Thought I'm getting shilled into another meme from IQfy, but I'm actually very enjoying this one
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fuck, it's good
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Thought I'm getting shilled into another meme from IQfy, but I'm actually very enjoying this one
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you thought you were getting shilled but it turns out you're just a pleb
explain, or you're a pleb
it's a fantasy novel, it's not some niche secret. this is like some moron thinking Hyperion is obscure scifi without realizing that every nerd on reddit has already read it, the only reason the severian books seem special to you morons is that they haven't been adapted into a movie or a tv show yet
you just said nothing, aha
do you think you're on discord, homosexual? this isn't a personality contest, have a nice day
Sure, homosexual. I see you're very biased against this book and can't provide any argument why. Discord might be better place for morons like you
He was just annoyed at the way you said “frick, it’s good” anon. As a person equally annoyed by disagreeable phrases I understand his pain. If you titled the post differently he probably wouldn’t of responded.
>wouldn't of
Hey anon I’m just offering an explanation. It doesn’t matter when I do it.
It's scifi, not fantasy
No, it's not you fricking moron. Do you think Adventure Time is science fiction too?
He literally works in a spaceship but okay dawg.
Stanislav Lem is science fiction, this homosexual post apocolyptic steampunk nonsense with sword fighting is not science fiction. Jack Vance, George RR Martin, and you can tongue my dirty shit stained butthole.
Have you read the book?
Yes, have you? How could ylu possibly read a book that takes place in a completely fictional secondary world with all kinds of fantasy elements and not realize you are reading fantasy?
>a completely fictional secondary world
This is some pleb class trolling right here.
I will ask you again, do you think Adventure Time is science fiction. Because Adventure Time and Shadow of the Torturer are the exact same thing.
Weird fiction, if you want to be accurate. Speculative fiction if you want to be pedantic. Postmodern mystery using fantasy as a disguise for the literary main character's real genre if you want to drop some acid and throw away the pretense that any part of your argument is remotely amusing or worthwhile.
God you're a homosexual, it's a series about a guy going around in a cape getting in sword fights and using made up fantasy words. You read an escapist fantasy novel, that's it, you may as well have read Lord of the Rings or Game of Thrones or just played a video game like Morrowind. Stop blowing smoke up your own ass. Next thing you'll do is read Blood Meridian and act like you've discovered something obscure there.
Do you have any other reason to dislike popular things besides them being popular?
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>cape
made of space-black
>sword fights
space-flower duels
>made up fantasy words
shitty trolling, scopolagna is a perfectly cromulent word for a sailor's bunk mommet.
Imagine being such a insecure contrarian that you feel the need to convince IQfy that Book of the New Sun is popular as Game of Thrones.
it's not, it's a distinctly fantasy story with some dystopian post-apocalypse stuff going on in the background
It's like Discworld is a science fiction because it takes place on a giant turtle floating through space.
your gay
after reading the botns, i bought every gene wolfe novel and have been working through them. i thought he was my favorite author, then i started reading jack vance's dying earth novels. he's better than wolfe. give those a read if you like botns.
i dropped after 40 pages. just felt pointless. re-reading night land again instead.
i understood nothing of the second half of the last book.
Whats your favorite part so far, OP? Do you enjoy the writing style and the "reading between the lines" stuff Wolfe sprinkles throughout?
My fav scene rn is Severian's dream when he was sleeping in one bed with that giant Baldaners (or smth like that). Very nice, imaginative prose, giving depth and mysteriousness to this world. I hope the giant and his friend/master? will come back later. Now I'm at Severian hanging out with that girl Agia and they're preparing for some kind of weird fight.
I shall now continue reading
baldanders is dr. talos' master
don't spoil, anon. it's such a good ride.
what about that time when severian randomly found some frankenstein creature in mountain ruins and the creature took him aboard a secret tunnel train pod that led inside a gigantic statue of itself and it turned out the creature was some ancient king thousands of years old yet still alive and it started touching its own dick for some reason and severian killed one of its heads and he climbed down the face of the gigantic statue because the magical train pod did not work anymore and went back to sleep in the ruins like nothing happened and it's never mentioned ever again.
did it happen or was it like a dream or something?
