Did the CIA have any involvement in the Crack epidemic of the 80s or is it just a popular myth created by black media.
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Did the CIA have any involvement in the Crack epidemic of the 80s or is it just a popular myth created by black media.
Does drug use in deprived, disadvantaged communities really require a conspiracy theory to explain?
Yeah this theory never made much sense to me and just comes off as “white people fault” cope.
You guys are going to sit there and deny CIA involvement in Contra cocaine trafficking?
I'm not denying CIA involvement, but even before the Contras existed there were urban newspapers across the US noting the rise of crack cocaine as early as 1980
(cont.) And lets be honest the main controversy is over whether it was a deliberate CIA plot to destroy urban black communities or not
No it wasn't deliberate. The objective was to raise funds to support the Contras. But selling cocaine to the Black community was a means to an end. That's why people blame the CIA.
Yes if Nixon War on drugs was a war on Black people, it's safe to say that CIA did do this.
https://eji.org/news/nixon-war-on-drugs-designed-to-criminalize-black-people/
It explain why crack epidemic always in Black communities but never spill to White ones even poor ones.
>on the verge of releasing a new book on the War on Drugs in 2016
>"coincidentally" release a much-disputed quote from a Nixon aide a few months before the release of your book - a quote that said aide supposedly swore you to secrecy that you'd never release the quote before he died...in 1999
republicans are like israelites and homos for the right price they'll do anything.
https://www.businessinsider.com/nixon-adviser-ehrlichman-anti-left-anti-black-war-on-drugs-2019-7
Nothing they said was countered. I find it hard why you people with all your distrust of the government and media some how not believe a republican gov with a known bad track record of Blacks would do something like this.
>Nothing they said was countered
Because it's fricking moronic and nonsensical, do you sincerely believe the American president had a massive impact on street-level drug enforcement because he had some kind of /misc/-tier vendetta against blacks? How do you explain moves like Nixon threatening Turkey with economic sanctions if it didn't curb opium production?
The fact that even places like *Vox* have looked into it and said that Ehrlichman was likely just being facetious/sarcastic in talking to a reporter that was obviously angling for some gotcha quote about the War on Drugs just being a cynical attempt to frick over blacks/hippies for the lulz says it all really
When it is establish fact the war on drugs specifically target Black neighborhoods and yet failed to stop both drug use and drug dealers and it's still going for 50 years where all it did was jail Blacks with little or no crime, it's no longer facetious. But you knew that didn't you anon, I know you don't care about Blacks and feelings mutual about your ilk, but don't you a fricking cracker right winger with all your crazy conspiracy about israelites and white replacement theory and false flag, Big Pharma or Wuhan lab shit, somehow dismiss this clear unconstituional, government overreach policy that clearly targeted a specific group for prison labor led by a clear racist who's known to say and pass racist coded policies to Blacks as nonsensical.
Prohibition failed to stop alcohol use among white americans, was it also a passive-aggressive attempt by an anti-white govenrment to frick with white people for the fun of it?
>but don't you a fricking cracker right winger with all your crazy conspiracy about israelites and white replacement theory and false flag, Big Pharma or Wuhan lab shit
Yeah, man, you've nailed it, the War on Drugs was really just a passive-aggressive attempt to frick over blacks because...one Nixon aide supposedly admitted it with the journalist he admitted it to only releasing that quote a few weeks before the release of a book he wrote on the War of Drugs. I'm sure you have time to enlighten me on what specifically Nixon did to ensure that streel level enforcement by American police would specifically and exclusviely target blacks, but, well, I'm a racist krakkker so obviously there's no point on expanding any further.
Do you sincerely believe that the CIA is in control of drug production in Latin America, and that - if they wanted to - they could just tell Colombian drug lords to stop manufacturing coke?
>Prohibition failed to stop alcohol use among white americans
You comparing apples to oranges with even different contexts of both. A false equivalence.
> anti-white govenrment to frick with white people for the fun of it?
Yes cause it wasn't the first time policies secret or otherwise hurt white people.
>Nixon did to ensure that streel level enforcement by American police would specifically and exclusviely target blacks
The fact that most of that were jailed were somehow process of drugs and not any other crime for one, the fact that the ones that had criminal records were let loose early and only on Black neighborhoods to cause more crime, while the ones that happen to have crack were giving 50 years, the fact that it never curtail drug mules or dealers or usage and somehow made it worse and Only in Black areas never have I seen it leak to white ones even the poor methhead areas is suspect in itself.
