Zed - Code at the speed of thought

Zed will set you free from V$Code's tyranny.
https://zed.dev/

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    didn't expect them to go open source. are there any closed components? i remember them saying that they still want to make money from proprietary parts of zed... or maybe i'm thinking of mojo

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The server is AGPL

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >r*st
    dropped
    OP is picrel and trans btw

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      still better than yet-another-editor-in-browser

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        YATL

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >everything I dislike is made by indians, transgenders and israelites
      the absolute state of IQfy

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the absolute state of technology*

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Whats wrong with Rust? It's better than C/++.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The community is filled with many mentally ill folk and most people here are terminally online and come into constant contact with them.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So just like IQfy?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      have a nice day

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >yet another text editor
    What the frick is wrong with using Vim/VS Code/Kate/Gedit ?
    Why do we need a bajillion different text editors

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      having something matching vim performance and vscode ecosystem is a goal worth having

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Vim
      Terrible controls.
      >VS Code
      An incredible amount of bloat.
      >Kate
      Great for the developers of Kate, for anybody else? Not so much.
      >Gedit
      Dated, terrible UI.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >>Vim
        >Terrible controls.
        Lmao what? thats the only reason I use vim, learn to keep both of your hands on the keyboard Black person.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How old are you?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How is that revelant? I'm asking you to explain further why vim controls are terrible.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            kek, well there you have it.
            The only reason why you think vim is great is because:
            1. it was a shiny new standard back in your day
            2. you are a boomer, meaning that your shrinking brain has difficulty getting used to newer (and better) tools

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Fricking bastard. Vim is great. Neovim even better with all the plugins. Try lunarvim and say it is not awesome, there's nothing faster than it.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's okay, anon. It'll be alright.
            With a bit of luck you'll manage to live long enough to experience the upcoming cellular rejuvenation advancements.
            Remember to eat healthy, exercise daily and visit your local doctor at least once a month.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Right, I'm 21 dude I started using "other tools". They're annoying and cumbersome to use, I tried vim and I loved it. I can move easily without having to be annoyed by selecting shit on the screen and if I want to compile I just move to a terminal and do that there because the commend is just an arrow key away, same as with a fully fledge editor only i don't have to deal with bullshit breaking randomly.
            Truth be told though, I enjoy making and fixing my own stuff so setting up Vim wasn't a problem for me, and in two years using the same setup hasn't broken once, well the clipboard did break when I took my setup to WSL but it was a one line fix.

            You should be the one trying new things dear boomer-minded friendo, try keeping your hands away from the mice.

            Fricking bastard. Vim is great. Neovim even better with all the plugins. Try lunarvim and say it is not awesome, there's nothing faster than it.

            nta

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            vi motions are great you just got filtered
            t. elder zoomer

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you're a Black person

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >>Vim
        >Terrible controls.
        Skill issue

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        how about sublime text? its pretty good and not bloated

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Sublime Text may be downloaded and evaluated for free, however a license must be purchased for continued use.
          Please don't be a thief.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            there is basically no difference between the paid and free version, you can use it as long as you like

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The software isn't yours. Please pay for it.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            what the frick are you talking about you shizoid, its free, i got it from the oficial website

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Aren't you tired of the popup appearing every time you open your non-owned software?
            Please pay for it.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it doesnt have any pop ups

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Please pay for the software you are stealing.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            what in the name of frick are you talking about you schizophrenic frick

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://www.sublimehq.com/store/text

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            did you cut out the last part on purporse? its basically "buy it if you want"

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What part of "a license must be purchased for continued use" do you not understand?
            Please do not be a thief and but the software that you do not own.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            im quitting this website, i cant take this any longer

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            See you tomorrow!

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        how is vscode bloated moronkun?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Stop chewing on your socks, anon.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Dated, terrible UI.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't know what you hoped to achieve with this post, but you have at the very least made it known to everyone in this thread that you are an old, decrepit boomer.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            imagine using boomer as an insult in 2024
            kys immediately redditor

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > macos only
      not going to free anything. Still impressive how much farther along they are vs the lapce.

