Has Pascal's Wager been refuted yet? It seems to me rejecting Christ is just doubling down on a choice between suffering forever and not existing.
Has Pascal's Wager been refuted yet?
Has Pascal's Wager been refuted yet? It seems to me rejecting Christ is just doubling down on a choice between suffering forever and not existing.
moron
>take the wager
>get sent to hell for betting
>take the wager
>turns out the god that was right hates homosexuals who only believe because of meme ideas while not hating non believers
>take the wager
>turns out the real god was actually an athiest the entire time in self denial and sends religious people to hell
those are just several thought experiments, also the guy himself outright stated the wager was never supposed to be used as an actual argument
>Be God
>Be all-knowing, all-seeing, all-powerful
>Know a pseud homosexual is insincere and trying to go to heaven
>Send him to the worst part of hell because he's trying to gainsay you
Pascal's wager is stupid
this was always the strangest part, the wager was never meant to be taken as a serious argument as it is predicated on not sincerely believing in God but simply hedging your bets
the process is completely antithetical to coming to God with your full heart and on top of this for believers it is unnecessary and for nonbelievers it makes no special argument for Christianity in general - any religion that promises punishment for deviance would have the same wager and most of them are mutually exclusive
none of it makes any sense when you think about it for more than twenty seconds
Atheist cope
moron
How? Explain
>another episode of moronic pseud doesnt know what words mean
>Take the wager
>Go to Hell because you believed in the wrong version of God
>Has Pascal's Wager been refuted yet?
Gnoscticsm I suppose?
God could be flawed, made a flawed shit reality (duck penises, cancer, heredity disease, being ugly, 75% of the planet is fricking salt water, etc) and worshipping it is immoral and stupid?
This is a devastating refutation that doesn't get the attention it deserves.
This
this opens up an interesting question
if the Demiruge's Earth is this flawed, what would his attempt at paradise look like?
Would he be able to successfully create any kind of eternal torment?
>if the Demiruge's Earth is this flawed, what would his attempt at paradise look like?
>Would he be able to successfully create any kind of eternal torment?
The Supreme Creator God/Demiurge being flawed creates a unique opportunity for Hope to exist. If the Creator is flawed then that means everything they've made is flawed and usually that sucks, but that also means that 'goodness' can still exist despite their best efforts and things can strive to be "better" than their creator. This discrepancy creates opportunity and evil and good can actually be acknowledged in a meaningful way that can't be done if God is perfect.
If God is perfect then we have to constantly cope with the shitty'ness of their reality. If God ISN'T perfect then we don't 100% have to accept the things we don't like- we can strive to change them in some way or another or grow past them.
>Blaise the philosopher
heh... nothing personnel kid...
The Christian hell isn't the only possible hell. How do you know you won't be damned for being a Christian?
Hell doesn't exist
https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/ebtv/is-hell-real/
Hell does exist and JW go there, bud.
Pascal’s wager was refuted back in pascals lifetime lol. There’s infinite possibilities for the afterlife or at least many religions so the possibilities aren’t only Christ and atheism so the percentages and options are not as clean as pascal presented them. They’re much less. When pascal himself was confronted with this he did met it with extreme dismissal of the other religions for basically no reason.
Shit if you really want to go schizo you can even say there’s the possibility that being an atheist would get you into heaven and belief can get you into hell if god is funny enough. There’s no evidence this can’t be the case. Pascal’s wager is dumb!
Pascals response from Wikipedia:
What say [the unbelievers] then? "Do we not see," say they, "that the brutes live and die like men, and Turks like Christians? They have their ceremonies, their prophets, their doctors, their saints, their monks, like us," etc. If you care but little to know the truth, that is enough to leave you in repose. But if you desire with all your heart to know it, it is not enough; look at it in detail. That would be sufficient for a question in philosophy; but not here, where everything is at stake. And yet, after a superficial reflection of this kind, we go to amuse ourselves, etc. Let us inquire of this same religion whether it does not give a reason for this obscurity; perhaps it will teach it to us.
it's pretty consistent, but it's not perfect:
Pascal's wager confirms it is better to follow a religion than to be irreligious, but it does not say WHAT religion you should follow. That is its biggest limit.
Also, the wager is not weighted: There are religions so bad you could decide to not follow it despite the minimum chance of it being true.
There's not a lot of options that aren't completely moronic.
It implies the probability of Christianity is near 50% or significant at all. In reality if there’s a 99.99999 repeating chance that it’s false, it’s a waste of life to be a Christian
>accept that Pascal's wager exists and convert to Catholicism like Pascal wanted
>it turns out that the real religion is actually Sunni Islam and you go to hell for being a polytheist
thank you Pascal, very cool!
> he doesn't know
It's a israeli pro-slavery argument rehashed.
>Has Pascal's Wager been refuted yet?
funnily enough no, based on the expanded pascal's wager the best thing to be is an evangelical christian (not a cucktholic, mind you) to get to heaven no matter which religion is true
>there’s a 99.99999 repeating chance that it’s false,
He quantified the odds, see!
From a Christian standpoint the Pascal's wager would not work because it's not like you could just randomly start believing the Bible or become a Christian. You need the word of God to quicken and enlighten you.