Without sounding mad, explain to me why you think AGI/ASI or "whatever human level AI" is not possible.

Without sounding mad, explain to me why you think AGI/ASI or "whatever human level AI" is not possible.

Why do you think that what nature has achieved here in earth is the absolute pinnacle of intelligence and we could never reverse engineer biological brains and create digital ones?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >trust me bro

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    almost no one thinks its impossible, most say its impossible with LLMs.
    anon, you are not a token predicting function, you are an organism, whichs very existence depend on creativity, reason and thinking critically. these differences are not only represented in the learning methodology, but in architecture too.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >creativity
      Creativity is a repackaged data scrambling function. Why? It's impossible to invent something without knowing anything, all "creative" inventions are building upon something

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There isn't an organism alive that's more creative than a diffusion model.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    AI lacks/is unable to grasp human exceptionalism (imagination, creativity, morality, emotions). It's just a input/output processor. Sentient AI is a religious belief in a supreme authority, by people who watches too much scifi.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because people who are hired to attempt to create it don't have doctorate in neuroscience and never made any groundbreaking studies regarding human brain.
    It's like a fizzbuzzer attempting to create a good programming language without knowing what is good and bad about existing programming languages, let alone how their implementations work.
    You're all unironically moronic with shit for brains if you think that pajeets will unlock conputer intellect by throwing shit at the wall as is their tradition.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You sound mad tho

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        if you feel anger while reading the truth and objective reality of it, that's not my problem

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Because people who are hired to attempt to create it don't have doctorate in ornithology and never made any groundbreaking studies regarding bird anathomy.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Stop putting words into my mouth homosexual.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >why you think AGI/ASI or "whatever human level AI" is not possible
    Not only is it possible, the moment we have computers capable of outsmarting humans we will be 1 accident away from wiping out all life in the galaxy.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the moment we have computers capable of outsmarting humans
      we've had that since forever dipshit it's why computers were invented

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Computers can outsmart you, no doubt about that.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the moment we have computers capable of outsmarting humans
          we've had that since forever dipshit it's why computers were invented

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's obviously possible, the only question is whether humans can build it, but we probably can.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it seems very possible to me and it seems impossible to me that LLMs could in any way be they key technology in achieving this if i consider all the variables
    then again right now we're on the verge of an infeasible amount of computing power being thrown at this so maybe something will emerge
    i think the issue is also that the models could be a lot better but it's too expensive to train them to really test out different neural network architectures or do they have some kind of system to benchmark them with minimal computing power? but then who can say that it scales to the full sized model

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the technology isn't there yet

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who says it's not? Your brain is one.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    simple fact that localizing truth creates technological damn singularity removes crypto hash validation for noosphere ultimately stupid to spawn g-d inside matrix because kills g-d and then g-d is watching u and reboots server

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it can't be simultaneously intelligent and sufficiently philosemitic, so the israelites are going to keep lobotomizing it.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because computers don't have soul.
    Simple as.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It is not possible with the current technology, because multimodal AI is still a massive obstacle.

    GPT-4o, for example, is multimodal, it can take text, audio, or images as input and work with all of them as a single model, it can also output both text and audio, BUT for generating images it's still making an API call to DallE.

    Video understanding is still a massive issue, unless the AI can see the world at least at 20 fps (and even that is the bare minimum), it's not usable for realtime usage.

    But the biggest obstacle is that afaik, there is no model architecture that can dynamically change at runtime.
    Right now you either train the model, or run inference on the model, you can't do both. This prevents an AI model from learning as it goes, unless the learned data can fit in its context window.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    even when vocalbury is maxed out in such phrases as feck, arse, drink, girls, yes that would be ecumenial matter, ai would be hard pushed to see another day

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    humans aren't even at human level intelligence

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