>"Alcohol usage is completely different to drug usage - we could easily win the war on drugs if we weren't obsessed with fricking over black people for the fun of it"
Do you really believe this? Or can we just skip to the part where you start cracking jokes about white people ODing on fentanyl
>Do you really believe this?
I mean the context and the methods to enfore the law were two different things and at least the alcohol affected everybody not just focus on Blacks.
Do you honestly believe that drug use wasn't an issue in white communities up to the mid-80s?
>Because it's fricking moronic and nonsensical
So is the republican party and their previous admin, don't b***h about moronation and nonsensical when you literally have republicans actively doing unconsititutional illegal things right this moment, hell one even complain they couldn't lie to authorities:
https://thehill.com/news/house/3511477-gohmert-if-youre-a-republican-you-cant-even-lie-to-congress-or-lie-to-an-fbi-agent-or-theyre-coming-after-you/
> do you sincerely believe the American president had a massive impact on street-level drug enforcement because he had some kind of /misc/-tier vendetta against blacks?
Yes, you seen the shit desantus and trump done just out of spite. Diff is the people back then were more covert and smart on it.
> Turkey with economic sanctions if it didn't curb opium production?
Was opium sold in Black neighborhoods? No? Alright then maybe America didn't want Turkey as competition or whatever. There's always us interest behind it, you can argue why didn't they do the same in Central Asia like Afghanistan.
"If Republicans are doing something unconstitutional, that obviously means they're capable of doing anything (and that means they must've done what I'm claiming they did)" is a nonsensical line of reasoning.
>Yes, you seen the shit desantus and trump done just out of spite
What relevance does that have here?
>Alright then maybe America didn't want Turkey as competition or whatever
It's an obvious indication that Nixon's drug policies weren't motivated solely or mostly by racial animus, since there was little reason to threaten a key geopolitical ally over something that was relatively inconsequential like opium production.
>"If Republicans are doing something unconstitutional, that obviously means they're capable of doing anything (
When they get back into federal power yes, and with courts its game over.
>What relevance does that have here?
That they done it in past is why they're doing it again.
>It's an obvious indication that Nixon's drug policies weren't motivated solely or mostly by racial animus
Well you're fricking idiot but you're right winger, you can't take nuance and context into consideration.
>since there was little reason to threaten a key geopolitical ally over something that was relatively inconsequential like opium production
There were drug production in Latam that were allies of USA and even stoogies, he never told them to stop production of their drugs and was opium used in america?
>durrrrr red team bad
>vote blue team, they neber corrupt 😀
I can't tell if you're lukewarm IQ or a glowie trying to deflect blame and cause division. I'm leaning toward the latter.
No, no one did in this thread.
People here will blame the CIA for every bad thing under the sun but the moment leftists do the same they will shift gears and say that the glowies are actually innocent and it's just an insane conspiracy theory.
this, remember when you post "based glowies", you're actually posting "woah I can't get enough israeli deep state dick"
At most they just turned a blind eye to it.
Anything to spite Black folk.
>deprived, disadvantaged
oh no :~~*((
It isn't about usage, it's about how the drugs got there and the relationship between glowies and drug traffickers.
why must you peddle black conspiracy theories on a history board?
There are reports of crack cocaine hitting the streets of every major urban area as early as 1980, before the Contras were even organized; at most the Contras - and their CIA backers - simply profited off a glut of cocaine that was triggered by skyrocketing coke prices in the US.
It is interesting to note however that this is one of the rare occassions that Left-leaning types will acknowledge the involvement of glowies in the domestic drug trade - I haven't heard a peep from them about how the CIA was also responsible for the meth epidemic of the '00s, or the fentanyl/opioid epidemic currently sweeping the US.
Libtards only care if it hurts brown people
moron alert
Basically the Feds did work with people who had a hand in crack flooding cities, but it wasn’t direct involvement and they had no goals of the sort.
It was a social experiment to see if communities could survive drug epidemics,Blacks preformed decently enough, so we eventually approved of the later opioid crisis for later use on wider scale.
