WHY IS IT SO HARD TO FIND A DUMB TV?

Why is it so hard to find dumb tv's nowadays? Do dumb tv's still exist? Are there any smart tv's that don't spy on you?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A-anon, you can buy android tv box that support modding and just plug it to a monitor. Not that hard. Starve these boomer tech to hell.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >smart tv's that don't spy on you

      lol what did you think smart actually meant? Smart is code for "we're going to bend you over a data mine your small intestine"

      Get a monitor, work out the inputs.

      Where the hell am I going to get a 55-inch 4K monitor for under $400?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The reason smart TVs are so cheap is because they're subsidized by ads on the home screen. Most TV manufacturers offer dumb versions intended for store and restaurant displays, but they're more expensive despite having fewer features.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So much of the cost savings from "technological advancement" is just enslaving third worlders or putting ads in things.
          Very little technology is actually developed.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Dats rite!

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >He doesn't know about DNS ad-block.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You didn't say anything about price being an issue. As the other anon said, smart tvs are designed to make up the loss on data mining and ads.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They're calling dumb TVs "digital signage display" now and they're going for about 5x more than their "smart" equivalent minimum. A 5x price increase is always an issue, I don't care how rich you are.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        buy a smart tv and never connect it to the internet then
        set it to start the last source whenever turned on which is whatever hdmi port your shield is plugged into

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >buy a smart tv and never connect it to the internet then
          Then enjoy going back for a refund since most models won't even let your start the initial setup without an active internet connection.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            IIRC, when I bought my Bravia several years ago, it didn't require me to connect to the net, but I did it anyway just to get the firmware update that brought VRR. I set up a guest wifi network and connected to that, after the update I deleted the guest net and haven't connected the tv to the net ever since.
            Btw I took the time to read the EULA on that TV as well as on the cheapo TCL one I had before. Sony's conditions on paper were far less cancerous than TCLs that stated straight up they have the right to record all of the data of everything you do with the device.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >bro why are things that used to be $1000+ now $350 at Walmart
        >I don't want anything that might track what I watch and sell it to advertisers and content makers

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >it's cheap because it's subsidized by people buying your data!
          >not because it's 8 ounces of plastic vs the old 400lbs of american steel and vacuum

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >hello, yes, I would like to purchase vacuum please
            >yes, 400lbs ought to do it, thank you
            The absolute state of consumers.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Anon, you really think your TV is $100 in parts?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            tvs aren't even that, your $350 dollar tv probably cost $5 dollars in parts and labor

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            eh. The controllers alone cost more than that.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And that's why you're moronic and poor
            Just the shipping is going to be $30+

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Buy a smart tv and use an impact driver on the wifi module. Research models that won't block your tv unless you are connected to the internets.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Wifi modules are often little cards that are removable. But imagine big-brain who complains about SmartTV but also insists on connecting Monitor to Internet directly instead of using Monitor connected to a PC.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've literally searched this and all I get are brands that are known for spying and telemetry.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >smart tv's that don't spy on you

    lol what did you think smart actually meant? Smart is code for "we're going to bend you over a data mine your small intestine"

    Get a monitor, work out the inputs.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Walmart sells them under their Sceptre brand

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Remember when people thought Ubuntu TV was going to be a thing like 10 years ago?

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    try asking politely first of all buddy

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My tv doesn't have a hidden camera. In fact retail tv has a hidden camera because if it had a camera they would advertise it because normalgays love that shit.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >buy smart tv
    >don't connect it to the wifi
    >buy an HDMI cable
    Guys I think I fixed it

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Guys I think I fixed it
      >"Please connect to Wi-Fi to continue setup"

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Vizio will just disable all smart features if you don't accept the eula. You'll still have their aids buttons on the remote but it should at least function like a dumb tv.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I'd like to exchange this TV please. I'd like to swap it for this one that I actually did a single modicum of research into this time.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >actually did a single modicum of research into
          >search display model number on {searchengine}
          >reddit posts from 2019 complaining about an entirely different display
          >all relevant links are to ads that don't tell you the talmudic contract hidden in the EULA

