You have to buy a Google phone in order to remove Google from your phone.

Literally can't make this shit up

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why don't other phone manufacturers allow you to unlock and then relock the bootloader like Pixel phones?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      they do, just that you can only do it once and you can't use the phone afterwards
      the actual answer being that with the bootloader locked, the OS image must be signed and verified against a known key, and other manufacturers either don't let you set a custom signing key or their bootloader rejects user keys

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because muh security. You could *theoretically* unlock bootloader, flash a ROM which tampers with the bootloader/modem/secure enclave and then flash back to stock while keeping the device compromised.

      Most vendors just choose to not accept that risk in your name. You can unlock and flash your device, but they won't be legally liable from the moment you accept the agreement.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        they do, just that you can only do it once and you can't use the phone afterwards
        the actual answer being that with the bootloader locked, the OS image must be signed and verified against a known key, and other manufacturers either don't let you set a custom signing key or their bootloader rejects user keys

        Inn other words, YOU DON'T OWN YOUR DEVICE THAT YOU PAID FOR!

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          There is not a single modern desktop PC that you can truly own either. Even librebooted Thinkpads still rely on proprietary EC, microcode etc.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Au contraire, retárd. You can do whatever you want, but don't expect the manufacturer to cover your ass when you frick up.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I miss LG. That was one of the best things about their best phones.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My Motorola let me do it but come to think of it Google
    owned Motorola for a time so it's probably tainted

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Now that Lineage is dead, what else is there?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      DivestOS

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Lineage fork

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >lineage dead
      qrd?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        not sure what he means but I noticed lineage hasn't supported a new device in years

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        it's not
        still active development
        still getting weekly updates

        not sure what he means but I noticed lineage hasn't supported a new device in years

        you probably haven't looked in years

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Maintainer: Duraj Pindeep

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            NTA I don't care who develops it but if it's on the official LineageOS site that means it's a verified rom, right?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >that means it's a verified rom, right?
            Verified by who? With what process?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            verified by a pajeet sitting on the toilet with his phone

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >wipes your entire user data partition if you speak ill of the sacred cow

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      xperia 10 V should get official SailfishOS support today (though android appsupport might come later), you can also enjoy full linux userland with that and not just another android without gms calling itself OS

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Any chances for 1 V?
        10 is a crappy overpriced budget device.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          not officially, they only ever supported the 10 line, there are some unofficial community ports, but that means no android apps (outside of waydroid maybe)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There's CalyxOS, but GrapheneOS is better for privacy/security

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Something to do with security patches and requirements.
    https://lineageos.org/Sunsetting-LineageOS-18.1/
    If your device ends up unmaintained you're SOL. And most people use their Lineage to extend the life of their device way beyond what is normally offered. Which is one of the reasons I'm sure Google themselves finally decided to push much longer support up to six years.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      LOS 18 is Android 11
      These phones have been unmaintained for three years already if they haven't been ported to newer versions

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The moto g5 has lineage os 21 (android 14) builds available
      https://xdaforums.com/t/rom-14-0-lineageos-21-0-beta-for-cedric-unofficial-02-may.4664817/

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If Xperia 1 line of devices was supported, I'd buy them in a heartbeat. But apparently, everyone is lacking in essential hardware security and flexibility.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It also doesn't remove Google from your phone

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It works like that because Google Pixels have the best support for custom roms and they support verified boot, which means that you can relock your bootloader after installing custom rom without bricking your phone to prevent someone from doing evil-maid like attack on your device. You most likely seethe because you cant afford a pixel or you are a freetard who has no idea about technology or information security.

      Google services are sandboxed and optional.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Unless you're talking about hardware, yes it does

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Pixels are the only phones that allow you to relock the bootloader and be as secure as default

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      no? i used a custom rom on a xiaomi phone but i reversed back to default locked afterwards because bank app refused to work

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Literally buy a pre-owned phone from goodwill. This was you support secondary marked and don't give Google money.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Google is the only one who provides all sources you need to build AOSP, so it's simple for GrapheneOS devs to support Google devices and they can focus on actually developing the ROM instead. Sony maybe does that too, but nobody buys their trash anyway.
    Meanwhile LineageOS devs focus on backwards compatibility back to 4.9 kernel, creating device trees and mashing proprietary blobs together from various devices, because chink OEMs release only kernel sources as obligated by GPL.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >you have to buy a google phone
    No you don't. Degoogled lineage os is all you need

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You can just use LineageOS without any Google services (or use MicroG) but GrapheneOS has sandboxing for Google services which is really handy and makes it a lot more comfy to use while still minimizing the amount of data sent to Google. Google Pixels are also pretty much the only phones that allow you to use your own key to relock the bootloader, I think Motorola used to do that but I'm not so sure about their newer phones and Samsung straight up permanently unlocks the bootloader by blowing a fuse on the motherboard so you can never ever relock the bootloader even with 100% official software. Being able to have a locked bootloader obviously makes the device a lot safer. So while you could have a degoogled non Pixel device they are the only ones who allow you to do so in a way that doesn't compromise your security.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I started using Shelter. Do any of you have any experiences with this app? I use it on Graphene OS, too.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I guess it's better than Insular for it's auto-freezing feature. However I just keep proprietary shit in separated user profile.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I use it on GrapheneOS. I have play services in the work profile, and use RethinkDNS firewall in the work profile to limit connections to mtalk.google.com (for push notifications)

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Does Shelter really offer any substantial advantages in using it together with work profiles?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Will someone answer this question? Id like to know, too. What additional protections does it offer offer a separate user profile on Graphene OS, of any at all?

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >what is a reference system
    imagine being as moronic as OP

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I've been running my unsupported Pixel 3 for over a year now. I should probably just start over on Lineage until I upgrade, hell there was a build published for my phone TODAY.

    https://download.lineageos.org/devices/blueline/builds

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