Yeezus

so what are the implications of a personal creator/firmament to existence that sympathizes so much with the problem of evil that he seeks atonement for our misconceptions like in the story of jesus?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There is...
    No creator
    No personal deity
    No afterlife
    No judgment
    No ultimate goal
    No meaning to our existence beyond the ones we assign on ourselves

    • 1 month ago
      Dionysus-Priopos

      so all there is is the self? and we can interact with it and give it meaning? tell me more please since you speak so authoritatively

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You, the concrete world around you and the people you share that world with are all you need.
        Meaning is something we make & share with each others as we establish and express ourselves in the world.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          But you will die, and the people around you do evil and get no punishment, why doing good if you get no reward and just die and turn into nothing? Nothing you do matters without a grand plan from a creator going beyond death

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >you will die
            That is most likely true, yes.
            >people do evil
            People have their own intent and interests that may contrafict mines and the ones of the collective
            >they get no punishment
            It's up to the collective to punish what it considers wrongdoers that endanger its integrity, it can only blame itself for failling to punish those.
            >doing good gets no reward
            Picking up some trash and putting it in the garbage gets you no reward. Why would you want one? It's not a job you're being paid for. Do you want your peers to see how much of a good boy you are and get praise? That's rather petty. The real reason you do it is because you believe in the collective's interest of enjoying walking around without trash everywhere. That's your reward and it's a common effort.
            >die and turn into nothing
            Yeah I will die, yeah my conscious self will fade forever. But I won't "turn into nothing" it won't be as if I never existed. Simply existing causes a butterfly effect, the more I did in this life the more people I influenced, the more efforts I put into lasting things the more the marks I left on it will be noticeable. We live on an hill built by millions of our ancestors. Civilization, modern luxuries & technology didn't spawn overnight. I will be satisfied leaving my own marks on that hill before being buried into the past.
            >nothing you do matters
            It does to me so you're wrong, what other people are doing as well.
            >grand plan
            We can decide on one ourseves
            >creator
            Unneeded
            >beyond death
            Are memories

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >why doing good if you get no reward and just die and turn into nothing?
            You are exactly the type of people God is trying to weed out. God is seeking the chosen few who do good because it is the right thing to do.

        • 1 month ago
          Dionysus-Priopos

          so there is the self, the other and the natural world. there is also this phenomenon called meaning we can generate and its all the self needs? please tell me what this meaning is and why we need it?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Information mixing intelligence, intent and emotion. We express and recognize it through our actions, languages, arts and all kinds of symbolics.
            There is nothing mystical about it

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Atheists really go outside(they don't) and see the beauty of God's perfect creation yet still claim "there is no meaning to it"

          • 1 month ago
            Dionysus-Priopos

            okay but what is this meaning you had searched after and found? meaning is derived from many places unless you mean the platonic idea of meaning? then i ask what does that shadow look like to you? is it the definition you just gave because that seems paltry in comparison to meaning derived from the eternal? unless you deny the eternal?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            There is no meaning to be found that exists outside of humanity, it must always relate to us as the sole known makers of meaning.
            Pursuing "greater meaning" is chasing after a chimera, looking outward for something inward. It is vain thus vague, chasing a ghost in the fog.
            Religions use that vagueness to lure people in and have them run in circles in the fog chasing ghosts.

            Meaning isn't eternal, it is ceases once it no longer is shared or recognized. Symbols become scribbles and words become noises.

            The world is transformative, gradual complexification gave rise to life and to us, complex enough to be sentient agents, we built over that a society made and shared meaning to one another. The only thing that is irreducively eternal is the transformative/changing/moving nature of Existence. We exist in such a world and gain desires, needs & wants, interets both egoist & collective, volition & ambition through them we form our own meaning, purpose & ideals to walk toward.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Estimated IQ: 113

          • 1 month ago
            Dionysus-Priopos

            exactly what i said, a slightly above average intelligence individual who clings to intellectual superiority (based in psychosis) to not kill himself

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >t.