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Buy a different TV.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I only buy a TV if Rtings has reviewed it

  8. 4 weeks ago
    sage

    >buying anything brand new
    lmao glad I grew out of this meme

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tv's
    What of TV's do you want?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Teevee's nuts

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I'm entitled to a 400$ large TV screen
    Get a load of this zoomer. TV's up into 2000s were a very pricey household item, large screens even more so. Owning a plasma tv was a large investment into 2000s. People paid premium to own a TV back in the day.
    As other anons said adware is the only reason you get cheap large ass screens. Don't like it? Pay up as your dad did in 97

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My 36-inch Trinitron WEGA was only $900 in 2005, and it's a 160-pound CRT. Big screen TV sets weren't a large investment unless you were an early adopter of HD, even then, you could still get HD 30-inch+ sets back then for ~$700.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        900$ in 2005 is 1450$ in 2024. Not a small purchase imho and tv's were already having major price sinks in 2000s. And crt's were on their way out so one would expect their price would sink even further.

        Problem is even those high end TVs have this shit built into them now. You're better off buying the best screen you can find, then removing the camera and microphone and wifi antennas by any means necessary. Then just use a HTPC over and HDMI for your input for anything that isn't some game console or VCR or BD player.

        that's true, but normies might want that shit, imagine a non smart tv and people sperging about not being able to browse their tiktok or something

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Problem is even those high end TVs have this shit built into them now. You're better off buying the best screen you can find, then removing the camera and microphone and wifi antennas by any means necessary. Then just use a HTPC over and HDMI for your input for anything that isn't some game console or VCR or BD player.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >hardware malfunction detected, this unit will be disabled for your safety, please submit an RMA claim

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I've yet to see a tv do this. Not saying it couldn't happen, just feels like it would just bootloop or some other thing instead of displaying any actual message.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            anon, without the camera it can't determine how many people are in the room when playing copyrighted content and therefore it wouldn't be able to comply with dmca regulations

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes anon, I kind of do want a built-in deep learning upscaler to make my DVDs look like Blu Rays.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You want all your DVDs to look like they were smeared in vaseline?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            get your eyes checked poorgay

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You should heed your own advice then. mpv does a better job in a more flexible manner.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    get a big ass pc monitor. no smart shit in those last i checked. it might cost you more shekels but don't be a poorgay or if you are, save up for one.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Recent Philips shit-ass smart TV owner here, what worked for me was:
    >get TV
    >get a wifi network **with no internet** (I unplugged my modem from my router, but if you can't, I suppose you could just enable wifi sharing on a smartphone with data disabled, or on a laptop)
    >connect the TV to that wifi network when asked
    >TV goes like waaah waaah there's no internet, but shows a button to "setup later", click that shit
    >never setup later

    Keep this only between us, guys.. They might disable this path..

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I just have a wireless network called Internet of Shit that blackholes all traffic.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Saved

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Don't bother, they all have sim cards and just connect via the cellular network for telemetry purposes, that way you can't snoop on what data they're collecting using wireshark or try to block their internet connection.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >*locks tv in a faraway cage*

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Look up hotel tvs and tvs meant for advertising and showing menus. They're often called "hospitality TVs".

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Samsung 4K 55” CU7000: $369.99
      >Samsung 4K 55” HCU7000: $665
      Wow, the price difference is insane, nice find though. Scaling down to 50'' also drops the price of the dumb display by over $100, a lot closer to what Anon's looking for.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if you're a basement dweller you could consider getting a projector

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >buy data mining subsidized smart TV for practically nothing
    >don't connect it to Internet
    >proceed to pirate literally every second of israeliteslop for my talmudbox.
    lmfao

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why do you guys even have these?

