Why don't the Welsh have the similar levels of cultural output compared to all the other three groups of the British Isles?

Why don't the Welsh have the similar levels of cultural output compared to all the other three groups of the British Isles?
>inb4 this just proves you're a stupid pleb
Yeah, I know. I knew a little bit about Ireland, Scotland and England well before I ever seriously decided to take history up as a thing to look at in my spare time. All I know about the Welsh is that the Turkish friend of Indiana Jones is actually played by a Wales native.

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  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    isnt arthur, like the cornerstone of chivalric medieval culture along with charlemagne, largely influenced by the welsh? Of course, the qctual texts are thoroughly french, but they are set and seem to take inspiration from there.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Origin with the welsh but popularized by the english and french.

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    ?si=QaLoPdkeqzH29DU5

  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just realized that Wales looks like the "two soiboys pointing" meme

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wales was never indipendent long enough to develop that sort of outreach. Scotland and Ireland were indipendent well into the middle of the second millenia

      Oh motherfricker, now I can't unsee it

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Meds

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        no they're not

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Anglesey is the head for anyone who needs help.

  4. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    They do. The issue is the irish never stfu about themselves and cant stop exaggerating and appropriating accomplishments.

    Ironically the whole revival of Briton culture was started by the Welsh. Then seemingly hijacked by the Irish.
    For example the Harp was originally the symbol of Wales. The Welsh are famous for their singing and music.
    Guess who pinched the symbol of the harp for themselves? The Irish.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      didnt the irish just make up a thousand years of unbroken rulers for all their random shitty "dynasties"? or did they welsh do that too?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I've seen irish gays claim the Irish had full plated knightly orders 100s of years before knights were even a thing. So you tell me.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          nah i checked and the welsh must have done it too because their dynasties have founding dates in the 200s and shit when basically no one else does. i originally found it out by wondering why the shitty irish has such long and detailed dynasties in the game when everyone way more important and with longer recorded history didnt

          i remember some IQfy gay saying it had something to do with getting special status by the government so maybe they had a reason to do it though

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >their dynasties have founding dates in the 200s in ck2*

            i forgot to point out that my knowledge of history comes from ck2

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            The Kingdom of Gwynedd was founded by the descendants of the Roman official with nominal authority that was left behind when the legions abandoned Britannia.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Real Irish history (as opposed to the bullshit their tourism ministry puts out)
        >Thousands of years of being completely irrelevant bog-Black folk who are only notable because they had some weird cultural obsession with men's nipples.
        >Then they were colonised by the English, causing meteoric economic and cultural development, and producing several great men that history will never forget entirely due to being ruled by their betters.
        >After a few hundred years of being civilised some of the bog-Black folk get obsessed with the mud-farming, nipple fixated, completely irrelevant phase of their history, eventually deciding to do terrorist shit because of it
        >After trying to find peaceful and workable solutions Britain pulls out of most of the island, except for a small portion in the north that was needed to prevent the terrorists from genociding/doing weird nipple shit to their countrymen of a different religion
        >Irish terrorism continues despite this
        >Ireland uses its newfound 'freedom' to become the best b***h the EU could ever ask for.
        What is it with Celtic 'nationalist' movements equating 'freedom' with 'becoming a helpless servant of international organisations'?

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          The Irish think that a few missionaries proselytising to Northumbrians means they 'saved civilisation', even though accounts from across England, France and as far away as Italy emphasise the point that the Irish, whilst pious Christians, are a backwards race

    • 5 months ago
      Chud Anon

      didnt the irish just make up a thousand years of unbroken rulers for all their random shitty "dynasties"? or did they welsh do that too?

      I've seen irish gays claim the Irish had full plated knightly orders 100s of years before knights were even a thing. So you tell me.

      nah i checked and the welsh must have done it too because their dynasties have founding dates in the 200s and shit when basically no one else does. i originally found it out by wondering why the shitty irish has such long and detailed dynasties in the game when everyone way more important and with longer recorded history didnt

      i remember some IQfy gay saying it had something to do with getting special status by the government so maybe they had a reason to do it though

      >their dynasties have founding dates in the 200s in ck2*

      i forgot to point out that my knowledge of history comes from ck2

      >AHHHHHHHHH THIS BIDEO GAME HAS IRISH PEOPLE IN IT
      >IM GOING CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZY

      Sorry Nigel, should they uinclude more English cultural highlights like Tikki Masala and pederasty?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        t. irish pedophile

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Irish aren't going to frick you, Cletus

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      didnt the irish just make up a thousand years of unbroken rulers for all their random shitty "dynasties"? or did they welsh do that too?

      I've seen irish gays claim the Irish had full plated knightly orders 100s of years before knights were even a thing. So you tell me.

      You guys are correct for questioning such statements. But you have to appreciate the layers of languages & how much the british english thrones despised the irish & what they can leave out during the compiling of older languages for their own benefits.

      If i can add my 2 cents on the Welsh output, They yielded earlier to the english (quoted from a welsh traveler in australia) dickheads all over the thrones histories claim things as their own.