            im sorry sir but that is gibberish. if meaning is apart of an eternal existence, whether it ebbs and flows is immaterial as it is as eternal as existence. and again, if the eternal is real then our relationship to it seems to be a much greater place to find what we need then the narcissistic and human centric definition of meaning your positing

            >that is gibberish
            >if meaning is apart of an eternal existence, whether it ebbs and flows is immaterial as it is as eternal as existence
            >slightly above average intelligence individual who clings to intellectual superiority (based in psychosis) to not kill himself
            pottery

          • 1 month ago
            Dionysus-Priopos

            notice you have been dancing around actual points and using pretty words? we all notice and its hilarious you dont. simple question dude. do you believe in the eternal and if you do what is the definition of meaning in an eternal environment? the definition you gave has no meat and isn't acceptable to any real debate.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >we
            Holy moly you're a gay

          • 1 month ago
            Dionysus-Priopos

            holy moly you took such an extreme position

            There is...
            No creator
            No personal deity
            No afterlife
            No judgment
            No ultimate goal
            No meaning to our existence beyond the ones we assign on ourselves

            and fell apart with just the slightest bit of prodding. reverting to some kumbaiya about how meaning is all we need and were te only tings in existence that can create it. answer the question fedora gay.

          • 1 month ago
            Dionysus-Priopos

            also yes tis is a public forum full of incel atheist yet your receiving no help? its because there is noting tat can be saved when you say such stupid things

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Why are you so bitter and angry?

          • 1 month ago
            Dionysus-Priopos

            jesus christ are all you fedora gays the same person? i swear to god you all follow the same script. im not bitter, i started a thread talking about perfect love and you came in here with stupidity and psychosis. i tried to indulge you but the shear immaturity to so flagrantly spread your psychosis and incoherent delusions is appalling and needs to be called out. your over here saying everyone else is and has always been stupid while you have the secret sauce that you conveniently cant explain. its laughably prideful if not for being so psychotic. i blame neil degrasse tyson-chicken nuggets for your breed

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >the definition you gave has no meat and isn't acceptable to any real debate.
            lmao

          • 1 month ago
            Dionysus-Priopos

            so you think his answer was an acceptable one to what is the definition of meaning in an eternal environment?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >the definition of meaning in an eternal environment
            You're there now. Again, you tell me

          • 1 month ago
            Dionysus-Priopos

            dude your the one who is making these claims. im hoping you have perfect truth and can explain to me how you make these wild statements. it seems you cant.

            meaning is derived from god choosing to take part in creation so that we may exist. we find our meaning when we do what it takes to exist eternally with others in a way that flourishes, your meaning will be found in your struggle to survive

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >meaning is derived from god
            why discuss anything at all? you have perfect truth it seems

          • 1 month ago
            Dionysus-Priopos

            god is fundamentally limitless, i will spend eternity trying and failing to fully understand him. building up me and my preconceptions to be broken and reformed in a better way over and over again. i do this because i love god. i love god because of what i DO know about him. that he is good.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            There is nothing to understand, there is only vagueness in the concept of God. You pursue an imaginary ghost in the fog

          • 1 month ago
            Dionysus-Priopos

            god is the amalgamation of all possible existence with a self and logic being included

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            If he's everything then he's nothing, there is no God

          • 1 month ago
            Dionysus-Priopos

            nothing is still a thing. tho you are right that god does include nothingness, you would do well to meditate on that idea and come to understand symbols like the yin yang are meant to be understood as a whole. tho think about what you just said dude, you presesnted an argument that is absurd because you heard it in a different context and your pulling anything out as you flail denying truth?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Nothing is not a real thing, it's a concept that denotes absence.
            You, by putting God everywhere, you put him nowhere.