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >clickbait outrage farm youtube thumbnail
    >no proof
    >believed immediately
    reddit

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Are there any smart tv's that don't spy on you?
    probably not

    I wound consider just getting a computer monitor

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are there any 55-inch computer monitors?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, actually. Especially the Iiyama ProLite lineup.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I was shitposting and didn't actually expect a reply

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You trolling bro? The Iiyama ProLite big signage displays have android running on them. Monitors only go up to 45" ultrawide.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They call them "commercial displays"

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Samsung has this Ark thing but its absolute dogshit. Get a S90C or S95C instead and yes I know those are tvs but they work just as well as displays. You can simply skip the wifi setup.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why not just keep these things off the internet? Serious question, my newest TV is still from the 1080p era.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah i have a 9 year old tv like that, but they are getting harder to find because the smart tv's can make the company more money serving ads and mining user data.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Do these TVs just refuse to function if you don't have an internet connection, or what?

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    idk I haven't bought a tv in years, all my tvs are either my old CRTs or flat tvs I bought before smart tvs were a thing

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Same. For me all my tv's/monitors are flat screen tv's months before the HD boom happened. I have this SANYO flat screen tv/monitor from 2008 that's just a trooper when it comes to always working. I have a family member who went through 5 tv's since the time I got that SANYO tv. The horror stories I hear about these smart tv's makes me never want to get one.

      I could never seem to keep CRT's though, frickers always break on me but that's probably because I was a kid who would always get cheap hammy down CTR's.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i don't own a tv. i own two crt monitors, one 14" and the other 20", and a 24" led monitor. none of them have any smart features so none of them spy on me.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i'm trans btw

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        why does owning monitors make me trans? i am trans but what do monitors have to do with it?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's fine and well for computing but the 'big TV in living room hooked up to a public use PC with a wireless keyboard' is an ideal configuration for a living room/hangout space and you can't find monitors that huge. I'm posting from such a setup right now, an old 1080p 55", the resolution and size makes browsing annoying because everything has to be scaled up to be visible, so I'm going to upgrade eventually here, but I dread the modern TVs.

      Every friend with a modern TV has a much less simple experience than 'turn on screen and use computer', there's always menus and setup things and weird stuff even without being connected to the Internet. It sucks so much. All I want is a 70"+ 4k screen, ideally one that either can turn on or off via hdmi like a monitor or has a simple to access power button, with no other features.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nah. i use my 24" monitor in my living room as my main entertainment screen with my consoles and pc hooked up to it and it works just fine.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You don't have friends come over? Not even other autists who sit and browse IQfy with you?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i don't have friends because i'm literally autistic and can't even make friends with other autists but there's plenty of space here for multiple people to sit and see the screen with no problems

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How difficult would it be to unplug the motherboard and replace it with a dumb LVDS/eDP driver board?

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >mfw I spent a lot of cash on philips OLED tv
    >it turns out that its not possible to turn off bluetooth, even with root thus option in hidden menu is greyed out.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A monitor is fine too

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    has anyone reformatted a tcl Roku or Google tv yet
    too lazy to look into it myself

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My smart TV doesn’t have a camera or mic. Bought it 4 years ago. LG UJ630V. I dunno what the frick you schizos buy, honestly.

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They are rare because the spyware that install out of the box gives it a continuous revenue. In fact, some big brands sell TVs at a slight loss to be competitive with prices but make it up over time due to ad revenue. You can find some without it but they are mostly meant for businesses that just need a display. The only company that sells non-smart Television for consumers that I know of is Sceptre. Bought a dumb 4k tv from them and like it. Not the high end quality you get from Samsung or other brands but its decent and works fine. The big thing for me is no botnet since I'm a bit of a privacy schizo and open software enthusiast. Just hook up with whatever you want whether it be a HTPC, console, satellite, cable, and you're good. I personally just have Raspberry Pis with Lakka and LibreELEC. Might add antenna if ATSC 3.0/NextGenTV turns out to be good.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      its not going to be good they are drm encrypting all the locals to stop rebroadcasting. you must have the box hooked to the net. its garbage, they have already ruined 3.0 before it is even fully deployed yet.
      also: nobody in this thread has mentioned my fix, which is removing the wireless card, so if you have to use the net it is hardwired, and install a switch with remote to the TV power thus shutting it down entirely when not in use.
      this kills the TV spy.
      (when not in use at least since having it connected to the net makes it easily "hackable" and constantly sending and receiving data)

