Why was the US intelligence community so incredibly terrible at their job during the cold war?

Why was the US intelligence community so incredibly terrible at their job during the cold war?
Learning about their history during then makes them seem comically incompetent.

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They're still incompetent at their job, but when you literally have to work with the largest employer on Earth (The DoD) then from that perspective, I don't think anyone would be able to handle classified information 100 percent of the time, logically something is going to leak sooner or later

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's not just their handling of classified information though, I mean they were/are just straight up incompetent.
      For example, when the highest ranking KGB agent ever, Penkovsky, wanted to go double agent for the West, they sent an inexperienced, drunken field operative to set up the correspondence and almost immediately blew his cover.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The CIA has always pulled their agents from the general population, its a higher liability, but hiring literal nobodies and having them blow cover is much safer than them losing one of their top operatives.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          They squandered one of their best moles barely 2 years after he made himself known though, whilst the Soviets had multiple moles in the CIA and FBI that operated unnoticed for decades.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Because authoritarian regimes are really good at counter-intelligence for very obvious reasons which allows them find spies or at least deter them from doing anything.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That doesnt explain how people born in the west can turn double agent for the Soviets and remain undetected for years while people born in the east turn double agent for the Americans and get liquidated after a year or two.
            The intelligence community of the West is in every sense of the word incompetent at their job, the only reason they get anything done today is because of bulk data collection.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Because the west isn't a totalitarian shithole like Russia and tolerates dissenting viewpoints

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            is this what tolerance looks like?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            unironic yes

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >That doesnt explain how people born in the west can turn double agent for the Soviets
            Because they were either Communist sympathizers or were just given a shit ton of money.
            >and remain undetected for years
            Because they were usually high up in the government so they were able to easily cover their trials.
            >people born in the east turn double agent for the Americans and get liquidated after a year or two.
            Because like I said earlier the USSR is authoritarian regime with an extensive security network in place to monitor and weed out potential spies which they can get away with due to the lack of civil liberties.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Civil liberties only exist nominally in the west doe

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >No but what about America they did the thing

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >America sucks at espionage because they respect civil liberties even though they routinely violate said civil liberties at every opportunity

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            In the sense the Soviet government was able to get away with much more shit yes

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Examples?

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because the USSR was propped up in order to allow the direction of economic and political energy towards specific goals. The Cold War wasn't about "how do we beat the ruskis" it was about "how do we use the USSR to justify what we want to do".

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >how do we use the USSR to justify what we want to- oops all of our operatives are dead or exposed lol
      repeat ad nausem

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >caring about agents
        >when your """"""""opponent""""" is entirely dependent upon you to give them food, petroleum, textiles, and even fricking accounting information of their own economy

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The problem with D.o.D. in general is that it's largely a money laundering scheme. In other words, the main incentive for being a fed is to make money and earn a pension. If there is a mole in your organization and you fail to notice him, do you think you'll lose your paycheck, or your pension? Nope. Why give a shit about that when you're just there to collect money?
    You are clearly uninformed about how D.o.D. operates, but I can't blame you about it. Like I said, 95% are just there to collect a check. They don't give a shit about moles or anything. The only thing you will ever get in trouble for is being a hyper-shitbag, like being an alcoholic or breaking actual laws or something.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Central Intelligence Agency
      >sucks at their job (collection of intelligence and counter intelligence)
      >and youll defend it because muh capitalism
      lenin wasnt wrong when he said that capitalists will sell the rope with which the people will hang them with lol

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >It's another episode of IQfy talking about Le Glowies while having zero understanding about intelligence gathering or basic espionage

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >t. triggerd glowtard

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Le gigachad
        >Le wojak
        >Le Twitter clown meme

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          so how was the langley christmas party, agent rodriguez?

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