            >What I'm doing is perfectly legal, nothing in my contract is being violated.
            I'm aware of that. I said what you're doing ought to not be legal, as it's essentially equivalent to the 1/3 surprise pay cut. In the meanwhile, all we can do is look out for people like you to cut out of the organization before you rob those around you of value while providing insufficient value in return. You know, like you had promised to do when you agreed to join up.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I have done no such thing
            You said managers are needed to make companies function and that makes them good. When I pointed out that this would also mean child slavery is good you responded with some nonsense about hating African children and avoided the question. This is what people who believe in abhorrent things do when put under a spotlight.
            >how are you using basically any electronic device to talk with me right now?
            Refurbished ewaste with no lithium battery.
            >They are comprised exclusively of human beings.
            Lol? First of all how does that make that conglomerate a human being, second of all if you took away the organizational technology and hierarchy that makes a corporation work it would no longer exist, it'd just be a bunch of people milling around.
            >I'm aware of that. I said what you're doing ought to not be legal, as it's essentially equivalent to the 1/3 surprise pay cut.
            Good thing nonhumans like you are still a minority and are increasingly despised. Good luck though.
            >In the meanwhile, all we can do is look out for people like you to cut out of the organization before you rob those around you of value while providing insufficient value in return. You know, like you had promised to do when you agreed to join up.
            When did I promise that? And why should I care about keeping """promises""" to a non human entity?

            [...]
            [...]
            [...]
            LMAO, you are nothing but trash. I hope you will get what you deserve: get your ass israelited, divorce raped, and starve to death or overdose in the streets.

            Bro if this Black person isn't trolling he's fricking nuts. I'm lmaoing my ass off at this whole fricking fever dream exchange.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >it'd just be a bunch of people milling around.
            Yes, without leadership, people would do nothing productive. I agree entirely, thank you for making my point.
            >a non human entity
            You made your promise to humans. You looked real people in the eye and said, yes, I will do this work in exchange for that money. You lied directly to their face as you plotted to steal from underneath them. If any argument about lack of humanity is to be had, it is entirely about your lack of empathy towards others around you.
            >Refurbished ewaste with no lithium battery.
            This very convenient fact sounds like an outright lie. And does not mean that the child miners you hate so much had nothing to do with it - you think because it's refurbished, it absolves you? If this is a problem for you, you need to stop using literally every modern convenience immediately, or you are a hypocrite. But, I already know that you are.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Yes, without leadership, people would do nothing productive.
            I specifically included leadership in the crowd of people. Why is your reading comprehension so poor?
            >You made your promise to humans.
            I signed a piece of paper
            > You looked real people in the eye and said, yes, I will do this work in exchange for that money.
            Literally none of this happened
            > You lied directly to their face as you plotted to steal from underneath them.
            Based
            > If any argument about lack of humanity is to be had, it is entirely about your lack of empathy towards others around you.
            No one around me has anything to do with my paycheck. Do you understand anything about how modern payroll works?
            >This very convenient fact sounds like an outright lie.
            >YOUR DELL OPTIPLEX IS A CONSPIRACY THEORY CHUD
            >And does not mean that the child miners you hate so much had nothing to do with it - you think because it's refurbished, it absolves you? If this is a problem for you, you need to stop using literally every modern convenience immediately, or you are a hypocrite. But, I already know that you are.
            I've stopped using most, if I stopped using all of them I'd be ceding the world to "people" like you. It's much better to do as little damage as possible and work towards exterminating (through therapy, psychological and otherwise) people with your mental and moral deficiencies.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Based
            This is all anyone needs to know about your moral character, or rather the total absence of it. You're actually proud of stealing from people. I can't believe you would actually call others demons with a straight face.
            The rest of your post is continued unhinged reeling violent delusions and justifications for being a thief and degenerate.
            You and people like you are precisely why I keep such a sharp eye out on the people below me. If I can find and eliminate your types before you cause real trouble, I can save everyone else the trouble of having to suffer your fallout.
            I'm done arguing in circles with a self-proclaimed thief and liar, you'll just invent new reasons to feel like you're in the right. You're extremely disgusting. Have fun trying to FIRE, I'm sure it will go as well as all the other guys lol

