Why is Silmarillion so hated?

It's basically my first ever book I'll read (bar the ones I've read for school). I'm a huge LOTR fan (movies), and I really fricking hope I'll like it and that basically anyone else is just a midwit IQ pleb.

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Read The Hobbit instead. No, the movies are not a good representation of the book, they are a better representation of Warner Brother's greed.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I liked the Hobbit movies.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because you haven't read the Hobbit. For the LOTR movies, they did a 3 hour movie for each 400 pages book, so 1200 pages = 9 hours. Now, with The Hobbit, they made 3 movies of 3 hours each for a 150 pages book. So 150 pages = 9 hours. See how it doesn't makes any sense? The movies are full of filler that completely ruins the pace.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          for a 250 pages book*

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because you haven't read the Hobbit. For the LOTR movies, they did a 3 hour movie for each 400 pages book, so 1200 pages = 9 hours. Now, with The Hobbit, they made 3 movies of 3 hours each for a 150 pages book. So 150 pages = 9 hours. See how it doesn't makes any sense? The movies are full of filler that completely ruins the pace.

        Read The Hobbit instead. No, the movies are not a good representation of the book, they are a better representation of Warner Brother's greed.

        the hobbit is the only example i can think of audiobooks that are shorter than the movies

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It makes a million times more sense to start with LOTR or with the Hobbit. Silmarillion is the book you read after you finished the books and you just can't get enough of it. Its not a starter book.

      The silmarillion is not a novel moron, its more of a reference book, you will be massively disappointed if you approach it from that perspective and expect tolkien to be expository about a dozen different stories that take place over a span of thousands of years. Do what you are told and read lotr first.

      These guys get it.
      OP, the Silmarillion stretches thousands of years, but your brain doesn't. I don't mean this in a snarky way, it's just that the Silmarillion reads more like the Old Testament. Hell, if you love the movies you might even be bored to death by LotR. Either way, it's not like you need the background knowledge of Silmarillion to enjoy the other books.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It makes a million times more sense to start with LOTR or with the Hobbit. Silmarillion is the book you read after you finished the books and you just can't get enough of it. Its not a starter book.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bullshit.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The silmarillion is not a novel moron, its more of a reference book, you will be massively disappointed if you approach it from that perspective and expect tolkien to be expository about a dozen different stories that take place over a span of thousands of years. Do what you are told and read lotr first.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shut the frick up c**t

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He's right though no need to sperg out about it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        c**t is the name of your mother's left nipple, you were sucking on it yesterday weren't you homosexual?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >its more of a reference book

      t. didn't actually read the book

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    op that book is just a long list of names

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Which is not out of place for what the book is. I and II Book of Kings in the Old Testament is mostly a long list of names, too.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    who the hell hates the Silmarillion?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't hate it but it isn't very good, it was unfinished pieces that Tolkien never wanted published that were kludged together by the estate after his death as a cash in opportunity. It's got a lot of great ideas and pieces of stories that are amazing, in a sense it's his life's work, but it's not close to a finished work like the Hobbit or LOTR, so it just isn't satisfying in the same way

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You do know Tolkien wanted to publish The Silmarillion together with The Lord of the Rings, right?

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It takes a while to get into
    Just keep on going
    Once you get to Fëanor the Silmarillion becomes amazing

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Once you get to Fëanor
      What was his fricking problem?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Didn't Melkor have something to do with that? It's been so long.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He was a maniac from literally the day he was born, like, his mom was so worn out just by giving birth to him that she went to take a nap and instead of sleeping she DIED

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I think Feanor was eru's spark in reining in melkor, just like gollum getting the ring destroyed. He was the only elf who saw the Valar's weaknesses and called them out on it and what did they do, they admonish him and banish his people instead of helping him fight melkor, it takes wanton death, caused by feanor's actions, because he eventually understood what it would take to defeat morgoth, to force the valar to intervene.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I really liked it, I love history and it's basically like a mythology history book, idk maybe I have autism

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The true goat of Tolkien is children of Hurin.

    I recommend:
    Hobbit
    LotR
    Silmarillion
    lotr
    Children of Hurin
    Beren and Luthien
    Fall of Gondolin

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's an incredible masterpiece OP. I would recommend reading the Hobbit and LoTR first, but definitely read the Silmarillion.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I really enjoyed it

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Silmarillion spans a very long time, OP. It's not a story like the Hobbit is a story. It's a historical record in the fashion of the old sagas.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >read
    this, as with all tolkein, is meant to be consumed via audiobook

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Normal people don't read the index for fun.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you gotta read lotr first and be prepared for a style shift otherwise you'll get filtered

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do you like boring things? Prepare for some truly boring. Here's a dead guy's notes he never meant for anyone to see about a book that was already pretty boring. Oh look and it's in a language he just made up. Set to meter. For singing.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what book are you talking about?
      I'd like to read it

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Iliad. Start with the greeks anon.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >image
      I fricking cackled

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you do realise that iq is not the only indicator of intelligence?

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Made up Anglo-cope mythology is boring

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why is Silmarillion so hated?
    because people think it's a book with story and a main character, when in reality it's just a hodge podge of various world building efforts by Tolkien.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Huh? Nobody hates it. It also mogs the trilogy hard

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Silmarillion/Unfinished Tales are the only Tolkien books I can stand. I've read the Silmarillion twice through but have never been able to get through the opening bits of either The Hobbit or LOTR. I find the imagery of the Years of the Lamps and Years of the Trees and the arcing tragedy of Beleriand inescapable and haunting, but I don't really care that much about the chronologically later stories except as framing devices for exemplifying how forgotten the earliest age are

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