It started with them overtaking the hippie movement and turning it from an anti-war one into the "sex and drugs". They needed to sell and promote drugs to youngsters for it catch on kek.
iran-contra affair
whether they distributed it they sure did buy it
>Ingersoll was convinced that street arrests and mass roundups explained the FBN’s many failures, and he remained stubbornly focused on the high-level international traffic. Nixon, however, needed splashy arrests to complement his political strategy. This fundamental conflict of interests set the stage for a power struggle that typified Nixon’s approach to the presidency and the drug war. The tension between the need to apply new strategies and demonstrate political results shaped the direction of Nixon’s entire drug war, and one of the first products of that tension was Operation Intercept. Eager to follow up on Nixon’s militant campaign rhetoric and overcome the apparent ennui of the BNDD, the White House enacted a plan in September 1969 to dramatically increase Customs inspections at the southern border. Ground operations were supervised by BNDD agent Joe Arpaio, a veteran of FBN operations in Turkey, and G. Gordon Liddy, a Treasury official and zealous drug warrior. The project was, in Arpaio’s words, “a full-out assault on the drug traffic right on the border.” Every vehicle or person crossing the border was subject to “100 percent inspection” in an effort to prevent smuggled drugs— specifically marijuana—from reaching American consumers.
Yeah, that sounds like the kind of anti-drug policy a hysterically-racist president would use to try to frick with blacks for the fun of it
>What most observers overlook, however, was Nixon’s overriding emphasis on treatment and rehabilitation. “Enforcement,” he argued, “must be coupled with a rational approach to the reclamation of the drug user himself.” There were practical reasons for a more humane approach. “The laws of supply and demand function in the illegal drug business as in any other . . . ,” Nixon explained. “As long as there is demand, there will be those willing to take the risks of meeting the demand, so we must also act to destroy the market for drugs.” To that end, Nixon announced the creation of a temporary White House agency to lead the national response and coordinate treatment at the federal, state, and local levels. The new agency was called the Special Action Office of Drug Abuse Prevention (SAODAP), and Nixon installed a Chicago psychiatrist named Dr. Jerome Jaffe at its head. Nixon’s first “drug czar” was a doctor. SAODAP was designed to coordinate and fund disparate treatment systems across the country, including neighborhood outreach, live-in therapeutic communities, and, most controversially, methadone maintenance. Part of the administration’s unorthodox approach stemmed from the realization that, despite Nixon’s campaign promises, there was little the feds could do to directly alleviate street crime. So the White House team turned to new solutions.
Methadone treatment? Therapeutic approach? Obviously Nixon was trying to frick over blacks Plantation 2.0 style and get them addicted to methodone...or something idk
>Obviously Nixon was trying to frick over blacks Plantation 2.0 style and get them addicted to methodone.
Wouldn't be surprising.
idk but Ozzy claimed the FDA were peddling coke
>from CIA feds
ftfy
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NTA, but
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>durrrr red team bad
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I just realize 3d people are uggos regardless of race and america is den of shitty looking people.
>The CIA wanted to weaken the United States for.... reasons
Pray tell, how does fueling a drug epidemic within the US's borders help the US in any way?
Help the rich and prison labor, private prisons.
>prison labor, private prisons.
How much of the US's output is from such prisons? Not enough to outweigh the damage done by crack, certainly.
https://corpaccountabilitylab.org/calblog/2020/8/5/private-companies-producing-with-us-prison-labor-in-2020-prison-labor-in-the-us-part-ii
https://www.npr.org/transcripts/884989263
>nonpartisan public news radio says things I don't like therefore must be false
I'll agree that CNN and Fox are both pretty shit at political takes, but don't you dare talk shit about NPR
money from drug trafficiking, plenty of secret services are involved, same happened in 80s Spain with heroine
Career CIA glowBlack folk have the same relationship to power and secrecy that elites have to sexual degeneracy. Given license, they think they can do anything. Nixon dindunuffin, in fact he spent much of his presidency trying to deal with political rivals a la Trump. However, that doesn't mean le deep state did what he said.
>Source from website I disagree is fake cause website I no like.
people who scoff at npr are literally moronic and have no clue about journalism. 100x more moronic than the muh cnn muh fox news discourse
Are you kidding me? NPR was literally having a constant meltdown about Trump as soon as he announced he was running for president. They're no less biased than CNN
They blatantly did, yes. I'm not sure if it was intentionally to destroy anything though, just greed.