      > vim
      great but I want a gui
      > vs code
      nice addon selection but it takes years to open
      > kate
      good easy to modify but building this is a huge pain in the ass
      > gedit
      too barebones
      Personally I liked lite-xl a lot

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nothing. Use your tools to get shit done.
      Idiots like to spend all day sharpening pencils instead of writing. Don't mind them.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    not on linux

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > Note
    > Zed is currently only available on macOS minimally requires Catalina (10.15).
    Looks like I will not be using your dildo-inserting text editor today.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's open source isn't it? we could just compile it

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >we could just compile it
        Good luck with that lmao

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You know, I've been seeing this lately, everything is rendering on the GPU and gets GPU-acceleration, but is this a good thing actually? I mean if everything starts rendering on the GPU that would end up clogging it wouldn't it? GPU-critical programs would end up killing the rest of your graphical enviroment when running, I think people should rethink if an IDE needs to be GPU sped up...

          I mean I'm assuming I haven't seen shit yet tbh

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > but is this a good thing actually?
            yes. you're gonna see:
            1. increased performance because gpus are good at rendering
            2. increased performance because you're offloading the thing the gpu is good at to the gpu

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I mean sure, but what happens if my software needs to use the whole GPU say rendering an scene in blender, and my whole OS is rendering on there, What happens then? i can't use my PC anymore?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            NTA, but rendering is always done on either separate hardware or done when nothing else is running.
            Doing it any other way would be incredibly foolish, because you're either going to prolong the rendering process or risk a crash.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            then everything else will be slow as well. if i was rendering a scene in blender i wouldn't expect my computer to be at it's most responsive anyway.

            I mean you need to keep in mind that at first things just wont work, vim/nvim is not an IDE, is an text editor that can be an IDE and that's the key thing, you need to remember that you'll have to build your own and will have to troubleshoot at first and make it work, but is like when you're building a set of legos, kinda annoying but pretty neat at the end. Give it a try, expect to have to open the config files often the first few weeks, but if you like the environment you end up with, you won't need another editor ever. Also I'd suggest dropping the compiling in-program, I know some people do it and you can but I found it very finicky and somewhat unresponsive than just popping another terminal and doing it manually on the cli, if anything you can just use makefiles for any project with the commands pre-written

            what do you do about file management? i need a fully functioning file browser sidebar. nvim-tree?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I use fzf.vim actually, open a file at the root then alt+f and I can acces any file, alt+a and I can access any line on any file from the root. I don't even need to open a file actually i just nvim the root and good to go

            .
            .
            .

            Plug 'junegunn/fzf', { 'do': { -> fzf#install() } }
            Plug 'junegunn/fzf.vim'

            .
            .
            .

            call plug#end()
            " fzf.vim
            map <silent> <A-f> :Files <CR>
            map <silent> <A-a> :Ag <CR>
            .
            .
            .

            https://github.com/junegunn/fzf.vim

            I did use nvim-tree for a while and I found it alright but I think this way is better

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i'll play around with this, i have a minimal nvim config kicking around that "works". file management in the neovim gui clients always blows.
            >or show your local LLM something?
            the thing that github studies showed created a "downward pressure" on code quality? hmm.

            >https://github.com/junegunn/fzf.vim
            oh yeah i'm fully aware that it's a fricking nightmare right now but they're blazing other trails. instead of writing a gui toolkit from scratch they could've done that and created the one blessed way to make gui apps in rust.

            The gui toolkit environment is a nightmare though. It seems like everyone has a different standard of what a toolkit should do and how and it just fricks up everything, but of course if you make a new one then you just have the there are now 13 competing standards thing. At least windows has that going for them with somewhat forcing the win32api

            >https://github.com/junegunn/fzf.vim
            not sure how i ended up pasting that in there, sorry.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Windows Terminal is GPU-accelerated but it's one of the slowest consoles.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >anything developed by microsoft
            >fast
            pick one

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        there's no backend for opengl / directx / vulkan for linux or windows. it's metal-only presently.

        Right, I'm 21 dude I started using "other tools". They're annoying and cumbersome to use, I tried vim and I loved it. I can move easily without having to be annoyed by selecting shit on the screen and if I want to compile I just move to a terminal and do that there because the commend is just an arrow key away, same as with a fully fledge editor only i don't have to deal with bullshit breaking randomly.
        Truth be told though, I enjoy making and fixing my own stuff so setting up Vim wasn't a problem for me, and in two years using the same setup hasn't broken once, well the clipboard did break when I took my setup to WSL but it was a one line fix.

        You should be the one trying new things dear boomer-minded friendo, try keeping your hands away from the mice.

