I'd like to learn about Chinese history from the start of Zhou to the end of Ming (I don't give a frick about Qing).
Wikipedia gives some interesting anecdotes, but I need something more, at the same time I don't feel like reading 1000 page book about dynasty of them.
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....Do people here seriously go to wikipedia and just read the articles and not the sources?
If I'm just looking to get a brief summary, then yes. Other than that, I don't even read Wikipedia.
Indeed, it is a great way to get summary. That being said even some summaries are pozzled, like the article for homophobia says homophobia refers to dislike of homosexuals OR THE TRANNIES, and then cites some women's studies book as a source. When all the dictionaries (like Oxford's Lexico) say nothing about trannies. IMO it is disgusting they try to bundle homophobia and transphobia, because there is a lot of more transphobia than homophobia.
This is literally only a thing on English wikipedia.
Anon, the people here google image search and look at the first few pictures of a topic, compare it to how they feel about the topic without knowing anything, and then just build a permanent mental image based on those 15 seconds that no amount of information or education can change.
>wanting to read some gay bloviating for 300+ pages to communicate essentially the same information as the wiki page
>best way to get into Chinese history
Kill Xi Jinping
I read "The Story of China" by Michael Wood some time back. I'm sure you could find a better introduction if you looked, but for my part, I found it an informative and engaging read. It's a broad overview of the whole history from prehistoric times onward, though, so it might not be specific enough for you. ~550 pages.
t. in the same boat, more or less
Ikr, I wish Xi would just be upfront about it and publish the complete history of China.
^ a book
History of Imperial China series:
https://www.hup.harvard.edu/collection.php?cpk=1338
6 books. The first one (Qin and Han) touches briefly on Zhou / Warring States as well. I've only got around to reading the first two but they seem good quality. They are available on libgen if I recall.
Also watch the Three Kingdoms series (2010) on youtube.
>Also watch the Three Kingdoms series (2010) on youtube.
I tried, I can't believe this is the most expensive Chinese tv-show, it looks so cheap, and even the Korean period of peace looks so much more expensive. Also it isn't very faithful to the book. Editing is also shit, I mean, they speed up fighting scenes that already looked janky.
Japan is the only kino maker worth a damn. Korea is shitty plastic soulless clones, honk gong is shitty flying martial arts, and China is completely devoid of anything creative, and I say that as a Chinkaboo.
Chinese names are an insurmountable barrier to Chinese history. No westerner has any chance of remembering 200 different names consisting of Wang, Zhang, Liang, Huang, Tang, Peng, Feng, Deng, Zeng, Yu, Du, Su, Hu, Xu, Wu followed by Wei, Lei, Mei, Qing, Ping, Ming, Ling, Ying, Xin, Min, Jin, Hong, Rong, Kong.
the best way is to play either Romance of the Three Kingdoms or Dynasty Warriors.
Learn the characters, their stats, play the different scenarios, see which of the strongest warriors served which warlords, where Zhuge Liang, Zhou Yu and Sima Yi first get recruited from.
This is just a primer. Then read the Three Kingdoms book. You'll be familiar with the names, the places, you'll learn lots of new stuff that you didn't know about just from playing the game.
The book will mention the Warring States, and will talk about how so and so likened himself to so and so from the Warring States period. This is how you'll learn about the pre-Han dynasties.
this is why my method works great. Playing the video games is a fun way to become familiar with the names and places.
Not him but I can't express how much I detest Chinese fiction.
>time for history kino
>just kidding, it's flying martial arts fireball mystical shit
Is that Wuxia crap even popular in China? I'm struggling to see the demographic.
i'm not a fan of Chinese fiction either, but Three Kingdoms is the one exception. But that could most likely be because i played the video games as a kid and so the books were really engaging for me. Also introduced me to taoism and confucianism too, the Warring States period, Zhou, Qin dynasties... all in all it was really fun to learn about ancient Chinese history in the way that i did. There was also a really fun game called "Qin", it was like the Chinese version of Myst. You basically explored Emperor Qin Shi Huangdi's burial vault, had to solve puzzles as you progressed. They had tons of stuff you could read about chinese culture and religion, which i thought was needed to solve the puzzles so i read it all, but apparently it wasn't necessary as i found out later once i solved the puzzles lol. But was still fun learning about it either way.
>Is that Wuxia crap even popular in China? I'm struggling to see the demographic.
its popular for why shonen is popular. people love power fantasies. what's holding chinese shonen back is lack of pictures for easy consumption, but it's really good for scholar cultures, which is why its popular among high class brits. the discworld author even wrote an affectionate novel about wuxia.
>the best way is to play either Romance of the Three Kingdoms
Actually, at this point, the Three Kingdoms is a least interesting part of Chinese history. Especially if it gets pop-filtered
I played the CN version of Dynasty Warriors and this guy called Pu Tine kept getting mentioned in all the dialogue
>I'd like to learn about Chinese history from the start of Zhou to the end of Ming (I don't give a frick about Qing).
Wikipedia gives some interesting anecdotes, but I need something more, at the same time I don't feel like reading 1000 page book about dynasty of them.
Do the Yellow Turban and Taiping have novels? Those are periods of Chinese history I'm really interested in.
chinese history is shang dynasty and shang states like song or e, that's it, there's not much to it, chinese were slaves for the rest of the time until ccp took power
someone post chinese history be like paste
China by Michael Wood
>that image
HNGGGGGG