has America produced any world-renowned poets or authors? If so, who and in what capacity? does anyone give a frick about Walt Whitman and Poe and Hemingway outside the US?
has America produced any world-renowned poets or authors? If so, who and in what capacity? does anyone give a frick about Walt Whitman and Poe and Hemingway outside the US?
yeah
who?
Were done here lads.
amerisharts never produced anything of value, only globohomosexual propaganda in service of their tribal masters
No authors nor poets outside of the Holy Bible matter.
Herman Melville, his stories are still mentioned to this day, like Moby Dick for example.
Edgar Allen Poe is the standard of short stories that are used to this day, and his influence inspired many greats like Alfred Hitchwiener and Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
Mark Twain has written one of the greatest pieces of modern literature in Huckleberry Finn, and has received praise globally for his works.
Henry James popularized the "point of view" narration style, which added more depth to stories than before.
F.Scott Fitzgerald wrote The Great Gatsby, one of the few books to remain a best seller decades after his death. And his books are a great way to view The Roaring Twenties outside of a history book.
William Faulkner is one of the best cerebral writers of the 20th century, and is a Nobel Literature Prize winner.
John Steinbeck wrote many classics like The Grapes Of Wrath, East Eden, and Of Mice And Men. You may forget the author, but you remember his stories.
Ernest Hemmingway is influential in his writing style. He taught himself how to edit his prose, stripping it to the bone and creating a greater intensity by the omission rather than the inclusion of detail. The result is to create significant connections and meaning beneath the surface of a sparse, apparently simple, almost monosyllabic narrative, using the simple sentences that a child might use. He also employs cinematic techniques such as cutting quickly from one scene to the next and of splicing one scene into another. Intentional scene omissions allow the reader to fill in the gap, creating for herself a three dimensional prose. Authors to this day adopt this practice.
Arthur Miller was a playwright, but his plays are some of the greatest of the 20th century. The Crucible, Death Of A Salesman, and All My Sons are must see. He even wrote the script for the movie The Misfits, which is seen as one of the best movies of the 1960's.
all of them are talentless hacks (maybe id save poe)
americans are unable to make top of the notch art
Please explain in detail what makes them talentless hacks
i dont like prose
most of the authors you cited are prose writers thus unlikeable
i genuinely hope you suggest me some american poet who isnt pound and elliot
heres your (you) moron
>I don't like prose
So any author that uses prose is a talentless hack? You are mentally moronic, anon.
i might be
still you havent suggested me some nice american poets 🙁
But rhyming is fricking embarrassing. I listen to a lot of foreign music so I don't have to endure rhyming in English or know what they are saying. I like translated poetry so I don't have to be phonetically inflicted with rhyming. Even then I stick to classical literature because modern poetry is fricking gay.
Nah it sounds bad for the reasons stated. At best it could have been better. Also the production value is terrible and the bass and drums are mixed too low.
>I think it sounds bad for the reasons stated
ftfy
poetry is not just about rhymes
No it's also about self indulgent opaqueness. Not a fan of that. Just state your thesis or use the superior medium for emotional expression- music. I find words to be embarrassing for emotional expression without being veiled by narrative.
i kind of agree with what you have stated
i believe that one of the highest form of art is opera
Other than inventing country, jazz, r&b, bebop, swing, crooning, funk, and fusion. Then if you count the latins there is bossa nova, cumbia, samba. Honestly all of the best music of the 20th century came from the Americas. Obviously I love the yuro parroting though as Jamiroquai is my favorite band, love the Brand New Heavies too.
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IIRC the USA has as many Nobel Prizes in literature as France and the UK.
Obama has a Nobel prize too
No one actually cares about these people outside the US
>Obama has a Nobel prize too
not in literature, homosexual
>No one actually cares about these people outside the US
kys
t. not american
Nobel Peace Prizes are not the same as Literature or Sciences.
>Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, and Englishman, is inspired by Poe
One example that disproves your IQfy filled shitpost.
Another example is Faulkner's influence to French novelist Claude Simon.
You are uneducated, and spend too much time on IQfy. You should lurk and not post for a long time.
>No one actually cares about these people outside the US
In Germany at least Twain and Steinbeck are compulsory reading when you visit more than just elementary school.
Huh really? Thats kind of cool.
I like Mark Twain!! 😀
>In Germany at least Twain and Steinbeck are compulsory reading when you visit more than just elementary school.
No, they are not.
t. German with Abitur
I've talked with people from Argentina, the UK, and Russia that all admired Poe. At the very very least I can say with certainty that he's renowned outside of the US.
Edgar Allen Poe is extremely respected in Europe.
Only heard of Whitman through Breaking Bad, but the other two I heard about in school.
Same lmao
>hearing about Whitman through Breaking Bad and not the Sopranos
Walt frickin' Whitman ovuh here.