          • 1 month ago
            Dionysus-Priopos

            you dont even know the theology your espousing little man. your saying when you look at everything, everything has its equal and opposite which either looks like nothing or blinding light depending on your point of view and leaves no room for consciousness. your misinterpretation is you screaming everything is nothing and nothing matters while not understanding the phrase "nothing matters" is profound when your not a pseudo intellectual fedora gay. like come on dude just say it already. you think everything is nothing and tat thisnt really happening right now. would be sad if not for you spreading your psychosis

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >theology
            None genius
            >nothing matters
            Didn't say that, low tier strawman.
            Nothing matters until it does to us, we're the ones that judge and produce meaning.

            https://i.imgur.com/zdR0gwL.png

            "Dude nothing matters lmao make your own rules"
            Funny how these people end up following the rules of society 99% of the time, nothing original, just a cog in the machine. You got your moronic ideas from the powers that be that wishes to polarize everyone so they can divide an conquer

            "What matters is being remembered!"
            For what, 50 years? 100? Even if you somehow became a great person your memory would be removed from existence whenever the sun explodes and removes earth. Such a memory is vanity, useless.

            Comprehending the dread of limited existence must be the true npc filter, I can't imagine being so shallow that you can't comprehend the futility of life without God. Some sort of Robot content with pure vanity that is. Happy is the pig wallowing in his filth.

            >you must reinvente the wheel if you disagree with a single part of the car!!!
            No you don't
            >being remembered
            It doesn't matter if they remember your name and life, what matters is if they feel the influence of your life even so sightly. Butterfly effect. Your life wasn't vain. We're living in such a world, just look around you and think *who* could have built all those things. All the efforts that were put for you to be here. If you value yourself you will recognize their value too.

            You praise "God" for things you should be praising "Man".
            Hypothetically, did you survive cancer because of God or because of the medical theme that removed the tumor through intensive surgery and provided you the right medication?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Medical team*
            Yeah turns out you're not God's special one and this life isn't some silly trial, you're man living in a world of men and your actions affect other men with theirs affecting you.

          • 1 month ago
            Dionysus-Priopos

            your saying nothing matters until you say it does dude. then you spout some some homosexualry about nothing doesnt exist but everything is nothing so god doesnt exist. your flailing and failing hard.

            you seem to be a little IQ, when someone thanks god for surviving cancer he is thanking the thing that allows for existence to be. he is saying that existence, even in the face of his suffering, is good and he is thankful for the gift of life. your so self centered you think it has anything to do with some doctors ego.

            so now we reach the point where i ask for your epistemology and philosophy so we can point and laugh. you seem to be switching between fedora gay tier Buddhism and single mom tier magic crystal spirituality and im curious where you think your actual opinion about the nature of existence, the self and the other is.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >projection
            "Nothing" as the absolute absence of thing doesn't happen in the Universe.
            You claim everything is God and doing so God becomes *no thing*, it loses its being by being unspecified and unspecifiable.

          • 1 month ago
            Dionysus-Priopos

            your fricking moronic dude. im sorry to say you have brought nothing to this discussion and everyone is a little dumber for having interacted with you.

            if you want redemption present an actual philosophy or what nothing means because rn? your to stupid to understand your contradicting yourself. nothing you have said means anything and most arent even coherent sentences, you should feel shame fedora gay

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            like i cant get over this. do you know how stupid you sound? your saying nothing doesn't exist. but everything is nothing and that means if go is everything then he is nothing. thats a profound theological statement but your not even understanding it. you even think its an actual rebuttal to god as opposed to a statement further defining him. please go 0/1 irl dude, im ashamed i even interacted with you

            >seething homosexual adhom
            Btfo'd in your own thread lmao

          • 1 month ago
            Dionysus-Priopos

            dude your saying everything cant be defined. your saying nothing is everything and nothing matters until you say it does. that is the full scope of your argument. you refuse to define nothing or everything. your a disgusting seething child like fedora gay, repeating things you have heard but you dont understand and i feel comfortable telling you that without trying to save your feelings.

            define nothing, define everything? i can and have, you are some crystal single mom spiritual scholar and seem to think actual definable definitions are beyond you.

            again please go have a nice day dude, you are doing nothing but spreading psychosis with your rejection of reality and refussal to engage in anything that even remotely resembles an academic search for understanding. i feel bad for the people who have to interact with such a bad faith actor irl and you know they feel bad for themselves as well

