Why was healthcare in late USSR so terrible? Isn't healthcare the one thing socialism is supposed to be good at?

Why was healthcare in late USSR so terrible? Isn't healthcare the one thing socialism is supposed to be good at?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >why
    because communism kills its supporters

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Sage

    Beats literally dying because it's privatized and you can't afford the cost.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this literally doesn't happen
      hospitals have an obligation to treat anyone who comes in with a legitimate medical issue
      you just get your heart attack taken care of then declare bankruptcy afterwards and live without netflix and a leased BMW until your credit is built back up

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this literally doesn't happen
      hospitals have an obligation to treat anyone who comes in with a legitimate medical issue
      you just get your heart attack taken care of then declare bankruptcy afterwards and live without netflix and a leased BMW until your credit is built back up

      In fact, in the United States, it's actually against the law for a hospital to even bill you until after they've treated you for an emergency.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this, OP is both a moron and a homosexual
      /thread

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ok, now pull the number of how many people died in the U S of Israel due to not affording healthcare at that same time frame

      >unironically fell for agitprop from Reddit

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Beats literally dying because it's privatized and you can't aff... ACK

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Funny thing is year 1979 can be considered peak USSR, nobody would say that USSR had problems then. But at the same time 1979 was lockal minium of the Soviet men life expectancy [...].
        Excellent storefront but people are literally dying behind it. Soviets were excellent at hiding truth and replacing it with fake facade of the Potemkin village propaganda.

        Funniest thing is when people start graphs during the middle of gorbachevs anti alcohol campaign to show how bad life expectancy got after the fall

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ah yes Gorbochov, my favorite WW2 leader

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ok, now pull the number of how many people died in the U S of Israel due to not affording healthcare at that same time frame

      this, OP is both a moron and a homosexual
      /thread

      How good do you think the rest of the healthcare is if they're spreading HIV with dirty syringes?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Afro Saxon

        No different from today? Capitalists would probably hide it and cut corners.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think that the eventual end result of Obamacare is that people will be mandated by the government to attend doctor appointments every year. No more skipping healthcare to save money. They will say that this is an altruistic way to ensure equitable healthcare for all, but the true intent is to get more mRNA shots in arms and get more people saddled with medical debt. You’re seeing a ton of hospital consolidations and rural hospital closures over the past couple decades so the stage is being set for only a handful of conglomerates to control all healthcare services in the US. And then Blackrock and their ilk will start buying these massive multi-state health systems. And they need to make sure people use these services and pay their exorbitant prices once big investment funds and banks take over. So I could see it becoming illegal to skip your yearly doctor appointment and avoid medical care.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >AAAAAAAAAAAA I HAVE A DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT EVERY YEAR I'M GOING INSAAAAAAAAANE
        Anon you'll be lucky to have a doctor under socialism, every country with socialized healthcare has a doctor shortage because they move to places where they can run a private practice

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Anon you'll be lucky to have a doctor under socialism, every country with socialized healthcare has a doctor shortage
          You are wrong about USSR and doctors availability. Because Soviets in their Soviet fashion pushed up formal indicators. Hospital beds per 1000 population, doctors numbers per 1000 population. Problem with this like it always happens with enterprise run by centralized beuracracy these indicators become perversion not connected to actual state of things.
          You got appointment with a doctor so what? This doctor is dumb 50 years old grandma that has thermometer, stethoscope, sphygmomanometer, who uses outdated medic guidelines coppied from western 40 years old medical books And that is it. How can she make diagnosis? Even general blood test was a problem, hospitals always low on test kits, you need to be literally dying to get this test. Basic cardiogram? You would be waiting MONTHs in Moscow, in province you can wait year and you need to travel 500 km into republic capital.
          Markers tests? Endoscopy? Forget this bourgeoisie perversion.
          And even if you get diagnosis? How do you threat illness? Aspirin, brilliant green, and nitroglycerin are only medical drugs available, tough luck Chud.

          Like any economic student can tell you if you set formal goals of quantity (numbers of doctors for example) but don't control quality system woud develop into direction of chugging out maximum numbers of absolutely low shit and useless "doctors".

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Same is happening in Europe. Private equity is buying up doctor's practices where possible.
        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10234640/

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ok, now pull the number of how many people died in the U S of Israel due to not affording healthcare at that same time frame

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Twittee screenshots
    >no source
    Die

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://link.springer.com/book/10.1057/9780230603394

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >late USSR
    You answered your own question

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that's like a quarter of its run (1970-91)

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Funny thing is year 1979 can be considered peak USSR, nobody would say that USSR had problems then. But at the same time 1979 was lockal minium of the Soviet men life expectancy

      https://i.imgur.com/H0t0KTB.gif

      >Beats literally dying because it's privatized and you can't aff... ACK

      .
      Excellent storefront but people are literally dying behind it. Soviets were excellent at hiding truth and replacing it with fake facade of the Potemkin village propaganda.

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