Why is the existence of different human races widely disputed these days? It seems bizarre in an age where we can

Why is the existence of different human races widely disputed these days? It seems bizarre in an age where we can

>identify what ethnicity a person who died thousands of years ago was solely from their skeletal remains
>use DNA tests to identify what percentage of ethnic groups a person belongs to

Is “there is no race but the human race” a legitimate scientific position or a political one in response to WW2 and anti racist agendas?

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    "Legitimate" already means it is enforced politically and militarily.

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    what ethnicity a person who died thousands of years ago was solely from their skeletal remains
    You have much much much better tests than that to actually get solid data.

    >use DNA tests to identify what percentage of ethnic groups a person belongs to
    Relies on having a large ass sample base so many groups are still terribly neglected on that front in terms of sample pools. Doesn't help that oeivacy concerns are a very real issue and people from private/academic settinga keep gathering genetic data without either openly sharing it, telling the people what it's used for or some other slimy shit.

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    You already know why and you answered your own question. Biological race absolutely exists when you confine it to the field of medical research, but suddenly stops existing when you start looking at cognitive development. You're not allowed to talk about it, you will not be published and will be forced out of whatever research / teaching position you have if you try to start a conversation.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >suddenly stops existing when you start looking at cognitive development.
      Because we can't do unethical experiments on kids on top of making perfectly replicatable experiment scenarios. It's not some conspiracy

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        And not even the Chinese give two shits about it because there's way way way more important and or lucrative things to research.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        1.Giving children cognitive tests is not unethical and causes no harm to the children.
        2.You can use adults.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      "Population" is now used instead of "race" because it was revealed how population genetics exactly work. So nothing actually happened, you may return to /misc/ freely.

      Europeans and Middle Easterners are the same race, they are West Eurasians
      The races are
      >South Africans
      >Western Pygmies
      >Eastern Pygmies
      >West Africans
      >Nilotes
      >West Eurasians
      >Australian Aborigines and Papuans
      >East Asians
      Perhaps Native Americans as well.

      >All extremely genetically diverse groups.
      Not much more diverse than any other population, in fact many of these are bottlenecked and inbred as hell.

      >mixing
      Doesn't matter for the existence of race, because they are mixtures of races. Can't have mixtures if the thing you mix doesn't exist.

      Because what we call "races" don't actually correlate to a specific genetic profile, and is mostly just based on visual skin color and face morphology shit that doesn't always match other genetic differences.

      Germans and Japanese people have more genetically in common with each other then some specific Native groups in Mexico do with one another: https://www.science.org/content/article/people-mexico-show-stunning-amount-genetic-diversity yet obviously people would group in all those native groups together into one "race".

      This is why even though stuff like Sickle Cell Anemnia is often said to be more of a risk for people with African Ancestry, it's actually really just an issue for some specific ethnic groups from specific parts of Africa, but your average black guy in chicago or miami or whatever isn't going to know if they've got Bantu or Nubian etc ancestry so they just tell everybody whose black to get checked.

      also this is /misc/ or IQfy, not a IQfy topic

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    How many races are there, and where does one race end and another begin?

    People see Europeans and Middle Easterners as seperate races, but then group most of SubSaharan Africa as one race which doesn't make sense genetically.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Europeans and Middle Easterners are the same race, they are West Eurasians
      The races are
      >South Africans
      >Western Pygmies
      >Eastern Pygmies
      >West Africans
      >Nilotes
      >West Eurasians
      >Australian Aborigines and Papuans
      >East Asians
      Perhaps Native Americans as well.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Africans
        Pygmies
        Pygmies
        >>West Africans

        All extremely genetically diverse groups. Even Melanesians have mixed with Austronesians at various levels on parts of SEA

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >All extremely genetically diverse groups.
          Not much more diverse than any other population, in fact many of these are bottlenecked and inbred as hell.

          >mixing
          Doesn't matter for the existence of race, because they are mixtures of races. Can't have mixtures if the thing you mix doesn't exist.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Not much more diverse than any other population
            Because a lot if Nilotes are mixed

            >Doesn't matter for the existence of race, because they are mixtures of race
            When they are mixed as duck and the only difference between one and the ither at this point is language and culture it causes issues with the categories.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's the point, you can assign people on various amounts of the different races and this applies to all humans regardless of how mixed they are. At one point these races split apart during the Middle or Upper Paleolithic and thus the split time is extremely long. Also animal subspecies exist on clines and are also mixed and they aren't invalidated by this. You just have to stop thinking about races as strict categories where everybody has only one race and that all populations are strictly one race

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >At one point these races split apart during the Middle or Upper Paleolithic and thus the split time is extremely long
            Then proceeded to travel, mix, absorb conquer and so on and so forth over time. Remember all that population backflow into Africa. Just using ethnicity is easier at this point.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            The structures formed such a long time ago that they form almost all genetic variation today.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            And most mixtures are very recent only happening in the Metal Ages.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        You forgot Native American, Central and South Asian, Horn Africa and Sudan, Madagascar etc

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      European + Turkish race
      Middle Eastern + North African race
      West African + Bantu + Nilote race
      Western Pigmy race
      Eastern Pigmy race
      South African race
      South Asian race
      East Asian race
      Southeast Asian race
      Oceanian race
      Native American race

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Don't you dare put us together with Turks.

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Why is the existence of different human races widely disputed these days? It seems bizarre in an age where we can
    All modern populations are most likely mixes of variosu species so races aren't real

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Your claim is wrong and based on nothing
      The only cases of interspecies mixing is West Africans with Paleo-West African population, Eurasians with Neanderthals and Australians with Denisovans
      These don't explain the human population genetic structure

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    "Population" is now used instead of "race" because it was revealed how population genetics exactly work. So nothing actually happened, you may return to /misc/ freely.

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Races as a whole don't exist, it is just a classification we create based on similarities so the standard is the one scientists want.
    Every individual in unique and has unique mutations that make him/her different from the rest and viceversa.

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only actual reason is because european humans suffer from a genetic mental psychosis where they must always look like a hero 24/7 so they cannot believe in facts that would make them look villainous like
    >human races are very different from each other
    >women are subhuman compared to men
    >some people are literally just born evil due to their brain structure
    >hard work doesnt mean shit

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The migrations in your pic happened way before the emergence of distinct human races. Before the advent of agriculture, humans were all incredibly transient creatures and we were all some ambiguous shade of brown, it was the emergence of agriculture and civilization that forced humans into sedentary lifestyles, being forced into sedentary lifestyles then forces us to adopt skin/facial characteristics to adapt to our local enviornments. Thats why race is so closely tied to civilization, its because the two literally developed alongside eachother

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