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Jesus are you not trolling?
            >I can't believe you would actually call others demons with a straight face.
            You celebrate the enslavement of the human race and African children in particular. You daydream about workplace violence. You're narcissistic and sociopathic. That seems pretty demonic to me.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Getting people to do the work they agreed to do in exchange for money equals literal satan worship?
            No moron. My point is that the entire corporate system you worship is a satanic monstrosity that is raping the world. You're genuinely arguing for loyalty to entities that are at the core concerned with maximizing profits for shareholders and nothing else. Empirically we can see that without EXTREME regulation like the labor movement in the 20th century this leads to moral horrors such as literally working people to death, raping the environment for profit, and flooding prosperous countries with desperate third world labor in order to make life worse for everyone involved except for shareholders. The entire abomination only works because it exploits people's inherent greed and selfishness, which is isomorphic to satanism.
            >B-BUT WE DONT HAVE ANYTHING BETTER
            I agree, but it still needs to be kneecapped and forced to submit to human needs again
            >B-BUT IT'S SIMPLY SERVING THE NEEDS OF THE MARKET
            Corporate interests create and control almost all markets. Advertising has mostly coopted free will.
            >W-WELL IF YOU DONT LIKE OUR SYSTEM THEN JUST LEAVE
            I will, thanks! Just need to loot another few hundred thousand from you.

            >verification not required

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Your religious delusions are a little weird. I'm not going to engage with those.
            >forced to submit to human needs again
            You have this weird belief that your orgs are not constructed out of people themselves? You've got this weird delusion that they're demons or something? This is really weird, man. I would probably report an employee talking like this, I don't need a workplace shooting on my hands on top of all the other crap your types bring.
            >mostly coopted free will
            You believe your free will is being stripped away by the ad on a bus for teeth whitening strips? Seriously now, this is absurdly histrionic and is a massive red flag.
            In terms of free will... you made a CHOICE to agree to working for someone for money. Now you don't want to do the work but you want the money? The immoral one, to me, sounds like you. If we were making any judgements on spiritual worth, I would rank you well below the people properly doing their jobs around you.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >You have this weird belief that your orgs are not constructed out of people themselves?
            Calling executive leadership "people" is a stretch, but regardless it isn't. They're constructed out of people + structure + incentives.
            >You've got this weird delusion that they're demons or something?
            More like malignant cybernetic entities. They just instantiate satanic beliefs (with none of the symbolism).
            >This is really weird, man. I would probably report an employee talking like this, I don't need a workplace shooting on my hands on top of all the other crap your types bring.
            Do you think about workplace violence a lot?
            >You believe your free will is being stripped away by the ad on a bus for teeth whitening strips? Seriously now, this is absurdly histrionic and is a massive red flag.
            How do you not know even basic psychology? We've already established that you're mentally ill and likely unemployed but come on. Advertising works off of the principles of propaganda and is essentially rudimentary suggestive mind control. Watch "Century of the Self."
            >In terms of free will... you made a CHOICE to agree to working for someone for money.
            No, i just signed a contract that said that
            >Now you don't want to do the work but you want the money?
            Correct
            >The immoral one, to me, sounds like you.
            Because you're a cultist that worships his employer for some reason
            >If we were making any judgements on spiritual worth, I would rank you well below the people properly doing their jobs around you.
            Because you're a cultist. Agreed.

            >verification YET AGAIN not required

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Do you think about workplace violence a lot?
            When workers start talking about how the company is full of demons or something? Absolutely. Some of you are fricking crazy, and probably dangerous. Like you.
            >mind control
            Oh please. A reminder that a brand exists that can whiten your teeth is not fricking "mind control" you overdramatic weirdo. I suppose you're also a SME of psychology though, right? Your developery types do tend to think their surface-level knowledge of a thousand topics is equivalent to total understanding.
            >Correct
            >you're a cultist
            Sure, OK. You're pretending that companies summon devils (Oh, sorry, "malignant cybernetic entities" is so much saner sounding) and managers are lizard people or whatever? And now you're imagining that stealing from people and breaking your agreements and lying about what you actually do is morally and ethically right. I'm not sure what happened to get you so turned around, but you're seriously deranged.