        [...]
        nta

        i'm 29 but tried vim when i was around your age. it didn't stick but i wish it did. kinda want to give it another whirl after a few years on vscode and lapce not living up to my expectations.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I mean you need to keep in mind that at first things just wont work, vim/nvim is not an IDE, is an text editor that can be an IDE and that's the key thing, you need to remember that you'll have to build your own and will have to troubleshoot at first and make it work, but is like when you're building a set of legos, kinda annoying but pretty neat at the end. Give it a try, expect to have to open the config files often the first few weeks, but if you like the environment you end up with, you won't need another editor ever. Also I'd suggest dropping the compiling in-program, I know some people do it and you can but I found it very finicky and somewhat unresponsive than just popping another terminal and doing it manually on the cli, if anything you can just use makefiles for any project with the commands pre-written

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Meanwhile, using any other IDE will save you weeks worth of time.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Never said it was faster, but is less reliable and comfortable. And that's a fact mate things never fricking work on preconfigured environments because the reality of it is that not one project is the same as another.
            Besides is a one time investment kinda thing, once is done you pop the files in any system and you're good to go, as it would with any other IDE.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You'd have a point, if any of the stuff you're describing had any use other than to make it conform to your own personal autism.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If liking a different color from you is autism then so be it, but try going mouse-less on programming for a change, using and editor meant to be used without a mouse of course, maybe you'll find it good too.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >If liking a different color from you is autism then so be it
            Anon, it's not about the different color, it's about going through an incredible amount of effort to achieve it.
            >but try going mouse-less on programming for a change
            Why in the FRICK would anyone do this? Do you not have macros that can be activated and/or toggled with a single click?
            What about selecting parts of your screen to capture it or show your local LLM something?
            Not using your mouse is a productivity nightmare.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't need an LLM and you can select with the keyboard just fine and as fast.

            >Anon, it's not about the different color, it's about going through an incredible amount of effort to achieve it.
            And I'm going the extra mile because I don't like the standard, and just so happens when something is not standard you have to make it yourself, by that you're also calling carpenters autists mate, but yeah I get not everyone likes to make their own thing

            >Why in the FRICK would anyone do this?
            See thats you're issue you are negatively biased towards it, I'm telling you it's actually pretty neat and yet you blindly believe I'm lying. Try it, on an environment meant to be driven by that don't just pop vim controls on visual code and say you tried (its hell), and then I'll believe you think mouse-less is dumb.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >by that you're also calling carpenters autists mate
            I don't think you get it. You are doing things in an incredibly hard way just to set something because "that's just how I like it".
            That is autism, anon. You can try to deflect all you want, but it doesn't change the facts.
            >thats you're issue you are negatively biased towards it
            >I'm telling you it's actually pretty neat and yet you blindly believe I'm lying.
            That's another thing with you autists; there exists only your view on the world. Anyone else is viewing things the exact same way.
            I'm not accusing you of lying, I am merely stating that your way of doing things costs an unnecessary amount of effort.
            When someone is eating shit and offers you a bite, would you accept? Of course not, you'd know that eating shit is not something you'd want to do without having ever eaten shit.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You are doing things in an incredibly hard way
            That's the thing, it's not hard, that's what you keep believing without actually trying, it takes time because you won't know everything by heart and hardly will set up perfectly first try, but its by no means hard unless you count reading as hard, and I dont even mean reading docs just reading google results. Once again try it, and actually try to make it work, then I'll believe you its hard, but when I did it wasn't at all.

            You seem to disregard my opinion by shielding yourself in your own made up judgement and trying to deem me different from you with a tag, instead of, you know, believing the dude that tried it and used it telling you its not hard.

            >That's another thing with you autists; there exists only your view on the world.
            Ironic.

            >you'd know that eating shit is not something you'd want to do without having ever eaten shit.
            Bias, its not the same at all, but whatever you won't change your mind and will keep calling me the autist. See I never said your way of doing things was wrong, I was asking why you said the controls sucked, you never elaborated on that, then said you should try it if you want to say they sucked, and went on to calling me an autist. Mate, the one refusing other world views here is you, if you don't want to that's fine by me but don't judge something you don't know, it's not like using vim will give you an illness unlike your example of eating shit.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            final vim question: i think vimtutor is fricking terrible. what's the way you'd recommend getting the basics down well enough to at least not be lost?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I dunno, i never used vimtutor i just learn the absolute basics and went on with it, if i want to do something I dont know i search it up. Although theprimeagen had a cool series about teaching you vim but i think he deleted it?

            this one from him should be good too tho

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i'll play around with this, i have a minimal nvim config kicking around that "works". file management in the neovim gui clients always blows.
            >or show your local LLM something?
            the thing that github studies showed created a "downward pressure" on code quality? hmm.
            [...]
            [...]
            >https://github.com/junegunn/fzf.vim
            not sure how i ended up pasting that in there, sorry.