      I would imagine most smart TVs have little cards for their wifi adapter like laptops, right? Thinking about poking around in my TV and seeing if I can remove that capability so I can be sure that it's only talking over the wired interface into the isolated subnet.

      that is exactly what it is, and it is easy to remove.

      Can someone provide proof that smart TVs actually DO have a camera that looks back at the viewer?

      some of them do. do some searching.

      Just buy a smart TV and remove the WIFI antenna if you are worried about it connecting to random open networks.

      correct, but as another anon mentioned the TV will not allow set up to proceed or hdmi outputs to be used until the set up is complete.
      removing the card may need to be done after initial set up.

      People still buy TVs? I thought that was a dead market, a relic of boomers and gen x. Why the frick would I buy a tv? i don't watch television and even if I wanted to I can just pirate any movie I want and view it on my computer monitor.
      I'm really clueless as to who the dumbfricks are that still buy obsolete technology like TVs these days.

      >kid brain who sits on a laptop watching lame ass anime and streaming like a broke ass thinks he is ahead of the curve.
      pipe down kid brain adults are speaking, not everyone wants to hover on a small screen to watch zoomer homosexual noises.

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >enter service menu
    >disable all trackers ads
    >look up a list of urls to block on your router for your TV manufacturer
    >if you still feel you need to, enable hospitality mode in the service menu

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Turn off you TV's WIFI. Connect a Roku to the HDMI port.

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, we told all you homosexuals this a long time ago and you guys called us schizo. You still do. Dumb homos

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How about NOT hooking it up to the internet, dumb fricks

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Buy a "smart" TV and dont give it your wifi password. Bam, no more "smart". Watch through HDMI. Only drawback is that they'll take a minute to boot.

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I would imagine most smart TVs have little cards for their wifi adapter like laptops, right? Thinking about poking around in my TV and seeing if I can remove that capability so I can be sure that it's only talking over the wired interface into the isolated subnet.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Or why not just remove the camera and mics?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because it's less feasible? If I can pull out a card and use networking to stop the device (which is trivial on a LAN level) from doing what it is doing why would I go with a destructive method and potentially damage the TV?

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm planning to buy a laser projector for under $800 to replace my plasma tv when it dies. How moronic am I?

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can someone provide proof that smart TVs actually DO have a camera that looks back at the viewer?

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just buy a smart TV and remove the WIFI antenna if you are worried about it connecting to random open networks.

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People still buy TVs? I thought that was a dead market, a relic of boomers and gen x. Why the frick would I buy a tv? i don't watch television and even if I wanted to I can just pirate any movie I want and view it on my computer monitor.
    I'm really clueless as to who the dumbfricks are that still buy obsolete technology like TVs these days.

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Buy giant smart tv
    >Buy universal dumb control board for 30 bucks
    >Swap smart control board for dumb board
    >Enjoy $100s in savings
    Notable downside is ports won't align with the case and you'll have to modify it

  38. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >buy smart tv
    >set hdmi 1 as a default input
    >disable smart menu or whatever
    >plug it into PC
    >never have to deal with the adware bullshit
    This is how you use TVs if you're not an npc.

  39. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Jews

  40. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Literally any pawn shop has like 20 flat screen TVs from 2005 that do exactly what you want

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's so hard about:

    [1] buy large computer monitor
    [2] connect via DisplayPort or w/e
    [3] connect Blu-Ray player, DVD Player, Computer

    Access media, games through any of 3 connected devices--never connect monitor to Intardnet.

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