How come Spanish people ended up with less admixing from outside of Europe than Italians? Genetic distance to ancient Romans shows most similar to Valencians. Someone like Donnarumma could never pass as a Roman or as a local in Spain but he can easy pass as a local in most of Italy especially in the south. Memers often forget that Iberians spread a lot of genes in north africa but modern Iberians have no DNA from north africans and are paler than Italians and even than a lot of French people. Studies showed that Gibraltar actually was a genetic barrier. New studies showed that Italy has near east ancestry but this ancestry is never found in Spanish people.
Imho Iberians are the closest thing to Romans in modern days time espcially Basques
It's a tiny difference and it's because Italy is closer to central Africa.
Your point is?...
That they were closer. That's the end of the thread utter dumbass.
Iberia is closer to North Africa than Italy is....
Morocco has zero population
It had high population in the past
If you say so.
I accept your admitting of defeat
Italians were ruled by the Ottomans for a long time so that could have something to do with it while the Spanish were never really conquered AFAIK
Bait
>Memers often forget that Iberians spread a lot of genes in north africa but modern Iberians have no DNA from north africans and are paler than Italians and even than a lot of French people
Wrong on both accounts. Iberogroids are the only Europeans with a ton of African admixture (both Nafri and SSA) and are also significantly darker than Italians due to this.
Then why someone like Donnarumma is the quintesentiál Italian?
He's from Naples. He doesn't represent the average Italian. Want me to start cherrypicking Andalusians now? South Italians are still less shitskin than Spaniards though lel.
You already cherrypicking you insecure Italian
Because Italy was the core of the empire and Iberia part of the periphery.
So why do Italians feel insecure and try to project on Iberians?
You are one delusional mulatto lol. Iberians have been thoroughly raped by Africans for entire centuries, today half of Iberia is descended from Black folks.
>The highest frequency of haplotype 5 (68.9%) was previously observed in Berbers from Morocco, and it has been established that this haplotype is a characteristic Berber haplotype in North Africa. The relative frequencies of haplotype 5 distribution show a geographical gradient of decreasing frequency according to latitude in Iberia: 40.8% in Andalusia, 36.2% in Portugal, 12.1% in Catalonia, and 11.3% in the Basque Country; such a cline of decreasing frequency of haplotype 5 from the south to the north in Iberia clearly establishes a gene flow from North Africa towards Iberia.
You made this up
Nope.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11758696/
It's not yDNA it's maternal
Next time read the title of the study lol
>North African genes in Iberia studied by Y-CHROMOSOME DNA haplotype 5
Yes but what you posted is about maternal
First stage of grief: denial.
>half
No
>Imho Iberians are the closest thing to Romans in modern days time espcially Basques
you made this thread a billion times, the basques are the least close among all iberians, proof has been showed to you multiple times, who are you? what do you keep making this thread?
this is a very old study that doesn't use ISOGG nor YFULL, iberians have some 5%-10% E as plenty of modern studies show
you are so fricking stupid, so recognizable and always constantly falling for bait
He's an Iberian coper
https://desuarchive.org/int/thread/151092068/#151092068
The Nafri genes in Iberians are too strong. This guy is half-Dutch yet looks 100% Moroccan. More shitskin looking than Donnarumma in my opinion. Don't even need to cherrypick a deep southerner. literally posting a half-North Euro person LMAO.
Let's be real, if this guy wore a beard he would be mistaken for an Arab.
Really, you be the judge. That guy looks like a full blown Moroccan. Donnarumma just has an odd nose.
Cherrypick
You don't get to complain about that when the thread started talking about Donnarumma. Turns out there's a player in the Spanish team who's even more shitskin looking than him, and he doesn't even have the excuse of being a southern like Donnarumma, he's literally half-North Euro.
his mother is mulatto THOUGH, so he is a quarter black
>half ditch
You forgott to add his """dutch""" mother is picrel
she looks unironically very dutch. Her dutchness is uncanny
1. Rome was globalist moloch of an early iteration so a capital region of it must have been victim of its inner workings more than even rich peripheries.
2. Spanish were obsessed with racial purity due to first Visigothic conquest(the term blue blood comes from Spain and refers to their aristocracy being less swarthy for obvious reasons) and then arab conquest and reconquista. Even in 18th century Asturian little aristocrats could marry way out of their league because of more or less accurate perception as less arabised.
dunno man certainly has nothing to do with the romans shipping in millions of bantus from the transatlantic trade displacing all native italics that were then lured by gibs into Rome and died before their 20s to disease or to beasts in the coliseum
Are people on IQfy really that insecure about their own lives that they obsess over who is more or less moroccan? You know the colour of you skin has no bearing on your happiness right?
its hilarious tbh, fricking love these autistic talks.
My prediction and I hope it's true. Morocco was home of atlantis and had a vast multicultural multiracial empire that had lasting genetical impact. All europeans are descendent of berbers.
Kek. I'm from IQfy and I come to this board from time to time just to laugh at these people.
Imagine this being the thing that preoccupies your mind. Such a hollow existence.
>but modern Iberians have no DNA from north africans
KEK
Model with Guanches and they're all around 15% Berber, except for Catalonians and Basques.
>ancient Romans
Those were non-Romans pre-Kingdom era. There are no Roman samples before the imperial era.