            >Verification never ever required
            Because I'm not poor lol, why is that relevant? I thought you had a bunch of money.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Holy shit is this a bot? How does it not know what "verification not required" means.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I could ask you the same thing. I don't need to verify because IQfy Pass users don't need to verify ever. And why is your need to verify or not relevant to your poorly made arguments at all?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Delusions of persecution and fantasies of violent rampages aren't healthy anon. Is something in your subconscious bothering you?
            >Oh please. A reminder that a brand exists that can whiten your teeth is not fricking "mind control" you overdramatic weirdo.
            Embedding suggestions into your subconscious that modify your behavior, all without your consent, isn't mind control?
            >I suppose you're also a SME of psychology though, right?
            No which is why your complete ignorance of it is so funny.
            >Your [sic] developery types do tend to think their surface-level knowledge of a thousand topics is equivalent to total understanding.
            LMAO Holy shit, what the frick are you even taking about Black person

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What makes you think social interaction is taking place in these offices?

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Work
    Brings
    Freedom

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Arbeit macht frei?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >two hours of commute
    >can't take a nap in the office when I'm tired
    >shitty equipment (monitor + chair) compared to my home

    It's okay for social interaction if you are not autistic, other than that I'd rather stay at home

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Introverts. It’s the answer.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Who is going to water my plants, pet my cat and do my laundry if I'm spending all day in some smelly office?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      ehm go- bro you are meant to rent a cleaner to do this for you and let the trickle down economics happen

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    feels good have boss that doesnt care as long as the results are good. It seems to be quite random, my friend also in tech have to get in to the office 3 times / week. my company have bosses over different branches, luckily I got a chill one. I WFH whole last week and was only in 1 day this week because we celebrated some success so it was free champange and beer, after that some of us went out on pub run. before I got my degree i was ordinary work drone, man i cant ever imagine going back to that.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Programmer
    >Social
    Pick one and only one, homosexual.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Woke HR probably doesn't help.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Prolonged isolation caused social anxiety and trauma. I act in a political party and even there in-person participation rates are way down. Similar rates to remote work. For what is a volunteer social club. Try to explain that away with efficiency and convenience talking points.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly these projects are massive in terms of assets, lines of code, and man hours spent. On week one, they earn upwards of 1/2 to 3/4 of a billion dollars. Game projects require more than one person to develop resources for any given point of implementation. Want to work on a prefab? Cool, go work on that while you beg some art prostitute for some textures and another dude for some animations for some idle anim on some dumb model after you've done blockouting the section. Also while youre at it, get 3 fx guys to spam their prefabs in your prefabs. These homosexuals genuinely benefit from being in the same room.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >being in the same room.
      Imagine the smell. Would you benefit?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Imagine the smell. Would you benefit?
        Benefit to the tune of

        Honestly these projects are massive in terms of assets, lines of code, and man hours spent. On week one, they earn upwards of 1/2 to 3/4 of a billion dollars. Game projects require more than one person to develop resources for any given point of implementation. Want to work on a prefab? Cool, go work on that while you beg some art prostitute for some textures and another dude for some animations for some idle anim on some dumb model after you've done blockouting the section. Also while youre at it, get 3 fx guys to spam their prefabs in your prefabs. These homosexuals genuinely benefit from being in the same room.

        >On week one, they earn upwards of 1/2 to 3/4 of a billion dollars

        Sounds like a pretty good deal for somebody whose nose is so dejewed I can hardly smell anything.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because wfh is simply superior. Do I really want to go into work and constantly listen to loudmouths chatting while I'm trying to focus? Or do a 1 hour 30 minute commute back and forth every day?

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Offices are unnatural spaces that generate stress.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the same leftist b***hes who lecture us about privilege act like privileged b***hes when asked to return to work
    shocking

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why don't they just subtly break the game and delay release if they're so asshurt?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      game dev is very very competitive industry, if they unionise they'll probably get fired by corporate and replaced with a new wave of young blood not yet jaded enough to fight back. and then in 5-10 years the same will happen to those kids, and so on.

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why would I want to waste 2 hours of my life commuting from home to work, work to home everyday?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why do you choose to live an hour away from your job?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Why do you choose to live an hour away from your job?
        Because it would be way more expensive to live in downtown?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          But it saves you the long commute, anon.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Traffic makes almost any commute 30-60 minutes in my city unless you live a block away, which is prohibitively expensive.

