Ethnic stereotypes among students at the University of Paris in 1200 AD, according to Jacques de Vitry

Ethnic stereotypes among students at the University of Paris in 1200 AD, according to Jacques de Vitry

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >had tails
    what?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah don't listen to those wankers. We english totally don't have tails.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Leave doors open

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Either two cases I can see

      1. A “tail” is an accessory of men’s clothing. Ie to wear a coat with tails is wearing a suit jacket so they were saying that English wore clothes with tails on them

      2. “Tail” is slang in modern German for penis (Schwanz). They were saying English had big wieners or were sexed up

      I could see either of those as making sense.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There's also the visual metaphor of cunning/mischevious people having tails (like a fox or devil), long/sharp ears are another such feature.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >soft
        >yielding as butter
        Have the Flemish always been femboys?

        you're overthinking it. they were saying the english had literal tails. it wasn't a metaphor.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Kind of like how in the west we joking say asian girls have sideways veganas, I would assume.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        you're overthinking it. they were saying the english had literal tails. it wasn't a metaphor.

        It could also be tails (the hairstyle), popular among celtics and germanics.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The idea that the English had literal tails is surprisingly common in medieval writing.
        >For God smote them in their hinder parts, giving them everlasting shame so that in the private parts both of themselves and their descendants all a like were born with a tail.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Either two cases I can see

      1. A “tail” is an accessory of men’s clothing. Ie to wear a coat with tails is wearing a suit jacket so they were saying that English wore clothes with tails on them

      2. “Tail” is slang in modern German for penis (Schwanz). They were saying English had big wieners or were sexed up

      I could see either of those as making sense.

      The word used by Vitry was "caudatos"
      >Anglicos potatores et caudatos affirmantes

      Apparently it was a slang at the time often used for angloids
      https://www.jstor.org/stable/24680586

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Brabantians
    absolute madlads.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Brabantians
      Who?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dutch from the more inland parts, not Frisia or Holland. They were known for being mercenaries and all the people from that region, Hollanders and Frisians included tended to be a contentious people.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I mean, I don't like it . . . . but it's not exactly 'wrong' (apart from the tails of course)

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >proud
    >effete
    >adorned like women
    Seems like some things never change.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      English as drunkards is still valid 800 years later too

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Drunkards
    Literally me

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Makes sense when you think universities were mainly focused on theology at the time.
    So this is basically just people pointing out how sinful Europe had become.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tyrannical
    >cruel

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wasn't the 13th century the only time when Sicily was actually important? I remember reading that Palermo was the largest city in europe.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        When the de Hautville's ruled it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Normans-Frederick II was its golden era.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    IQfy needs twitterslop to discover the nations that the university constituted

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >killed Arthur
    Daily trvke

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Italy checks out genetically.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Did potevins speak another language at that time?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Most people in France at the time basically spoke their regional languages. Lindbeige mentioned most people in France didn't speak French, Parisian, until like the late 1800s.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      French didnt considered each other a common people until the 16th century at least

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Most people in France at the time basically spoke their regional languages. Lindbeige mentioned most people in France didn't speak French, Parisian, until like the late 1800s.

      At the time of unification, only 3% of the population of Italy spoke the precursor of "Italian" which was the floretine dialect, chosen for its literary history, which made it more familiar to many Italians than other dialects.

      For France, it was Paris essentially forcing everyone to speak Parisian because they ran the government and defeated the Federalist revolt. The Cathars lasted so long because of the backing of Occitan nobility, which was its own distinct language closer to Spanish than French.

      The only difference between dialect and language is a border and a military.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >For France, it was Paris essentially forcing everyone to speak Parisian because they ran the government and defeated the Federalist revolt. The Cathars lasted so long because of the backing of Occitan nobility, which was its own distinct language closer to Spanish than French.
        Absolute state of this board

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Disregard pop-his commonplaces, Poitou is one of the rare regions to have switched from Languedoc Languedoil and it happened precisely around that period

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Most people in France at the time basically spoke their regional languages. Lindbeige mentioned most people in France didn't speak French, Parisian, until like the late 1800s.

      French didnt considered each other a common people until the 16th century at least

      Poitevin (juste like Norman) was an oil language, aka a dialect of Old French.
      It wasnt a whole other language like Breton, Flemish or Occitan.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        French homies really be out there speaking "croissant"

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Killed Arthur
    Wot. Mordred killed Arthur.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Judas bretons

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its a mistranslation because whoever made this is a brainlet. "[they] are often reproached for the Death of Arthur" is the line from the primary source. Meaning the book, Le Morte D'Arthur.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >1200
        >le morte d'arthur

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its a mistranslation because whoever made this is a brainlet. "[they] are often reproached for the Death of Arthur" is the line from the primary source. Meaning the book, Le Morte D'Arthur.

      Bretons came from Britain (Cornwall generally) and there are many variants of the Arthurian myth anyway, so I wouldn't be surprised if there was such a tradition.

      That said it's most likely about the mysterious death/suspected murder of Arthur of Britanny in 1203, which remained a popular subject of conversation for centuries and would have been an especially hot topic at the time:
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_I,_Duke_of_Brittany#Legacy

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its a mistranslation because whoever made this is a brainlet. "[they] are often reproached for the Death of Arthur" is the line from the primary source. Meaning the book, Le Morte D'Arthur.

      [...]
      Bretons came from Britain (Cornwall generally) and there are many variants of the Arthurian myth anyway, so I wouldn't be surprised if there was such a tradition.

      That said it's most likely about the mysterious death/suspected murder of Arthur of Britanny in 1203, which remained a popular subject of conversation for centuries and would have been an especially hot topic at the time:
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_I,_Duke_of_Brittany#Legacy

      The French Arthurian Cycle was very different from the British one.
      Avalon, for example, was thought to be an island of of Brittany. Mordred also was supposed to become a monarch of Brittainy.
      Basically the aspects of King Arthur Anglos considered Welsh, or associated with Wales, the French considered Breton.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mati%C3%A8re_de_Bretagne

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >anglos
    >had tails
    They had still some remnants of their demonic forms.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >soft
    >yielding as butter
    Have the Flemish always been femboys?

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sicily and England consistent as frick

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >students at the University of Paris
    Am I the only one who thinks universities are intrinsically and eternally, universally extremely effeminate? why the frick would you ~~*Pay money*~~ to learn stuff from some pencil-pushing ~~*expert*~~ instead of doing manual labor on and off and hunting fishing in the woods, or playing folk instruments and merry-making in your small village?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You were so protected back then you could do whatever you wanted though

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      because universities were created by Dominicans, manual labor was a Franciscan thing

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >why the frick would you ~~*Pay money*~~ to learn stuff from some pencil-pushing ~~*expert*~~
      Because you seek power

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's effeminate. It takes much more guts to humble yourself and elevate others to your level + bring others down to your level.
        also seeking power is feminine because if you SEEK power, you dont HAVE it. admitting for a single second you aren't super-mega powerful is femboy-tier. You can be magnanimous and share your demigod status with everyone else, tho.
        Im right.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >delusionally believing yourself to be important while simultaneously trying to drag everyone around you into the muck with you is actually not feminine at all. the opposite, in fact
          ogey
          >people will want to partake in my nonexistent, imaginary power; I can act as the ring-giver when I have no rings to give
          ogey
          I want to eat your corpse and absorb your life energy

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            believing yourself to be important
            No. I do semen retention
            >nonexistent
            I am Continent. No fornicator can surpass me.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >why learn something when you can be a dirt eating peasant that dies of famine

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anglicus a tergo Caudam gerit. Est canis ergo.

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