Ive been trying to get this thread up for a while so lets try again
Post any leader you think that cared about the people they were doing what they did for. Please also give a small summary of them too.
Genuine Good Leaders
Ive been trying to get this thread up for a while so lets try again
Post any leader you think that cared about the people they were doing what they did for. Please also give a small summary of them too.
Any reformist socialist figure such as Dubček, Broz Tito and Nagy were good leaders
Ho Chih Ming is a son of b***h
He was, but his intent was to do good. Thats my point.
Great, so Mao Zedong applies too.
mutts
Seretse Khama
Chuck Sneed
George Washington.
Early on, you could argue he was fighting the war of American Independence because the British trade laws were fricking over his plantations and limiting his ability to import quality goods so he was just a billionaire chimping out and just wanted the prestige of being Commander-in-Chief. I mean, the fricker wore his fricking Virginia colonial militia uniform every day to the Congress meetings.
But man, this frick resigned his commission when the war was won. He had the loyalty of the military, his greatest rivals (Gates and Lee) were humiliated, and all the high officers were basically on their knees begging him to take the crown and ready to suck his small-pox ruined dick. Congress was deeply unpopular, the public adored him, and this fricker just gives it all up to go back to his farm. He even goes and tells a bunch of angry officers to stop getting mad with his whole "I've grown blind and gray in service to my country". During the entire revolutionary war, he only went home to Mount Vernon ONCE and that was only because the army was en route to Yorktown to besiege the British there. While other officers quickly requested leave during winter, Washington stayed with the army, year after year, setting an example for his men and officers.
Any other frick in charge of the army might have gotten some ideas: installed a dictatorship, seized the crown, disperse Congress a la Cromwell did a century earlier. It's incredible how the right man in command could have changed the course of history.
That’s probably all historical mutt revisionism the guy chimped out cause he couldn’t get a promotion
Seething chang
It’s literally the truth the guy was a redcoat bootlicker that rebelled due to not getting a promotion seethe more
Yes, yes, he wasn't a good leader because you personally view his original grievance as petty
No offence, but in all honesty, Mao and his army’s achievements during the Chinese civil war makes the American Revolutionary War look downright pathetic and tiny in comparison. Commence seething on my whim, mutt.
I love when the wumaos schizophrenically flipflop between decrying Chiang as a corrupt, incompetent moron that would be defeated by a child at checkers but Mao's defeat of the KMT was simultaneously some David vs Goliath struggle unprecedented in human history
I love when the amerimutts schizoprehnically flip-flop between decrying the king of England as a corrupt, incompetent mean moron that could be defeated by happy-go-lucky colonial farmers but Washington’s defeat of a small fraction of the British army was simultaneously some David vs Goliath struggle unprecedented in human history
See how easy it is to flip around everything you squeak out and use it to rape you in turn, mutt
Alright, keep derailing random threads with your seething about americans, Xiao
Gladly, Hernandez!
>decrying the king of England as a corrupt, incompetent mean moron that could be defeated by happy-go-lucky colonial farmers but Washington’s defeat of a small fraction of the British army was simultaneously some David vs Goliath struggle unprecedented in human history
Both are true.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliament_of_Great_Britain
Well, yes, both are true. But the point’s that every country blows smoke up their own ass when it comes to their independence/revolutionary wars.
it’s an objective fact, however, that Mao’s Long March was Valley Forge on steroids.
Oh come on now, you already know
Unironically Lenin
>having to take over in a coup leading your country to a civil war, former Allie’s now see you as a vile enemy, having to implement state terrorism just to hold onto power, getting shot, and ruling a grand total of 4 years of a dying country only for your sychophantic inner circle to immediately start bickering and fighting each other for the throne like dogs over a slab of meat because there is no line of succession in your tin can country
Lol, Lenin was a complete fricking moron.