Read Urth
Just finished The Citadel of the Autarch, like 2 hours ago. I browsed a couple of discussions on the internet, saw something.
Severian did NOT rape little Severian. That's bullshit.
Loved the first four books, but I found Urth very underwhelming and it made the experience worse in retrospective. Are Short Sun and Long Sun worth it?
Not if you disliked Urth
They're different enough and more what someone wants from a sequel, at least the kind of people who read shit like wolfe.
Short sun basicallu deals with the same issues Urth does. Stylistically different? Sure, but thematically is closer to Urth than to Botns.
I honestly felt like the chariot race was the dullest part of the first book. At that point, the narrative was becoming dull and aimless (a side quest within a side quest) and I almost dropped it. The gardens got me back into it though and I have remained hooked in the series since.
i can't wait for you to get to sword of the lictor.
Are you implying I won't like it?
Yeah, but it at least was very interesting. I understand that I undermined my main point, but I guess I would amend my statement to say that the chariot race was uninteresting AND a side quest.
oh no. sword of the lictor is fricking awesome. it's the most hero's journey of the 5 books. i wish i could reread these books again for the first time.
they get better on successive reads.
>The gardens got me back into it though and I have remained hooked in the series since.
That's the biggest sidequest in the entire series
The Green Man scene might be the peak of the New Sun tetralogy
I read this and gave it 2/5 stars. Here's the review I wrote:
Made it 90% of the way through. I have no interest in reading the work of a pretentious twat who purposefully uses obscure vocabulary in order to make the book more difficult to understand. Why use "monomachy" instead of "duel"? Because when you use big words it makes you feel like a big boy? The book has essentially no plot. It is full of random characters that are met briefly, and then never mentioned again. The protagonist has little personality. The prose is mostly good. Some interesting philosophy. The concept of an unreliable narrator only works when placed in a familiar setting, so I contrast what I know about the world with what the narrator may be lying about. It fails utterly when it is used in a poorly-explained, alien world: yes, the narrator may be lying, but about what, and how am I supposed to know?
>Made it 90% of the way through.
Look at this tough guy
>I have no interest in reading the work of a pretentious twat who purposefully uses obscure vocabulary in order to make the book more difficult to understand. Why use "monomachy" instead of "duel"? Because when you use big words it makes you feel like a big boy?
This is explained in the translators note at the end of the book
>The book has essentially no plot.
I bet you can't visualize objects in your mind with your eyes closed
>It is full of random characters that are met briefly, and then never mentioned again.
Almost like the Severian is on a one way journey
>The protagonist has little personality.
He's constantly struggling with his own thoughts
>The concept of an unreliable narrator only works when placed in a familiar setting, so I contrast what I know about the world with what the narrator may be lying about. It fails utterly when it is used in a poorly-explained, alien world: yes, the narrator may be lying, but about what, and how am I supposed to know?
How can one be filtered this hard?
I'm smarter than you, guaranteed.
Good for you. I guarantee I will live a better life than you.
It’s supposed to be interactive with the esoterica - you’re supposed to look it up. It’s like house of leaves it’s fun. 🙂
wait till the next book anon
it picks up the pace, the whole series is amazing
how far in are you? the beginning is great, falls off a lot when the setting changes but still pretty good
the sequel book (5?) also worth it?
i felt the first half of urth was a bit slow but still enjoyed it. the second half is kino and some of my favorite content in the entire series.
What's good about it, exactly?
I found Urth a bit of a slog, but a few months down the line, reading all five of the books together seems like it was the best move. I just wish that it explained when Urth of the New Sun was actually written. It's kind of annoying that the other 4 books emphasise the manuscript and Severian's reflections on the events of the story years later, while simultaneously giving no real explanation to when Urth was written