Crime and Punishment. 90% of its quality is contained within the first 100 or so pages. The middle is full of paid-by-page filler and the ending is cheap christcuckery.
TBK is much better. It basically has C and P in it. Once you’ve read TBK there isnt much need to bother with C and P. It is recognized simply because people dont have the fortitude for TBK.
Yeah, and to be fair to Gibson he wrote a much better novel in Count Zero. I think partly because it was a serial in a magazine meant he had to keep adding new stuff but also he knew he couldn't write a 3rd act to save his life, so he wrote 3 narratives with 1st and 2nd acts, and then ended it there. It makes for a much faster paced novel.
Low-key everything i read feels like front-running, i often discard books halfway through. Only really good writers like Faulkner and Joyce can maintain the energy or even disturb you for a while and save the best for a crescendo of release
Got suckered into buying pic related because it's heavily advertised on Google. I have never experienced such a sharp drop-off in intrigue and pace in my life. DNF after 150 pages because none of the characters are properly developed and none of the stories go anywhere.
Wtf happened to pirate and roger mexico? The book just starts following Slothrop’s rocket-guided boner, which is okay I guess, but the other two were much more interesting characters
Halfway through Gravitys Rainbow and was wondering about this. I dont mind it tho, Slopthrop is funny and he makes me hæhæ
Yeah honestly I gave up on it, I felt I got out of it what I wanted in the first half. I guess they come back but idk why he abandoned them in the first place. Giving up on Roger Mexico’s love affair (They are in love. Frick the war) was unforgivable for me. I got an extremely acidic feeling when death interrupt their siesta, when the bomb blows out the shudders as if to say “just try and tickle me”. Why the frick would he go away from that scene for like a hundred pages? I felt betrayed and gave it up. Pirate I found funnier than slothrop too. Idk. Big dissapointment but still I put the book way up there in my favorites for what I did manage to get out of it.
>was unforgivable for me.
He does not give up on it and it is a very important part of the novel despite being a small part. > but still I put the book way up there in my favorites for what I did manage to get out of it.
But you didn't even finish it...
12 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah cause the second half is shit. Do you not understand the threat, frickface?
12 months ago
Anonymous
Are you a dilettante in general or just when it comes to reading? I am guessing in general by your reaction.
12 months ago
Anonymous
Ive probably read more lit than you, also I make 6 figures and have fricked and loved a small myriad of beautiful women and created my own family. My interests aren’t many outside of alcohol, women, and literature, but I’d say I’m pretty well-rounded when it comes to appreciating life. Can you say the same?
12 months ago
Anonymous
>being a dilettante means you are well rounded
lol. I am comfortable in my life and where it is going. >Ive probably read more lit than you,
Probably not, I got drinking and woman out of my system 20 years ago and have been fairly focused in my interests and goals since.
Something tells me you are shelf poster.
12 months ago
Anonymous
Great job using a homosexual-ass word youre so proud to know just to “get” people. I know what the fricking word means idiot, my point was that one can be a dilettante when it comes to living, ie half-assing it in general or dedicating it to some stupid fricking idea thats probably wrong anyway, like a Sherwood Anderson “grotesque”. You are dedicated to reading now is it? Well good for you, but nobody is going to give a frick or remember at the end of the day because people are moronic and basically don’t even know literature exists.
12 months ago
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It is not that I "get" people, I just understand the difference between a dilettante and a well rounded person, the well rounded person would not have made it about ego and made boasts which they can not support, things like assuming you have read more than someone you do not know and then get triggered about it when you find out that it is not true. Ultimately it comes down to how we relate to our own ignorance, the dilettante denies them and resorts to ego and attack, the well rounded person acknowledges their ignorance and says that is for those with more skin in the game.
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Well its hard to judge as someone who knows nobody else with skin in the game. But I would not on an objective level consider myself one since I feel I’ve read a lot of great literature. Funny thing is I’d probably just want to cut up with you if we’d met and talk about lit with someone who actually isnt a moron. Do you write yourself? I want to but have barely dabbled since I’m so busy all the fricking time. I could reference Either/ Or
Most longer novels introduce the overarching themes in the first 50 pages and the spend the rest of the work following the plot as character drama.
Some novels deserve their length, most are very repetitious as they don't introduce or expand upon the themes past the second or third chapter.
The Hobbit. I know this is controversial, but I have an extremely difficult time getting through the dry anglo writing, especially from Tolkien who is the driest.
Crime and Punishment. 90% of its quality is contained within the first 100 or so pages. The middle is full of paid-by-page filler and the ending is cheap christcuckery.
You are a moronic stupid Black person.
TBK is much better. It basically has C and P in it. Once you’ve read TBK there isnt much need to bother with C and P. It is recognized simply because people dont have the fortitude for TBK.
thematically c&p is kinda "subset" of tbk, but i found c&p a more enjoyable read because it is streamlined and better focused with its themes
Filtered
I felt Neuromancer and Ringworld had shown me everything they were going to show in the first 1/3
Seconding neuromancer. Truth be told everything there is in it can be gotten from the shorts in Burning Chrome.