            >or show your local LLM something?
            Btw on that topic you can feed your LLM directly on Vim, so you don't even need to copy and paste which would make it better on that point actually.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >you can feed your LLM directly on Vim
            How many weeks worth of configuring will that cost me?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No clue, I don't use LLMs I just know you can, probably not more than a day though

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >you can easily get rich!
            >it'd take you, what, a year? tops?
            Uh-huh.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Try actually reading my post next time

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Try not talking out of your ass next time.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You are the one talking out if his ass lmao. I explicitly said I didn't know, learn2read

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I don't know
            You can say that again.
            Are you truly that butthurt that you can't stop replying to me regardless?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I mean you need to keep in mind that at first things just wont work
            You just answered your own question then. Some people like the perspective of having intuitive tools that just work so that they can focus their attention on other things rather than tinkering with their text editor.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah and if you want an IDE then vim/nvim is not for you see
            >vim/nvim is not an IDE
            Never said it was for everyone, but saying it's terrible it's just plain wrong.

            It will just werk(tm) if you want a text editor as in something like notepad, it just so happen you can turn nvim/vim into an IDE, unlike notepad.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Yeah and if you want an IDE then vim/nvim is not for you see
            if you just want an IDE that works* but as I said once its setup it does become an IDE that just works anyways

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I read your post as "Zed will set you free from the VSCode troony". I really need to spend less time on this godforsaken board.
    Anyway, how does it do rendering? Is it webshit or some native toolkit?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      custom native gui toolkit. i kinda wish they'd picked a native for each platform. i'm sick of my desktop looking like a fricking circus with every application implementing its own window decorations.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The gui toolkit environment is a nightmare though. It seems like everyone has a different standard of what a toolkit should do and how and it just fricks up everything, but of course if you make a new one then you just have the there are now 13 competing standards thing. At least windows has that going for them with somewhat forcing the win32api

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >https://github.com/junegunn/fzf.vim
          oh yeah i'm fully aware that it's a fricking nightmare right now but they're blazing other trails. instead of writing a gui toolkit from scratch they could've done that and created the one blessed way to make gui apps in rust.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Tbh I think the only way that'll get fixed is if the distro maintainers get together and decide on a standard window decoration and supporting that by default, that'll get everyone to use that, of course that's not gonna happen because everyone has a different philosophy even on the same distro.

            The only realistic way I see this working is having a new gui toolkit being way better than the others making it so everyone refuses to use software not made by that, but that also won't happen

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >custom native gui toolkit
        Oh, that sounds good. Now I'll check it out.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's also for MacOS only.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Okay I take that back then.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I had the exact same sentiment.
            We REALLY need a robust new cross-platform GUI framework that doesn't result in an executable almost a gigabyte in size or is still version 0.0.2.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well, we have Qt. It works very well if you're developing open source software in C++ or Python. But I think it's handicapped by the fact that it's so object oriented, making it difficult to port well to other languages.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Qt suffers some extreme bloat, in my opinion.
            It's gotten so bad, the only feasible way to create scalable software with it is through their GUI builder.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Qt suffers some extreme bloat
            The project is huge, but I don't really see it as a disadvantage when the performance is still good (unlike web tech) and you can choose which modules to compile into your program. If anything, I like that it's a one stop shop for making cross platform GUI programs and even has things like Bluetooth, getting microphone audio, or charts.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sublime Text is better than this rust shit that's going to get abandoned except for a couple of pointless PRs from furgays and autists (the moronic kind)

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Sublime Text
      >better than anything
      I'd honestly rather use vim.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wasteland plugin ecosystem.

      >you can feed your LLM directly on Vim
      How many weeks worth of configuring will that cost me?

      looks like you can just use the copilot.vim plugin and it'll display the results inline just like vscode.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    helix and vscode just work

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      should move to helix from vim? i kinda wish helix had nvim keybinds

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        helix is very comfy and customizing it is a fun experience. but if you are using vim as the main ide, i don't recommend you to switch because there is no plugin support yet. i don't mind it since i don't do much coding in the terminal.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It has telemetry, automatically garbage

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah dude, Zed Leppelin. Rock and roll all the way. Hairway to Seven.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It literally crashes when you type. LMAO I thought this was impossible with rust

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Am I a moron or is there now source control panel in this?

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