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You're*

          • 1 month ago
            Dionysus-Priopos

            like i cant get over this. do you know how stupid you sound? your saying nothing doesn't exist. but everything is nothing and that means if go is everything then he is nothing. thats a profound theological statement but your not even understanding it. you even think its an actual rebuttal to god as opposed to a statement further defining him. please go 0/1 irl dude, im ashamed i even interacted with you

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Nothing is not a real thing
            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

            POINT AND LAUGH

            FEDORA METAPHYSICS
            ROFL

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm Scorpio & Year of the Gold Dragon btw
            Not sure it matters

          • 1 month ago
            Dionysus-Priopos

            im sorry sir but that is gibberish. if meaning is apart of an eternal existence, whether it ebbs and flows is immaterial as it is as eternal as existence. and again, if the eternal is real then our relationship to it seems to be a much greater place to find what we need then the narcissistic and human centric definition of meaning your positing

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >please tell me what this meaning is and why we need it?
            >No meaning to our existence beyond the ones we assign on ourselves
            You tell me

          • 1 month ago
            Dionysus-Priopos

            pic sounds like really good advice for staying in the stone age, bonking the dude harvesting food and playing in mud. though i agree meaning of things is a murky subject, im much more interested in your opinion on the meaning of suffering ?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable
            >sounds like really good advice for staying in the stone age
            Sounds like the exact opposite tbh.
            >your opinion on the meaning of suffering
            suffering is to joy as hot is to cold. Or maybe the other way around

          • 1 month ago
            Dionysus-Priopos

            pretty reasonable to act completely self interested and destroy innovation for short term gains in your lfetime tbh. like what works for a lot of people is staying home playing vidya and jerking off and the buddha would accept as they have tested and found it reasonable to the scorn of their elders and society

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters
            Just means don't be intellectually bigoted, that's all

            also you didnt answer my question as to what is the meaning of suffering? you just said it has the same meaning as joy but didnt define it

            I said it has the opposite meaning of joy. Re-read what I wrote

          • 1 month ago
            Dionysus-Priopos

            also you didnt answer my question as to what is the meaning of suffering? you just said it has the same meaning as joy but didnt define it

    • 1 month ago
      Dionysus-Priopos

      so all there is is the self? and we can interact with it and give it meaning? tell me more please since you speak so authoritatively

      and he wont. the reason being is that his entire philosophy is build around knowing "everything" by saying we can know nothing. its a coping mechanism for bright kids who found out they weren't geniuses but had tied there entire ego to their perceived superiority

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Inference to the best explanation.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      wut?

      cope

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >cope
        You're the one to cope tho?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Prove it larper. Steal something in person RIGHT NOW! If there really is no meaning or purpose, you would have no reason not to steal when it benefits you to do so.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Getting caught and the consequences of it goes against my interests. But I did find a 20 bucks bill the other day and kept it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Most criminal atheist(he considered turning himself up to the local authorities)

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    this comic would be better without the second panel, it adds nothing.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      We came from nothing according to atheists, they die on that hill

  3. 1 month ago
    Dionysus-Priopos

    also to answer the question of OP. the implication is that you are very loved and be as hard on yourself as you want to be

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    "Dude nothing matters lmao make your own rules"
    Funny how these people end up following the rules of society 99% of the time, nothing original, just a cog in the machine. You got your moronic ideas from the powers that be that wishes to polarize everyone so they can divide an conquer

    "What matters is being remembered!"
    For what, 50 years? 100? Even if you somehow became a great person your memory would be removed from existence whenever the sun explodes and removes earth. Such a memory is vanity, useless.

    Comprehending the dread of limited existence must be the true NPC filter, I can't imagine being so shallow that you can't comprehend the futility of life without God. Some sort of Robot content with pure vanity that is. Happy is the pig wallowing in his filth.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    worshipping a israelite raised by a cuck you mean? Yeah is something made up to keep morons busy.

    • 1 month ago
      Dionysus-Priopos

      i mean if thats the life an eternal god choose to explain his love through action then that's a pretty good indicator that he is the wellspring goodness and therefore worthy of worship.

      unless you deny the eternal and gods self evidence from it?

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