Yeah, and to be fair to Gibson he wrote a much better novel in Count Zero. I think partly because it was a serial in a magazine meant he had to keep adding new stuff but also he knew he couldn't write a 3rd act to save his life, so he wrote 3 narratives with 1st and 2nd acts, and then ended it there. It makes for a much faster paced novel.
Worm by Wildbow
Don Quixote
Some of the bests parts of the book were well Into part 2
Bad opinion, though the inn part did drag on a bit.
Low-key everything i read feels like front-running, i often discard books halfway through. Only really good writers like Faulkner and Joyce can maintain the energy or even disturb you for a while and save the best for a crescendo of release
Journey to the west. Nothing against that book, but the beginning chapters about Monkey are some of the most fun stuff I've ever read
Got suckered into buying pic related because it's heavily advertised on Google. I have never experienced such a sharp drop-off in intrigue and pace in my life. DNF after 150 pages because none of the characters are properly developed and none of the stories go anywhere.
Your a homosexual.
Almost all of Kafka, if he was able to finish the story at all
Dracula. Only the part about the mansion is any good
Under the Volcano
Gravity’s Rainbow
Wtf happened to pirate and roger mexico? The book just starts following Slothrop’s rocket-guided boner, which is okay I guess, but the other two were much more interesting characters
Halfway through Gravitys Rainbow and was wondering about this. I dont mind it tho, Slopthrop is funny and he makes me hæhæ
They both return, just need to keep reading.
>don't leave me...
Yeah honestly I gave up on it, I felt I got out of it what I wanted in the first half. I guess they come back but idk why he abandoned them in the first place. Giving up on Roger Mexico’s love affair (They are in love. Frick the war) was unforgivable for me. I got an extremely acidic feeling when death interrupt their siesta, when the bomb blows out the shudders as if to say “just try and tickle me”. Why the frick would he go away from that scene for like a hundred pages? I felt betrayed and gave it up. Pirate I found funnier than slothrop too. Idk. Big dissapointment but still I put the book way up there in my favorites for what I did manage to get out of it.
>was unforgivable for me.
He does not give up on it and it is a very important part of the novel despite being a small part.
> but still I put the book way up there in my favorites for what I did manage to get out of it.
But you didn't even finish it...
Yeah cause the second half is shit. Do you not understand the threat, frickface?
Are you a dilettante in general or just when it comes to reading? I am guessing in general by your reaction.
Ive probably read more lit than you, also I make 6 figures and have fricked and loved a small myriad of beautiful women and created my own family. My interests aren’t many outside of alcohol, women, and literature, but I’d say I’m pretty well-rounded when it comes to appreciating life. Can you say the same?
>being a dilettante means you are well rounded
lol. I am comfortable in my life and where it is going.
>Ive probably read more lit than you,
Probably not, I got drinking and woman out of my system 20 years ago and have been fairly focused in my interests and goals since.
Something tells me you are shelf poster.
Great job using a homosexual-ass word youre so proud to know just to “get” people. I know what the fricking word means idiot, my point was that one can be a dilettante when it comes to living, ie half-assing it in general or dedicating it to some stupid fricking idea thats probably wrong anyway, like a Sherwood Anderson “grotesque”. You are dedicated to reading now is it? Well good for you, but nobody is going to give a frick or remember at the end of the day because people are moronic and basically don’t even know literature exists.
It is not that I "get" people, I just understand the difference between a dilettante and a well rounded person, the well rounded person would not have made it about ego and made boasts which they can not support, things like assuming you have read more than someone you do not know and then get triggered about it when you find out that it is not true. Ultimately it comes down to how we relate to our own ignorance, the dilettante denies them and resorts to ego and attack, the well rounded person acknowledges their ignorance and says that is for those with more skin in the game.
Well its hard to judge as someone who knows nobody else with skin in the game. But I would not on an objective level consider myself one since I feel I’ve read a lot of great literature. Funny thing is I’d probably just want to cut up with you if we’d met and talk about lit with someone who actually isnt a moron. Do you write yourself? I want to but have barely dabbled since I’m so busy all the fricking time. I could reference Either/ Or
They come back but Slothrop is the main character. I love GR but I remember being confused because he basically introduces Slothrop 1/3 of the way in
Most longer novels introduce the overarching themes in the first 50 pages and the spend the rest of the work following the plot as character drama.
Some novels deserve their length, most are very repetitious as they don't introduce or expand upon the themes past the second or third chapter.
Any of the longer Peter Handke books
unironically the bible
Atlas Shrugged.
Should have just asked mom to make pancakes which I would have enjoyed much more.
Wind Up Bird Chronicle: Frick you, bastard.
God Murakami fricking sucks ass
Wind-Up Bird Chronicle would look like this.
Frick Boris the gulag and frick Cinnamon and Nutmeg just giving Toru the house.
Lucky Per
The Count of Monte Cristo
The ending is rushed but cmon its still incredible
every manga
Starship Troopers, the first chapter is balls to the wall, edge of your seat stuff and it never reaches those heights again.
The Hobbit. I know this is controversial, but I have an extremely difficult time getting through the dry anglo writing, especially from Tolkien who is the driest.
The Things We've Seen by Agustín Fernández Mallo
So a bad book then?
Eragon. Robert Jordan did a great job, but they switched authors part-way through and Paolini trashed the thing.
I liked Dune but it went to shit when Leto died imo