      For example, game of thrones writer using Bran's (the raven) diluted story, the tower of london holding the Head of bran under it (still while they claim because he is british and protector of britain) google bran the blessed if you want to know more about all that, i only know all this for i am an irish australian who went too far down the rabbit hole XD (if you ask the right questions i can share more)

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Brân the Blessed (Welsh: Bendigeidfran or Brân Fendigaidd, literally "Blessed Crow") is a giant and king of Britain in Welsh mythology. He appears in several of the Welsh Triads, but his most significant role is in the Second Branch of the Mabinogi, Branwen ferch Llŷr. He is a son of Llŷr[1][2] and Penarddun, and the brother of Brânwen, Manawydan, Nisien and Efnysien. The name "Brân" in Welsh is usually translated as crow or raven.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          VERY GOOD VERY GOOD, now look up the surname of "Byrne" or O'Byrne" & O'brien & look at the heraldry symbols (byrne is a mermaid & obrien 3 lions My last name is Byrne & i am from an obrien bloodline also) i am also heading to ireland next year to study in a university over there woooo!) (keep asking the right questions & ill keep going deeper on this topic for you, you might be suprised what i tell you)

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            do you think the irish were giants? did all that Black person worship fry your brain mr aussie?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Hey at least you can think for yourself, Define giant, 6ft? 6ft 7 Inch? as compared to races of men that ate less protein & didn't travel? the gypsy king is a giant compared to me. All dogs descended from wolves how is the human race different?. Haven't been on IQfy for 5 years LOL

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            you could have just said yes

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Plastic Paddy.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          [...]
          [...]

          You guys are correct for questioning such statements. But you have to appreciate the layers of languages & how much the british english thrones despised the irish & what they can leave out during the compiling of older languages for their own benefits.

          If i can add my 2 cents on the Welsh output, They yielded earlier to the english (quoted from a welsh traveler in australia) dickheads all over the thrones histories claim things as their own.

          For example, game of thrones writer using Bran's (the raven) diluted story, the tower of london holding the Head of bran under it (still while they claim because he is british and protector of britain) google bran the blessed if you want to know more about all that, i only know all this for i am an irish australian who went too far down the rabbit hole XD (if you ask the right questions i can share more)

          i rest my case see

          They do. The issue is the irish never stfu about themselves and cant stop exaggerating and appropriating accomplishments.

          Ironically the whole revival of Briton culture was started by the Welsh. Then seemingly hijacked by the Irish.
          For example the Harp was originally the symbol of Wales. The Welsh are famous for their singing and music.
          Guess who pinched the symbol of the harp for themselves? The Irish.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      to be fair the harp is fricking moronic and gay and the dragon is only moronic but in a cool way

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why do you always have to make things about us? This is a Welsh thread

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        why are you making everything about you? why are you in the welsh thread?

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          the first post to mention ireland aside from the OP was

          I just realized that Wales looks like the "two soiboys pointing" meme

          and the thread has been derailed ever since
          also only 2 or 3 of the posts mentioning ireland haven't been seething about how the Irish won't shut up yet from my pov it looks like they've been the quiet ones in this thread

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            okay now make a real post with a real point

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            my point is that the irish aren't the ones which have kept interjecting shit about ireland into this thread

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            the first post to mention ireland aside from the OP was [...]
            and the thread has been derailed ever since
            also only 2 or 3 of the posts mentioning ireland haven't been seething about how the Irish won't shut up yet from my pov it looks like they've been the quiet ones in this thread

            The thread fricking topic mentions the irish

            Lying leprechaun.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            except i did mention that in my first post
            >aside from the OP
            and this is what the OP had to say about ireland
            >I knew a little bit about Ireland, Scotland and England well before I ever seriously decided to take history up
            which is why i said

            They do. The issue is the irish never stfu about themselves and cant stop exaggerating and appropriating accomplishments.

            Ironically the whole revival of Briton culture was started by the Welsh. Then seemingly hijacked by the Irish.
            For example the Harp was originally the symbol of Wales. The Welsh are famous for their singing and music.
            Guess who pinched the symbol of the harp for themselves? The Irish.

            was really the first to seriously bring Ireland up in this thread

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            because Wales and Ireland share a bunch of culture because a bunch of Welsh culture made its way to Ireland.
            So when people ask why is there not apparent Welsh culture, its probably because the Irish say its Irish culture.
            Which was literally demonstrated itt

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Why are YOU in the Welsh thread? wienersucker

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            because i am Welsh you moronic fellatio fixated homosexual

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >awake at 5:58am
            Touch grass

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            its 5 pm you idiot

  5. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    related question. what was breton brittany culture like? how did it differ from welsh and everyone else?

  6. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Part of the issue is the lack of presence of Welsh culture. Past the 15th century a lot of Welsh stuff is just attributed to England since Wales was never a kingdom within the empire but simply a part of England with the crown prince also being the Prince of Wales.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Probably related to population size.
      Wales has a small population now and probably always did.
      Not that many urban areas either.

