Ephesians 6:5-8
"Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free."
What did Paul mean by this?
It should be rather obvious that the teachings of the Bible on the subject of hierarchy and legitimate authority are more in line with the pre-Enlightenment mainstream than what came after, but an incredible amount of effort has been invested in covering up this rather obvious fact by both the right and left alike.
the word here is "servants"
although, these wouldn't be "free people" either way.
"slave" has been made a moronword which has lost all usefulness and should be abandoned.
you say "slave" and it comes with the connotation of no agency, no rights, and no future; which was true of a certain* subcategory of servants in history, but not all, and is therefore a moronword.
the fact that these are not even chattel servants being addressed is implicit in that it is ADDRESSED to them; as in, they're going to church alongside free people.
Exodus 21:20-21
“Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.
Leviticus 25:44-46
“ ‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.
Good thing Christ came with the New Covenant and all.
>inb4 out of context NT verse
come at me heathens
Matthew 10:24
No disciple is above his teacher, no slave above his master.
Correct. That is why none of us is above Christ.
Titus 2:9-10
Slaves are to be under the control of their masters in all respects, giving them satisfaction, not talking back to them or stealing from them, but exhibiting complete good faith, so as to adorn the doctrine of God our savior in every way.
Correct. An orderly society needs all its components to do their parts.
>NOOOO you can't provide a destitute person, food, shelter and clothing in exchange for a certain percentage of their labor!!!!!
I know right? Being a slave was (is) better than a starving freeman.
personally, I* disagree, but thats the great thing about a society based on traditional principles; it's up to you to do what you want with your life.
if people want to participate in that exchange it's on them
thankfully, my ancestors conquered the land I live in and made it my country, and I am a free man... well... perhaps whether or not we're "free" in western countries is a debate for another time...
I respect that. However, not everyone had the means to fight back. In that case, preserving life becomes the overriding priority.
>Correct. An orderly society needs all its components to do their parts.
It worked out for their descendants. They got to stay in America instead of Africa. That being said, abusing, whipping, raping, starving slaves is very unChristian. Humans do a lot of evil, but God always brings a greater good no matter how great the evil is.
>umm actually sweaty, being a servant is totally just as bad as rape and murder
>it just is, okay?
You're arguing with someone who agrees 100% with the New Testament. What is your point exactly? Are you suffering from reading incomprehension?
I'm mocking someone else, damn. I'm agreeing with you.
based. Carry on my brother and please accept my apologies.
It's the people who claim they are "Jews" that brought slaves to America, since they were the ship owners who had the idea to do such a thing, facilitated and profited from it.
true and based
your point is?
my point still stands that "slave" is a moronword though. already you see the differences between classes of "slaves" in the verses you quoted.
Pragmatic understanding that resistance would only lead to literal Buck breaking
>Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart.
Clearly not just pragmatic.
What do you think the plain meaning of the verses are?
The goyim should know their divinely ordained place amongst the chosen.