Why was cleavage so common in historical Europe?

I always thought that modesty in Europe had always been taken very seriously until the 1920s, but it seems more or less strictly a Victorian phenomenon. Did men force women to expose them for their own pleasure? What did the Church think of this?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    apparently some englishwomen used to walk around with their breasts fully out, with the nipples coloured rouge, just like those old mycenean wenches

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Englishwomen also used to bathe naked in the same room as men in bathhouses before the Victorian era. It varied throughout Europe and time periods, but in multiple areas from medieval to early modern era, Europeans casually bathed naked in mixed-gender settings (with non-family present) without it being considered inappropriate or weird.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >we have to go back

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dog European women had the biggest breasts? That would make sense why they show cleavge more

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      "Do you like that which produces shit or milk?"

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >"Do you like woman that have hips to carry your children, or mommy Milkers for me to suckky on"

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Cope

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >US is butts country
      Thanks, Jamal for literally shitting up this place

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I won't like butts because Black folk and south Americans like butts
      are you a homosexual or something I'm confused.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I like butts just fine but I can't imagine preferring them over boobs.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      White countries in blue

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have heard that breast size in Medieval times averaged a B cup and now it averages a C cup.
    >Also can't confirm with source because don't care and I just heard it one time somewhere

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Probably true. People have access to a lot more food now, for better and for worse.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Displaying bobs was a noveau rich English/French aristocracy thing. In most of the rest of Europe dress was far more modest. You certainly did not see this in Germany for instance.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Some of those outfits are impressive for the shaping effect they have on not particularly buxom woman… i.e kierra knight in pirate carribeaner

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It wasn't, that's just modern brainrot being imposed on the past through media

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is that meme a criticism? because it started becoming very fashionable for upperclass women to display cleavage around the turn of the 19th century.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You fricking dumbass
    The west was always the capital of degeneracy of the world and still is.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hi Ivan

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nudity is not inherently sexual, this is an american invention.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes it is.
      If someone gets naked in front of you or you see someone naked, you must have sex with them.
      Its a real law, that predates the Bible.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Did Ham have gay sex with his dad

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          That is an interpretation of that passage that some people argue for

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's the opposite of a Victorian phenomenon, the Victorian era had a reaction against cleavage which was widespread in the Georgian (1714 to 1830) era.

    Pic rel is a victorian woman

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I remember reading an Ottoman ambassador in 19h century Europe attending a ball and refusing to believe being told that the women dancing were the attendee's wives, and not professional courtesans.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Most European women are flat chested so it isn't very sexual

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