redpill me on these

im the the process of virtualizing VHS tapes so i may throw them out afterwards. however, i had to open up the VCR to free a stuct tape and saw just how based they are in the guts.
so, zoomer clueless here, and i got wondering if trashing VSH tapes is a offense comparable to trashing Thinkpads or CRTs or not?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They degrade over time so it's not really an offense to trash them. Any movies and such you could donate if someone will take them, but not many want VHS anymore.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah I lost videos of my dad. quite sad. vhs was a mistake.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > virtualizing VHS tapes
      > virtualizing
      the absolute state of this low iq board
      > trashing
      yeah, let's destroy perfectly fine tapes. what a moronic Black person.

      >They degrade over time so it's not really an offense to trash them
      the picture quality degrades over time only if it's constantly played thousands of times. the tapes are fine.

      yeah I lost videos of my dad. quite sad. vhs was a mistake.

      great story

      In that case...

      I have some shit tapes (useless, no value, degraded, etc. The Fox kids cannibalization of the Digimon movies) that i insert before the important tapes (that also happens to be family ones), just to test if the VCR is in a bitey mood before inserting the tape that matters.

      if your machine isn't fricking shit then you don't need to put in a test tape before hand.

      this has got to be the most tech illiterate site on the entire internet.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It had been in storage for several years without usage, with crumbs from the self cleaning sponge jumping around while it was transported.The first tape to go in was impossible to recover.

        It has never happened again after maintenance, but I still don't trust it if the tape is unique.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        awwww, is someone having a bad day? have you considered bashing your head against concrete instead? but be careful, with it, you wouldnt want to damage your EXTREMELY VALUABLE knowledge on vhs tapes
        fricking Black person

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >le meme about automatic degrading
      you know nothing about cassettes

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        everytime you play them the magnetization on these things wear down.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they're shit and we're well rid of them

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unless it is something that has not been ripped and uploaded to internet, not worth the time. Unless you have a high quality VCR with s-video and time based correction, what you capture is going to look like shit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      im only ripping family stuff. i have east-german porn too, from which i assume some might be a rarity, but i refuse to archive those.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        In that case...

        I have some shit tapes (useless, no value, degraded, etc. The Fox kids cannibalization of the Digimon movies) that i insert before the important tapes (that also happens to be family ones), just to test if the VCR is in a bitey mood before inserting the tape that matters.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There is probably someone who would want them, even if you sell them for like $1 each you'll make a few bucks, keep something out of the landfill, and provide someone else with something they want.

          why don't you just clean your VCR then? If it at least plays in the first place then it can't be in need of much more than a cleaning or maybe demagnetizing

          Frick yeah my thread

          >tape can be repaired time and time and time again (splicing) assuming there's no heat damage, etc.
          >Disc can only be grinded down a handful of times max (kek and cope)

          >random vhs tapes from the 80s still have 95-100% quality retention
          >fricking rewritable and the studio recorded tapes are almost always higher quality than blank re-recordable ones.
          >carries high quality stereo audio

          I make 10mbps bitrate 480p MPEG2 encodes of 1.33 or similar aspect ratio (anything that fits 4:3 well) films and I record studio quality tapes of modern movies.

          >yannick
          >I'm Thinking of Ending Things
          >The Whale
          >El Topo
          >Aguirre
          >4hr tapes of Tom and jerry cartoons

          In the case of Aguirre, since it has been on tape previous, I used the bluray as source, making my VHS quite nicer quality than the existing tapes of it.

          >inb4 "old tech bad", "muh nostalgia"
          Alright

          based

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I've never seen east German porn. You should archive that for sure. Stick it online. This is the data hoarder in me speaking not the coomer

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >look like shit
      Which is better than nothing. Rip everything you cannot find on internet. Especially if it's TV programming, which tends to be lost very often.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Especially if it's TV programming, which tends to be lost very often.
        Is TechTV hard to find video of? I have one tape with about 2 hours on it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >look like shit
      Which is better than nothing. Rip everything you cannot find on internet. Especially if it's TV programming, which tends to be lost very often.

      I scan my tapes in (I find lots of screeners and weird one off private releases)
      First and foremost issue is that VHS was meant for CRT. 480p resolution on CRT looks fricking phenomenal. But the scan put onto any flatpanel LED is going to look like shit. Sure you can shift settings here and there to assess this.

      >digitize vhs copy of Amelie (fullscreen release is taller than any bluray release, slightly more open matte)
      >encode it to 10mbps 480p MPEG2 23.976fps
      >put onto blank tape
      They look identical. Absolutely the same.