      >Past the 15th century a lot of Welsh stuff is just attributed to England
      Do you have examples of this?

  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I was talking about this with another person awhile ago and we agreed
    Irish are insufferable and never stop talking about themselves and shilling everything Irish.
    Scotts are a lot less about shilling but standing on their own accomplishments, having actually accomplished things.
    Welsh are just completely silent and insular

  8. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the British Isles

  9. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wales is de facto part of England and has been for 700 years.

  10. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Tudors are the second best dynasty that England has had.

  11. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    wales is a shithole and we should have finished them like we did the irish

  12. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    You ever met a Welshman, mate?

  13. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I do feel sorry for the Welsh. Scotland and Ireland at least developed an 'Anglo' culture of their own, derived from English settlers and influenced by the Englishmen in neighbouring England. Wales never had any of that, no great authors or anything

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      A lot of famous people were Welsh though, especially ones considered English.
      Also interestingly in statistics the English put the Welsh and English in the same category.

      Theyve got some good musicians

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Ireland
      >anglo

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        OK, sure, Ireland is completely free of any cultural influence from England at all.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ireland speaks English and is therefore anglo
        >BUT MUH GAYLICK
        Dead language, cope.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Ireland speaks English and is therefore anglo
          >>BUT MUH GAYLICK
          >Dead language, cope.
          This.
          Population of Wales: 3,105,000, Welsh speakers: 538,300
          Population of Ireland: 7,052,314, Irish speakers: 195,029

  14. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Theyve got some good musicians

  15. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why are the Brits in this thread seething so much about the Irish?

  16. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because they're a tiny country demographically, and they've been subject to anglicisation since the middle ages.

  17. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    small country-big border is a recipe for failure

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      It wasn't always that small and it was "a country" for a very brief time(during revolt in 1400)
      Britons lost their land and had to hide in the mountains because they couldn't govern shit and practically went back to bronze age after the romans left them

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      > muh strategic depth

  18. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >thread about the Welsh
    >full of irish crying about the Brits
    >telling welsh people to get out
    i hate the irish so much its unreal

  19. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Welsh people are just Italians

  20. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are you serious? Welsh poetry goes back at least to the Gododdin and Welsh choral and folk music are world famous today.
    The revival of Celtic culture (albeit larping) was driven by a Welsh middle class.
    The Eisteddfod is probably the biggest celebration of 'Celtic' culture in the world

  21. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Population of Wales is half that of Scotland in 1500AD.

    Wales is one of the places that resisted the Romans and other invaders (they are more authenticly _British_ than the Anglo Saxon English).

    Until coal, there wasn't a lot else there in terms of industry etc.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >resisted
      hahaha no. They were completely Romanised by occupied Romans. Theres basically only two Welsh place names that aren't Roman

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wales wasn't that Romanised, at least compared to Southern and Eastern England. The Welsh themselves were one of the few 'Roman' peoples to maintain their pre-conquest tongue, unlike the Gauls, and that precisely because they were less integrated into the Roman system. The modern Welsh might larp as Romans but they're descended from the same Brythonic hillbillies who always lived in the agriculturally-poor mountains of western Britain

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Wales is heavily romanised they were quite literally the Romano-Britons.
          The reason its not completely obvious is all the Latin names and language were Welshified.

          The seperate countries like Bretons were literally deported Roman-Britons from Wales. Sent there by Romans.
          Theres a lie spread that Welsh means "slave" when it actually means Romance speaker.
          Also the riddle why there is apparently hardly any Roman ancestry is because the Welsh literally were the "Romans" for this region.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >no source

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The reason its not completely obvious is all the Latin names and language were Welshified.
            No proof.
            >The seperate countries like Bretons were literally deported Roman-Britons from Wales. Sent there by Romans.
            No proof that the people in Britanny source themselves from Wales. It's repeated but there's no evidence other than a similar language.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Classic proof is Arthur from latin Arthurus

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Imagine denying that the Bretons/Britons/Britannians come from Britannia

  22. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    These threads are always comical as the non-Anglo-Saxon derived groups of the British isles have more Steppe, more WHG, and are genetically more similar to the Anglo-Saxons, than the modern English.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      wtf am i reading
      >non anglo-saxons are mire anglo-saxon than the anglo-saxons
      b***h you don't even know what an Anglo-saxon js

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        You dont know what "Anglo-Saxon" means here.
        Anglo-Saxons, genetically, were more Steppe and WHG than Anatolian.
        It is ironic that NON ANGLO SAXON GROUPS in the British Isles, are more like this type of genome "Steppe/WHG over Anatolian", than the actual Children of Anglo Saxons (The English, who are mostly Anatolian).

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          you anglophobes are sick in the head

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >say something objectively true
            >get called Anglo-phobe
            ???

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            its not objectively true you fricking liar its nonsensical bullshit

  23. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >land of legends

  24. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like the Welsh they are good frens
    t. Engloid

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