You posted him.
Walt Whitman was part of a major plot point in Breaking Bad though, and so the reference to him is alot more memorable than it is in The Sopranos.
Lovecraft and Asimov were both American to name a couple, "literature" may be a dead end but American popular fiction has worldwide appeal.
Unironically H.P.Lovecraft
Yes. American writers such as Melville, Pynchon, Gaddis, Gass, McElroy, DeLillo etc. brought the form of the encyclopedic novel to new heights.
Jim Morrison was a glowie plant
And he was based
How? The music is bad
No, it was great
How? It's poorly arranged and doesn't suite the vocals. The keyboardist clearly didn't know what he was doing. Every composition is amateur.
>suite
homie you can't even write
I still know more music theory than you.
And yet your taste sucks lmfao
Nah, the music is bad. This album is my current jam. I didn't even like The Doors much during my boomer rock phase when I was 15. To be fair almost all rock music sounds bad to me now.
>all rock music sounds bad
>admitting you have shit taste then have the gall to judge others
Discarded and filtered
I grew out of rock music when I was like 22. It is just too amateurish and it sounds like the musicians don't know what they are doing. I generally listen to Bill Evans or Ted Greene in the mornings and classic Bakersfield country music at work. I do like one rapper though because he uses mostly half-rhymes so it isn't so bad and makes a lot of biblical references in regard to the psyche.
I think it's good and that's all that matters
Really, only greatest hits? Light My Fire is the biggest example of the keyboardist being bad but People are Strange is better with writing around the melody.
>only greatest hits?
And?
>keyboardist being bad
Nah, the keyboard is what makes the song great.
Yeah nah it is extremely sloppy. The intro ruins the entire song. There are multiple mistakes in it. Then he just pumps a couple chords with no left hand work. And over all with the composition he is playing too close to the mids for the vocals. Instruments in a composition should sit above and below the vocals in pitch for the most part for balance. Classic country is a perfect example of this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0PjacHLI9Y Notice that the bass is significantly lower than Waylon with the leads and chords played sitting an octave above him. This makes the composition balanced and enjoyable. That is the problem with most rock groups without a producer cleaning up their compositions. They have no idea what they are doing. If the keyboard and guitar were played an octave above or if even just one did it wouldn't be so muddled sounding.
>bla bla bla muh theory bla bla bla
If it sounds good it sounds good, it's that simple.
But it sounds bad. I'm not even looking into the chords, just the arrangement. I get that you play no instruments and know no theory and listen to bad music sold on branded authenticity based purely on the words though.
>But it sounds bad.
That's just your opinion.
As a nonamerican there are quite a lot of American authors I enjoy. Wharton and Thoreau are my favourites.
>*shitty CIA-funded circus music starts playing*
>I EAT MORE CHICKEN THAN ANY MAN EVER SEEN
>*shitty guitar solo*
>SHE GET HIIIIGH
>SHE GET HIIIIIIIIIIGH
>SHE GET HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGH
>*shitty ten minute keyboard solo*
>FRICK FRICK FRICK FRICK FRICK FRICK FRICK FRICK
>*song ends*
wow, truly the GOAT band. Thank you Jim Morrison for your truly groundbreaking """music"""
To be fair lyrics are by far the least important part of music and as a patrician myself I like a lot of foreign music so I don't have to endure a shitty narrative but can still enjoy the vocal work. No I do not look up the translations.
Johan Rowling, Ayn Rand, Tolkien, and Isaac Asimov.
Rowling and Tolkien are Anglos, not Americans.
One of the generally-acknowledged greatest works of poetry in the English language is James Merrill's 'Changing Light at Sandover.'
What's interesting is that some of the best poets produced by the US were explicitly anti-American. Robert Lowell had a famous poem called 'Children of Light' which basically said that America was a huge mistake:
>Our fathers wrung their bread from stocks and stones
>And fenced their gardens with the Redmen's bones;
>Embarking from the Nether Land of Holland,
>Pilgrims unhouseled by Geneva's night,
>They planted here the Serpent's seeds of light;
>And here the pivoting searchlights probe to shock
>The riotous glass houses built on rock,
>And candles gutter by an empty altar,
>And light is where the landless blood of Cain
>Is burning, burning the unburied grain.
'Unhouseled' in the technical sense means someone who hasn't been given the Catholic sacraments, but Lowell was basically saying that American settlers were a bunch of rootless merchants who constructed a nation of stingy greedy homosexuals.
what a loaded question, so clear you are just here to seethe about the US
America has produced:
>blm
>lgbt
>radical feminism
>pedophilia
But thats about it.
Only BLM is American there, the rest are European
I'm perpetually amazed at how Euros here have convinced themselves that they're not the epicenter of LGBT mania worldwide.
Magnus Hirschfeld was German in Berlin m8