Do black holes actually exist? Or is it just overhyped popsci bs? Have we actually observed them in nature?
Do black holes actually exist? Or is it just overhyped popsci bs? Have we actually observed them in nature?
Do black holes actually exist? Or is it just overhyped popsci bs? Have we actually observed them in nature?
BELIEVE
SCIENCE
you literally made this same thread but about quantum entanglement yesterday
I'm another anon, I haven't posted on IQfy in a few weeks now.
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>you can't question muh black holes!!!
>thats heresy!!!
>I need muh black hole because of muh gay soientism religion and muh gay soience fiction fantasy life that I got from watching too much television
common sentiments of people with zero schooling in physics.
>ITS A CONSPIRATTTHHHHCY!
there's a lot of evidence for them
show me?
look up
done. wheres the evidence?
Have sex
>are the scientists who are spent years and years of their live studying physics and the nature o ou univers wrong about this thing which they pretty much all agree is real
No, the right wing conspiracy theorist who dropped out of high school to install plumbing has it all figured out an the woke scientists just refus to admit it because of wokeness or atheism or communism or something.
Or maybe, you just need to take your meds. . .
>Implying OP has a job
OP is probably a NEET.
I hate how popular contrarianism has become
go to
if you're obsessed with politics
What makes you think you're better than plumbers? This condescending behaviour is common with midwits.
That sort of narcissism is commonly a coping mechanism for people who consider themselves inferior but are too lazy to do anything to improve themselves.
Yes. No. Yes.
Bro I literally just made a thread about this earlier kys
>Have we actually observed them in nature?
We have observed many of the predicted effects that they would produce in space around them, yes. Effects that nothing else we can think of would produce them.
>cannot imagine the thought process that got us to the conclusion that black holes exist
All you black hole deniers are either brain damaged or you never gave it even 10 minutes of thinking. You should do some reading about the history of the idea, long before Einstein and relativity
They've only imaged part of the accretion disk so far
Which is really all there is to image.
Yeah basically
I guess they've detected the Gamma radiation pattern that a quasar can release, so that's another win for black holes existing.
No, they haven't.
The M87 image is entirely synthetic. The angular resolution of the image is smaller than any existing radio telescope array on earth.
The only way to get an resolution that small would be with coherent interferometry, but it is not possible with the disparate, uncoupled radio telescopes
The astronomers just performed a kind of matched filter analysis on the dataset.
That is to say, they rejected data that didnt produce the image they expected to see, and accepted data that confirmed it.
Seeing as they had hundreds of terabytes of data, they could have synthesized any small image they wanted from a random data set.
The same scientists havent made public their methods.
people who understand the minutia of these things understand that its fake, but thats a tiny tiny percentage of people. the average sci-fi goyslopped will still think its real because they're too unsophisticated about imaging to comprehend how the image was produced and they believe in black holes because of confirmation bias from seeing them in their sci-fi tv shows so often.
what percentage of the population has a degree in physics or astronomy? 0.01% or less?
everyone else believes in black holes because tv says so
The black hole model actually comes from a mistake Hilbert made.
http://jp-petit.org/papers/cosmo/1970-Abrams.pdf
http://jp-petit.org/papers/cosmo/2003-Antoci.pdf
>Do black holes actually exist?
each of these points would be worth several threads of discussion
in response to point 9, refer to the post above yours
no of course they don't exist, they're just a meme from star trek movies
>Have we actually observed them in nature?
you make it sound like there are black holes walking around the rhinos and giraffes
our universe is in one right now (in my opinion)
we're looking out and wondering what this dark energy is that's accelerating everything away from us when we're just falling
Personally I don't understand the people who say black holes are a conspiracy. No one gains anything from making up distant astronomical phenomena.
>No one gains anything from making up distant astronomical phenomena.
sure they do, they gain justification for billions of dollars of research spending which benefits nobody except themselves, all of that money comes out of the taxes of productive people who do real jobs that are legitimately useful and necessary and who don't want to pay for worthless astrocrap and who have no interest in it.