      Analog tape is not meant for digital viewing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The image quality is so badly destroyed by digitization, even more so after uploading to the internet, you might as well not bother. Its better for the content to go to the void, then exist in some corrupted half state.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >destroyed by digitization
        Kek and cope and blatantly not true, see

        [...]
        I scan my tapes in (I find lots of screeners and weird one off private releases)
        First and foremost issue is that VHS was meant for CRT. 480p resolution on CRT looks fricking phenomenal. But the scan put onto any flatpanel LED is going to look like shit. Sure you can shift settings here and there to assess this.

        >digitize vhs copy of Amelie (fullscreen release is taller than any bluray release, slightly more open matte)
        >encode it to 10mbps 480p MPEG2 23.976fps
        >put onto blank tape
        They look identical. Absolutely the same.

        Analog tape is not meant for digital viewing.

        >even further by uploading
        Lmao are you fricking moronic anon?
        Imagine being THIS ignorant.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        just recreate lost data with AI lmao. the absolute state of boomers

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >just hallucinate "lost" data with AI

          Everything about this screams ignorance. Where did the data go anon? Is he hiding from us?

          But upscaling (with no "image recovery", just add slight sharpness and dehaloing) up to 720p can be worthwhile. Again, nothing will make it watchable on modern screens. Analog video is MEANT for crt. It's a projected image and not pixel perfect, so any jaggedness and fricked shit from digitization simply isn't visible on crt. Whereas on modern screens, you'll ONLY get jaggedness, artifacts, etc.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Where did the data go anon? Is he hiding from us?
            >what is entropy
            >what is lossy data compression
            kys you autistic homosexual

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i fricking hate this guy. he talks like is a fricking guru. when is just another linus

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Stinkpads and crts are e-waste.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      maybe to somebody who's tech illiterate or without any creativity

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >just how based they are in the guts
    Zoomers should be banned from this site altogether

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Frick yeah my thread

    >tape can be repaired time and time and time again (splicing) assuming there's no heat damage, etc.
    >Disc can only be grinded down a handful of times max (kek and cope)

    >random vhs tapes from the 80s still have 95-100% quality retention
    >fricking rewritable and the studio recorded tapes are almost always higher quality than blank re-recordable ones.
    >carries high quality stereo audio

    I make 10mbps bitrate 480p MPEG2 encodes of 1.33 or similar aspect ratio (anything that fits 4:3 well) films and I record studio quality tapes of modern movies.

    >yannick
    >I'm Thinking of Ending Things
    >The Whale
    >El Topo
    >Aguirre
    >4hr tapes of Tom and jerry cartoons

    In the case of Aguirre, since it has been on tape previous, I used the bluray as source, making my VHS quite nicer quality than the existing tapes of it.

    >inb4 "old tech bad", "muh nostalgia"
    Alright

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    tell me more

    https://i.imgur.com/wzxExQv.jpg

    im the the process of virtualizing VHS tapes so i may throw them out afterwards. however, i had to open up the VCR to free a stuct tape and saw just how based they are in the guts.
    so, zoomer clueless here, and i got wondering if trashing VSH tapes is a offense comparable to trashing Thinkpads or CRTs or not?

    small update. check picrel. from 1 to 10, how would you rate quality?
    (thats from a news reporting btw)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/34880807/#q34880807

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not an expert on this stuff but I have digitized camcorder tapes before and this is definitely watchable. It does look over-sharpened and like the color is really saturated though. It might be worth seeing if there are any settings you could tweak for those. That said maybe that's just how the source looks.

      Honestly don't worry about what IQfy thinks. Just look it over and decide if you feel it's good enough for your needs.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i gorilla tape them together to make risers for my monitor and tv.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You said VCR instead of "VHS Player". Based.

    Anyway, there is no reason to store new video on VHS, it's an inferior format by all real metrics. Anything you can get in a higher format, it's probably better to switch to that.

    If you need the old tape look though, there really is no good substitute. Pic related is a meme someone created by putting some Blender stuff on an actual tape and recording it / screenshotting it. I'm not saying you couldn't get close enough with a bunch of photoshop / filters, but while tapes are still around it's nice to have the option when the look is needed.

    Basically keep the tapes if you want to make memes. Alternatively, sell them to someone who wants to make memes.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unless your encoding them with an AV-DV device like a mini DV camcorder your encode will look inferior to the original tape. As a zoomer though I doubt you notice.

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