        Also cities suck they're full of Black folk and crazy people.

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >you can't homeschool children! They need social adjustment!
    >I don't want to work around people!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      homeschool autistics are too fricked up to even get a job in the first place, remote or not

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wrong, stop projecting

        t. Highly successful homeschooled autist

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Oh frick, you mean I won't get paid to talk shit about the other women on zoom all day?

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    And what are they gonna do about it? Keep going to work? Good job fellas

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They don't want co workers to see their pre op bodies

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone hates me at the office and I literally have nobody to see, because all my team is in California. Frick that office.

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Social interaction is good for the mind.
    >Social interaction is good for the mind.
    >Social interaction is good for the mind.
    >Social interaction is GOOD for the mind.
    What

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's true, humans are social animals

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Which is why job related social interaction hurts humans so much.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm not an animal, you are

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    social interaction is great, and the lack of distraction can be great.
    unfortunately both the commute, and the hot desk at the end of it, really suck.
    it also sucks if you do the right thing and come into the office, and hardly anyone else does.

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The nice thing about my smaller office is all the management are lazy, nepo babies and couldn't cope with having to work in office full time, so we'll probably never lose remote working.

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Most people don't want to live in modern liberal cities because they're extremely expensive and full of crime and filth. They also don't want to spend hours everyday commuting.

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hate devs whining about being in an office. switch to a different employer pussy. overpaid hacks want their toast buttered both sides

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Entirely agree.
      Developers and sysadmins have the biggest heads in the world. It's borderline intolerable as leadership. They have their own weird distorted visions of what work is and isn't, and how they will or won't do their jobs, as though they're the ones making decisions at the end of the day.
      It's mind boggling, the number of times I'm told "no" on a daily basis by a techy person with an oversized ego yet who is still well below me in the organization chart. If you reprimand them like other employees, they get irate and run away, so you have to play the whole "OK, I hear you, however..." game with them. It's agonizing.
      Competent AI cannot come soon enough.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Competent AI will sooner replace your homie ass than solve the actual shit those people solve. As if being part of "leadership" is actually meaningful work lmao

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          And who will direct the AI? You have no means of understanding the work of the people above you. You all think you do, but push comes to shove and 9/10 of you stumble on basic organizational tasks. The workers will be automated first, because it will finally free leadership up to move without massively egotistical "SME" (lol) resistance.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Literally anybody will pilot it, that's the whole goddamn point. But that shit will still need places to run, and your data will still need to pass whatever flavour of SOC2 bullshit the company needs to obtain to pander to others.
            You'll be replaced in no time but the guy who deals with active directory bullshit, linux utils and has a grasp of RFCs will outlast you by a whole generation at least.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Everyone thinks they could draw until they're alone with pencil and paper. Everyone figures flying a plane can't be so hard until they're sitting behind all the buttons and levers. You would not be able to pilot a fleet of AI workers to any kind of meaningful destination. Your types all think that their work is the most complex intensive special complicated thing in the world, as though I'm not above you controlling dozens of you at any given moment.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You write in the most pedantic manner possible and clearly show that you have no pragmatic grasp of how fundamentally "legacy" all of tech is at its core. You can throw a hundred Copilots at any meaningful (banking, gov, transportation, etc) system and come out with nothing but a wasted electricity bill. On the other hand you can get better arguments in both format and content from a question to any current GPT than 99.99% of managers.
            A lot of "devops" wannabes will lose their job because it isn't meaningful, but for every single company there's still going to be orders of magnitude more actual SRE needed than whatever you imagine your leadership skills to be about. If you truly had an outstanding ability with this domain btw you wouldn't be bothered by random employees' ego since you'd be either a typical for-hire CEO or a board member with rotating conglos, but you're here instead so lmao

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Copilots
            I specifically said competent AI. Copilot is very impressive, but it isn't there yet for replacing bloated egos. Half the time, all you types do is Google every problem you come across and listen to what the Internet says anyway. That's literally what AI is being trained to do. You know everyone above you has access to your Internet history?