>In October 1899, Stalin began work as a meteorologist at the Tiflis observatory.[47] He attracted a group of supporters through his classes in socialist theory[48] and co-organised a secret workers' mass meeting for May Day 1900,[49] at which he successfully encouraged many of the men to take strike action.[50] By this point, the empire's secret police, the Okhrana, were aware of Stalin's activities in Tiflis' revolutionary milieu.[50] They attempted to arrest him in March 1901, but he escaped and went into hiding,[51] living off the donations of friends and sympathisers.[52] Remaining underground, he helped plan a demonstration for May Day 1901, in which 3,000 marchers clashed with the authorities.[53] He continued to evade arrest by using aliases and sleeping in different apartments.[54] In November 1901, he was elected to the Tiflis Committee of the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party (RSDLP), a Marxist party founded in 1898.[55]
>That month, Stalin travelled to the port city of Batumi.[56] His militant rhetoric proved divisive among the city's Marxists, some of whom suspected that he might be an agent provocateur working for the government.[57] He found employment at the Rothschild refinery storehouse, where he co-organised two workers' strikes.[58] After several strike leaders were arrested, he co-organised a mass public demonstration which led to the storming of the prison; troops fired upon the demonstrators, 13 of whom were killed.[59] Stalin organised another mass demonstration on the day of their funeral,[60] before being arrested in April 1902.[61] Held first in Batumi Prison[62] and then Kutaisi Prison,[63] in mid-1903 he was sentenced to three years of exile in eastern Siberia.[64]
this gentleman didn't actually want to invade s vn and unify the country, he also cucked out to america and worst of all instituted the drive for literacy using the gay as hell whiteman script, terrible leader
Black Friday, whateva happened there-
Do we know his haplogroup?
Philip IV of France, Boris III of Bulgaria, aside from some well known great leaders and some of those that were mentioned here.
Does he count? He was the de facto head of the League of Lezhe for the entirety of the rebellion and every Albanian looks up to him.
I would also definitely consider Augustus as a great leader.
His conduct in war lead him to have a solid following, both military and civilian, and he was the only unanimously elected President. He lead the country through its violent birth (the war) and its troubled infancy in the early days of the Republic, both successfully. He was a perfect balance of stern leadership without falling into the trap of becoming a brute tyrannt
>can't produce an heir
failure by definition. also the sneak attack on Christmas is shitskin tier and I wish it was at least downplayed or ignored and not pairing in giant display pieces everywhere. always made me feel like a piece of shit when I saw it
There’s nothing that makes sneak attacks less legitimate than any other form of attack
>attack quick and quiet when they don’t think you’re going to blah blah blah
>-sun tzu
it's a dishonorable act. it's by definition less honerable. it was supposed to be a truce and he broke it. it wasn't a generic sneak attack or ambush out in the field of battle
You’re just a bitter Anti-America pissant and this is extreme cope.
>durr using the element of surprise while fighting a war is bad!
Better to have no heir than having your favorite and sole heir you raised die because he wanted some fried rice.
>One of the bombs destroyed a makeshift building near the caves, killing Mao and another officer. Several conflicting reasons have been given as to why Mao was in the building, including suggestions that he was cooking food during daylight, in violation of Chinese Army regulations,[1][8][11] fetching documents, or sleeping late due to night duties,[9] which had led to him missing breakfast.
>Egg fried rice protests are a form of internet protest used by Chinese users occurring yearly around October 24, Anying's birthday, or around November 25, the date of his death. Posting recipes for egg fried rice is done as a subtle jab at the death of Anying during the Korean War; such posts are usually blocked or taken down by Chinese officials and can lead to sanctions against those involved.[17]
This always came across as weird to be. Anying wasn’t some idiot raw recruit, he was already a veteran of the eastern front in WW2 and would have fully understood the value of not being seen from the air, considering the Soviet army got really good at camouflage towards the end of the war. I wonder how he really died
I think the area he was stationed in was considered "safe" since it was mountainous and hadn't been bombed in some time. That sort of lax in discipline and arrogance of "heh, nothin's happened so far so why be so strict?" led to him exposing himself.
But the area was also reconned the day before, so it could have been a really lucky hit and the frick was unlucky enough to be in the kitchens making fried rice when he shouldn't have been and could have lived.