new doctors make 16 euro an hour, and thats usually for the first few years, you can make more than that after of course, but starting out its about the same as a cashier or barista
It's total bullshit and the UK is not in Europe, it's just propaganda to have pay raises (assuming these people have a salary).
In France, doctors make 30€ per visit minimum, and can have up to 7 visit/hour. So let's say 200€ per hour.
Minimum 300K a year for the non specialized ones.
>Minimum 300K a year for the non specialized ones.
The median attending salary in the US is <$250k. French doctors make like 90k euro, if that. >bluh blah blippity bloop
I'm sure you've done more research into this than I have, and your bullshit opinion is 100% accurate!
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Unlike you, i don't talk out of my ass, i actually know the subject very well.
First, they don't make salaries, since they don't have an employer but are self-employed, unless they work for a clinic, in which case they usually also have an individual activity on the side.
I'll talk about France, they work for themselves 90+% of the time, with a legal minimum rate of 30€/visit (new rate, it was 25€ before), then they overcharge for everything they do (like a finger in the ass will be 30€ more) + then they get financial incentives from the state to push certain policies (ie COVID vaccines, being relocated to areas that lack mds, being referent md for old people and so on) + they get gifts from the pharmaceutical industry (jewelry, travel, and so on).
I'm being conservative when i say 300K a year. Also, you have to take into account that they don't pay for their studies here. They start with 0 student debts.
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>+ they get gifts from the pharmaceutical industry (jewelry, travel, and so on). >I'm being conservative when i say 300K a year. >Unlike you, i don't talk out of my ass, i actually know the subject very well
Lmao.
1 month ago
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>>+ they get gifts from the pharmaceutical industry (jewelry, travel, and so on).
Don't try me, moron, i know what i'm talking about.
You have to speak french to understand:
https://www.20minutes.fr/justice/4069851-20240111-cadeaux-laboratoire-urgo-ministre-sante-firmin-bodo-entendue-enqueteurs
1 month ago
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>he thinks a pharmacist is a doctor
:^)
1 month ago
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I'm a GP consultant and I get £50k from the NHS for what is basically full time work. My husband (thoracic surgeon) earns about £120k including private patients but he has a 63% tax rate and about 40% tax overall
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and this is why my appendicitis was misdiagnosed twice by the nhs before being removed the third time where they found out it had already burst during my second visit
this country has gone to dogshit, note I don't blame the doctor, the best doctors simply are too smart to accept the real responsibility of being a good doctor for such a shit pay and in such a shit system where doing a good job goes unrewarded
next time I have something I go to a private hospital, thank god crypto made me rich enough to afford it because NHS has made it even more expensive to go private
OTOH we have free education and healthcare, so our doctors aren't wage slaves trying to buy their freedom back.
You're American, so tell me, how much of your paycheck would you give up to for your own personal freedom?
>Absurd debts that you can never get out of are slavery
Keep your lower taxes, who gives a shit. That's just an other piece of your paycheck that goes away, it's proportional. If you don't like it, you can always make more money, pay more taxes, and keep more (in absolute terms, not relative) money.
It's not a weight around your neck that you can never escape, with fixed payments that you have to beg politicians to keep at bay while you work your way to being able to start paying them.
>Keep your lower taxes, who gives a shit. That's just an other piece of your paycheck that goes away, it's proportional. If you don't like it, you can always make more money, pay more taxes, and keep more (in absolute terms, not relative) money. >It's not a weight around your neck that you can never escape, with fixed payments that you have to beg politicians to keep at bay while you work your way to being able to start paying them.
Fricking hell, my condolences on your PMLD.
they don't, you're just making stuff up
ban all frogposters
Yes they do.
Do cashiers in the US make 15K a month?
https://www.euronews.com/next/2023/08/11/doctors-salaries-which-countries-pay-the-most-and-least-in-europe
new doctors make 16 euro an hour, and thats usually for the first few years, you can make more than that after of course, but starting out its about the same as a cashier or barista
>new doctors make 16 euro an hour,
LMAO California just pushed out a $20 an hour minimum wage, McDonalds worders are making more than EU doctors
takes more skill
>source British Medical Association (BMA)
It's total bullshit and the UK is not in Europe, it's just propaganda to have pay raises (assuming these people have a salary).
In France, doctors make 30€ per visit minimum, and can have up to 7 visit/hour. So let's say 200€ per hour.