            Delusions of persecution and fantasies of violent rampages aren't healthy anon. Is something in your subconscious bothering you?
            >Oh please. A reminder that a brand exists that can whiten your teeth is not fricking "mind control" you overdramatic weirdo.
            Embedding suggestions into your subconscious that modify your behavior, all without your consent, isn't mind control?
            >I suppose you're also a SME of psychology though, right?
            No which is why your complete ignorance of it is so funny.
            >Your [sic] developery types do tend to think their surface-level knowledge of a thousand topics is equivalent to total understanding.
            LMAO Holy shit, what the frick are you even taking about Black person

            >Embedding suggestions into your subconscious that modify your behavior, all without your consent, isn't mind control?
            Seriously? How messed up is your view of the world. Here, watch this, I'm about to "mind control" you: a big grey elephant in a savanna spraying Mountain Dew overhead to stay cool. Oh no!!! I've controlled your mind into processing that imagery and now you're a Demonic Brand Slave or something! Is there a chance anyone can use this power to turn you into a functional non-violent productive member of society? Maybe someone can mind control you using fast food ads into not stealing from people.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Manajannie on suicide watch. Mental breakdown imminent.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Based
            This is all anyone needs to know about your moral character, or rather the total absence of it. You're actually proud of stealing from people. I can't believe you would actually call others demons with a straight face.
            The rest of your post is continued unhinged reeling violent delusions and justifications for being a thief and degenerate.
            You and people like you are precisely why I keep such a sharp eye out on the people below me. If I can find and eliminate your types before you cause real trouble, I can save everyone else the trouble of having to suffer your fallout.
            I'm done arguing in circles with a self-proclaimed thief and liar, you'll just invent new reasons to feel like you're in the right. You're extremely disgusting. Have fun trying to FIRE, I'm sure it will go as well as all the other guys lol

            LMAO, you are a complete moron.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Very soon you will realize you are just a parasite, you bring nothing to the table but ignorance and hubris.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            i will automate your job tradie, sit and watch

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You will end in the gulag, sit and watch

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous`

    Because I’m autistic

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Get medicated and do your job. Not your employer's problem. You agreed to work for money. You want the money? Work.

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No one wants westoid games anymore.
    It will flop so hard with these lazy troony devs.

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Social interaction is good for NPC reprogramming.
    FTFY

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    > Social interaction is good for the mind.
    I will give you social interaction eating pieces out of your face you idiot.

  45. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hope enough will give them the middle finger and silently quit so the game ends in utter failure.

  46. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Working in an "office" nowadays means working in some sort of frickhuge hall type of room, crammed together on little tables with everyone else and no walls so it's horrendously noisy at all times, full of distractions, no privacy and it's overall a space in which it's very hard to focus. When you go to the "office" you don't actually get to work in your office (for most people) and you don't even get a dedicated room you share with your team, it's just some chaotic open garbage, like a marketplace or some shit. Really bad. In addition to that you also have to waste time going to and from work, it's just all-around worse in every conceivable way.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Unfortunately is very rare to find managers who can understanding those facts, they just find ways to rationalize absurd decisions.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      All jobs are designed to waste the time and lives of the serf class. The more time they spend laboring, the less time/strength they have to think about killing their slavers.

  47. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i will join a company when the CEO is an AGI

  48. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    commuting is death of the soul

  49. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >A psychopathic god-complex manager and an antisocial worker arguing: The thread
    Get a room

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Get a room
      I'd call him to my office but he refuses to show up in the workplace.

  50. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Social interaction is good for the mind.
    true and that is why i want to work from home, so i have more time for being with my family and friends

  51. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Smalltalk with colleagues isn't real social interaction you buffoon. Only people without actual friends want to go to a fricking office to "socialize"

  52. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why are techies so against work at office? Don't they wanna socialize?
    It's as if they wanna outsource parts of their work to overseas cheap labor.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Don't they wanna socialize?
      According to the manager ITT, socializing is theft. By asking other employees about their weekend, you are stealing from the company.

  53. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You dont get paid to socialize with your coworkers, you're getting paid to get shit done. And the office is not an environment to do this

  54. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >dark cubicles rather than open plan oestregen hellscape
    If offices still looked like that, I'd still not want to go in rather than work from home, but I'd be way more inclined to than I am now.

