Average life in the Warsaw Pact

Let's say I'm a Baker in East Germany or Soviet Union. I want to open a bakery and sell bread. How does one go about setting up that business and operating it? How does the Marxist system tie in with me having to possibly hire employees or take out a loan to buy the stuff needed to setup the bakery? What was the process and bureaucracy like?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    You don't. Why would you make the assumption that you could? There are no private businesses and no private production.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      There existed private businesses and private production in DDR / SSSR. This was not Misc Pot's Cambodia.
      It's just that these businesses had to bribe the local commissars to survive. The proles took ration-cards and got their ration - as was their right, as citizens. The ration was shit. The real food was sold on the black-market and the commissars wet their beaks not to stop that practice.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Becoming a manager of a state-run bakery is your best bet, and then operating a black market store on the side as points out.

        Perhaps you could make your black market business legitimate if it's post-Perestroika/Glasnost USSR in the late 80s? Probably still need bribe money.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Depending on the time period you can work as an artisan but not allowed to hire anyone/there are extensive regulations you have to follow

        "2nd economy" appeared in the 70s-80s and was overrated: the black market in for example Russia was smaller than today

        Becoming a manager of a state-run bakery is your best bet, and then operating a black market store on the side as points out.

        Perhaps you could make your black market business legitimate if it's post-Perestroika/Glasnost USSR in the late 80s? Probably still need bribe money.

        Good way to get arrested unless you are doing this under Brezhnev or Gorby, wouldn't fly in DDR

        How the frick does the bread get made then? It's not like the KGB would go around shooting village bakers, surely?

        The bread gets made in a bakery, anon
        There were a frickton more bakeries than today and they were state run, prepackaged shelf stable bread was much rarer, amd fresh bread was cheap and abundant
        Youd have to wait in a long line to buy it though since a lot of the time everyone went to buy all at once after work and often most of the residents of the neighbourhood worked in the same factory

        There's no individual initiative under socialism. The state owns everything. You have to wait until the planning board decides to build a bakery then you apply to be a baker on the government's payroll.

        I like how your idea of "individual initiative" is taking out a frickton of loans and starting muh small buisness that will most likely fail and leave you in debt for the rest of your life
        Individual initiative like doing well at yoir job or inventing something would get you a medal, cash prizes, promotions, vacation vouchers or even being a minor celebrity

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          White "people" communism lost.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            What is this even supposed to mean?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            It's pretty self explanatory.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You have no fricking idea what you're talking about, westie zoomer. Just shut the frick up. Nobody had "ration cards" apart from extraordinary periods of crisis, for example for a few months right after the 1956 uprising in Hungary. You'd get a salary and you'd buy shit in the store.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      How the frick does the bread get made then? It's not like the KGB would go around shooting village bakers, surely?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        In East Germany they probably wouldn't shoot them, but it would be illegal.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You underestimate the moronic shit commies will do

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The state-owned bakery

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That was true in the Soviet Union, but East Germany did allow some small private businesses.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This is a terrible reply and destroyed the entire thread.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    There's no individual initiative under socialism. The state owns everything. You have to wait until the planning board decides to build a bakery then you apply to be a baker on the government's payroll.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >How does one go about setting up that business and operating it?
    You realize that the Warsaw Pact was COMMUNIST right? They were completely opposed to private business.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

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  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    living standards in order from best to worst

    East Germany
    Czechoslovakia
    Hungary
    Poland
    Bulgaria
    USSR
    Romania

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      USSR should be broken up into the individual republics. Life in the Russian SFSR or Latvian SSR for example was probably much better than Bulgaria but and the same time the Uzbek SSR would be literal third world living standards.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Where do Yugoslavia and Albania rank

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