Minimum 300K a year for the non specialized ones.
>Minimum 300K a year for the non specialized ones.
The median attending salary in the US is <$250k. French doctors make like 90k euro, if that.
>bluh blah blippity bloop
I'm sure you've done more research into this than I have, and your bullshit opinion is 100% accurate!
Unlike you, i don't talk out of my ass, i actually know the subject very well.
First, they don't make salaries, since they don't have an employer but are self-employed, unless they work for a clinic, in which case they usually also have an individual activity on the side.
I'll talk about France, they work for themselves 90+% of the time, with a legal minimum rate of 30€/visit (new rate, it was 25€ before), then they overcharge for everything they do (like a finger in the ass will be 30€ more) + then they get financial incentives from the state to push certain policies (ie COVID vaccines, being relocated to areas that lack mds, being referent md for old people and so on) + they get gifts from the pharmaceutical industry (jewelry, travel, and so on).
I'm being conservative when i say 300K a year. Also, you have to take into account that they don't pay for their studies here. They start with 0 student debts.
>+ they get gifts from the pharmaceutical industry (jewelry, travel, and so on).
>I'm being conservative when i say 300K a year.
>Unlike you, i don't talk out of my ass, i actually know the subject very well
Lmao.
>>+ they get gifts from the pharmaceutical industry (jewelry, travel, and so on).
Don't try me, moron, i know what i'm talking about.
You have to speak french to understand:
https://www.20minutes.fr/justice/4069851-20240111-cadeaux-laboratoire-urgo-ministre-sante-firmin-bodo-entendue-enqueteurs
>he thinks a pharmacist is a doctor
:^)
I'm a GP consultant and I get £50k from the NHS for what is basically full time work. My husband (thoracic surgeon) earns about £120k including private patients but he has a 63% tax rate and about 40% tax overall
and this is why my appendicitis was misdiagnosed twice by the nhs before being removed the third time where they found out it had already burst during my second visit
this country has gone to dogshit, note I don't blame the doctor, the best doctors simply are too smart to accept the real responsibility of being a good doctor for such a shit pay and in such a shit system where doing a good job goes unrewarded
next time I have something I go to a private hospital, thank god crypto made me rich enough to afford it because NHS has made it even more expensive to go private
frick the UK healthcare and anyone who defends it
agreed, frogBlack folk are so stale at this point its beyond parody of normie shit.
Why would i let a sink in
so you can wash your hands you dirty homosexual
Sars, increase redemption.
Don't they have 4 fewer years of medical school as well?
Yeah but North American cashiers are obligated to get tips, in Europe it is illegal to tip your doctor (Just another bit of communist tyranny).
>laws preventing preferential treatment by doctors are bad
burger brain
>He doesn't tip his doctor
Not my fault you're poor. Have you considered not being poor?
Romanian doctors, sure.
Doctors make big bucks here too youre list is bullshit
"New doctors" might refer to doctors still in practical training which goes for years
My dentist makes like €10k/month and drives a €120k Porsche. He doesn't even have a doctor title.
OTOH we have free education and healthcare, so our doctors aren't wage slaves trying to buy their freedom back.
You're American, so tell me, how much of your paycheck would you give up to for your own personal freedom?
lmao moronic euro slave logic
>taxes are freedom
>freedom is slavery
I hate you homosexuals so much
>Absurd debts that you can never get out of are slavery
Keep your lower taxes, who gives a shit. That's just an other piece of your paycheck that goes away, it's proportional. If you don't like it, you can always make more money, pay more taxes, and keep more (in absolute terms, not relative) money.
It's not a weight around your neck that you can never escape, with fixed payments that you have to beg politicians to keep at bay while you work your way to being able to start paying them.
>Keep your lower taxes, who gives a shit. That's just an other piece of your paycheck that goes away, it's proportional. If you don't like it, you can always make more money, pay more taxes, and keep more (in absolute terms, not relative) money.
>It's not a weight around your neck that you can never escape, with fixed payments that you have to beg politicians to keep at bay while you work your way to being able to start paying them.
Fricking hell, my condolences on your PMLD.
no one forces you to get into debt
I have 0 student loan debt and I went to school for 8 years
>wow would you believe this made up bullshit!!!!!!
no. i wouldnt.
yes
i'm a family doctor in the US and gross 275k a year. not bad for telling fat people to lose weight and sexual deviants to wear a condom