  55. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >good for the mind
    Every fricking time I get ordered to stop doing my job and join a meeting because expecting a manager to read Jira without help from the entire team is apparently unreasonable, I get more irritable, sexist, and prone to daydreams about graphic violence. Is this considered better mental health?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Is this considered better mental health?
      Yes, for your manager, because then he doesn't have to hurt his brain reading

  56. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How come IQfy now absolutely despises game developers? I don't mean Rockstar devs specifically, but all of them. It's an incredibly interesting field.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Tryhard manchildren who think they need to hate anything that isn't 100% productive to be mature.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >IQfy is one person

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >It's an incredibly interesting field
      So is astrology. Equal value to society as game development.

      Tryhard manchildren who think they need to hate anything that isn't 100% productive to be mature.

      That's an odd way of saying, "I can't imagine being happy without an unhealthy attachment to some part of my childhood."

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Don't worry, you'll grow up one day.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, you will. Although, depending on your physical age, maybe you won't...

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >n-no u
            Embarrassing.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I can't imagine being happy without an unhealthy attachment to some part of my childhood.
        holy mother of projection

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You mean this guy:

          >n-no u
          Embarrassing.

          >>n-no u
          That is what you're saying, yes.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because it's too difficult for them. Gamedev is probably the most interesting, diverse and complicated field of programming when you think about it.

  57. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm worried about my carbon footprint.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Two tears in a bucket. You and everyone you know could live like the Unabomber, sans homicide (unless you want to keep it to yourselves when the crops don't yield a good harvest), and the environment would still be going to shit.

  58. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Rockstar is infamous for treating employees like shit. I turned down a dev offer during GTAV's production because the dudes there were also blatantly soulless as frick.

  59. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Too many children on here to comprehend the real issue. That office you hate so much is LITERALLY there to provide you a white-collar job; those are not productive, they’re mostly just make-work fluff for middle class whites. When you don’t work at an office, you just WON’T WORK. Any productive function you provided can be outsourced, leadership doesn’t need or want to pay for middle-class white collar labor and only did so because that was simply how you had to operate. The work-at-home movement is ACTUALLY the no-work movement. But developmentally-challenged cattle don’t understand these things so now the job market is FRICKED while jeets take whatever productive roles are still worth it to the leadership. You people failed to understand that your value to business was less than zero and the moment they could get away with not hiring you they took it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Shut up homosexual

  60. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have an apartment with a big wooden desk, 3 4K monitors and nice view of the mountains. At my office I have nothing but a bunch of jeets talking in the background of the open office and homeless schizos screaming on the street below. I'm never going back there except when there's some event with free beer and food, then I might show up in the afternoon

  61. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    people want to get paid to not work.

  62. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why does IQfy pretend to not play video games?

    Like I don't understand, every single one of you is a video game addicted porn brain soaked anime watching moron.
    Some of you, a very small percentage of you, also happen to have jobs while still being a porn addicted anime watching loser playing video games.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Mainly it’s envy by poor students from have-nothing Eastern European or 3rd world hellholes.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That post makes no sense

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I stopped playing many videogames a few years ago, I just lost the joy from it.
      I had a job and gamed, I have a job and stopped gaming.
      Not everyone is literally you, playing 24/7/365

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      False sense of maturity. It's like a cargo cult really.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >pretend to not play video games
      I'm not pretending.

  63. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't do shit while working from home. I absolutely do the bare minimum, spending most of the workday jerking off and smoking weed.

  64. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just want my midnight club back

  65. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >socially interact with poop on sidewalk
    >socially interact with homeless
    >socially interact with random internationals on the subway

  66. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone in this thread needs to post TC or GTFO
    full remote
    TC: 170k
    YoE 4

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >TC: $0.00
      >YoE: 11
      Fricking applying everywhere and nobody's hiring. I got a real spit in the face the other day when I gave this one company a call. Y'know, I thought I was over being angry at this kinda shit, but that really hurt. I dunnow, man. I wish someone would give me a chance.

  67. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not paid to "socially interact".

  68. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >It's nowhere near as difficult as your whinging makes it seem.
    then why aren't you doing it? it pays better. if it's easier than what you're doing and it pays better, literally why are you not doing it? do you like being poor?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not him, but probably because being a manajanny requires a kind of psychotic mindset that most people find horrific, and is heavily based on the personal connections you have with other managers. You can't just "be a manager" despite the actual work being moron tier in most cases.

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