>i did say it, the equipment just didn't pick it up
>okay so maybe i didn't say it, but that's just my dialect
>okay so maybe everyone else who has my dialect says it but uhhh i don't okay
>no, it still makes sense even though "man" and "mankind" mean the same thing in that context
>s-stop laughing at me
It should have been buzz.
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Anyone who knows what southerners sound like can tell you he was trying to say 'for a man'. The people doing the transcriptions were idiots.
garbage thread
log off neil
He was from Ohio.
Yeah I got where it's from wrong but even though I can't name the fricking accent I've at least heard it enough to know that he was saying something like "F'ra man" as a contraction of "for a man"
His hometown was Wapakoneta in the center west of the state. Ohio accents vary some; in Cincinnati the accent is slightly more Southern due to being adjacent to Kentucky.
Armstrong was from Ohio, he wasn't a Southerner though. It seems like almost all the Apollo astronauts were Midwesterners.
Alan Shepherd was from New England but otherwise this does seem to be true for most of them.
and Wally Schirra was from New Jersey but the other five of the Mercury Seven were Midwesterners. i guess there's something about staring at endless flat cornfields all day that makes one want to take to the sky and fly an aircraft.
Buzz was from New Jersey too. The fictional captain Kirk was from Iowa which a lot of people mention for some reason. Michael Collins was a military brat who lived everywhere which makes sense, you'd expect military pilots either come from a military family or grow up around crop dusters in the Midwest as you say.
>and Wally Schirra was from New Jersey but
He was hanging out in Toots Schorr's bar in NYC when he heard about the accident on Apollo 13. That must be the Northeasterner in him. I can't imagine Neil Armstrong or Deke Slayton hanging out there. That was where guys who looked like Frank Sinatra hung out to complain in cliched NYC/NJ accents about their three ex-wives over a fifth of scotch while Toots would humor them and make jokes. Until they shut his place down for not paying his taxes.
Have you ever met fighter pilots? It’s like they’re all the same person, like somebody grows them all in a vat. They have to be the kind of person who is virtually unflappable, who can juggle a thousand different crucial decisions while maintaining a calm, professional demeanor, and nothing can ever get under their skin no matter how bad shit is hitting the fan. That’s the kind of person you want manning your ridiculously experimental test planes and/or your highly visible spacecraft on its high stakes historic flight
>it flies in the sky?
>let's get the air force guys on this
you are overthinking it
It’s not that they fly in the sky, it’s that you can’t faze them no matter how much bad shit you throw at them
As see previous post.
Deke Slayton was conscious of this when he picked crew selections. Certain astronauts like Ed White annoyed him because he didn't perceive them as having the best personality for a moon mission. He really wanted a guy like Armstrong or Lovell who was absolutely unflappable and like a rock, and some astronauts he thought as just being a little too weak or feather-brained. I guess the culture of the Midwest breeds that kind of stoic unemotional personality.
after NASA he lived on his Ohio farm. at least he didn't abandon his shithole state when he could have run off to California and spent the rest of his days tanning on the beach with lingerie models. it was joked that Cole Porter left Indiana as an adult and only returned to be buried there.
>Armstrong had his right thumb lopped off while operatng a tractor on his farm in September 1980--his wedding ring snagged on a rotating part of the tractor and pulled in his hand. He gathered up the thumb, put it in ice, drove himself to an area hospital, and was able to have it surgically reattached.[8]
similar shit happened to my grandpa
was using a table saw in the 70s and cut through all four fingers on one hand, just picked them up and got them reattached
t. hoosier
>all four fingers
cutting from pinkie to pointer is a mistake
deciding to finish the job and cut off the thumb too is metal
christ
>southerners
>had a midwest accent from being born in Ohio
You’re right, but you couldn’t have blown this any harder, anon
>The people doing the transcriptions were idiots.
What did you mean by this? The moon landing was broadcast on live television, how are you blaming this on "transcriptions"? You can find a video of him on youtube and clearly hear him not pronounce the "a" in "one small step for [a] man".
My interpretation was that he forewent the indefinate article in 'a man', saying 'man' in a noble savage or beige prose sort of way. I know that wasn't the actual reason but maybe that's what people thought at the time and it made more sense and had more lasting power that way.
I think the most interesting part of this story is the fact that NASA, nor the US government, didn't coach Armstrong on what to say. They just let him say whatever the frick he wanted. Pretty neat.
while true, they did select a guy they could trust to say something memorable and poignant. some astronauts like Pete Conrad who were noted practical jokers would have said something stupid/cringe.
what would buzz have said?
Email him and ask him, I'm sure its a question he's spent thousands of hours thinking about.
Personally I want to know what alexei leonov would have said
i recall a boomer (was it on NASA Spaceflight Forum? I don't remember) saying he once received an email from NA unprompted after he mentioned on his blog about how he was wondering why the EVA on Apollo 11 was only 2 hours. he explained that they didn't know how durable the coolant system in the EVA suits was so he didn't want to risk being outside in the 200F heat of the Moon's surface too long even though they had about 4-5 hours worth of oxygen.
Thats actually pretty cool. But it also means he vanity searches himself and is probably in this thread or even made it
He died in 2013 so I'd hope not.
meds
Not in my time line.
“To infinity, and beyond”
Who gives a shit? Never understood why this gets some people's panties twisted in a knot.
Kek. He shoulda' just said this.
The entire northern hemisphere deserves to die for not having colonies on the Moon by now.
Tajikistan especially
>colonies on the Moon
Dumb idea
Just use O'Neill cylinders
how exactly would this work?
>An O'Neill cylinder would consist of two counter-rotating cylinders. The cylinders would rotate in opposite directions in order to cancel out any gyroscopic effects that would otherwise make it difficult to keep them aimed toward the Sun. Each would be 5 miles (8.0 km) in diameter and 20 miles (32 km) long, connected at each end by a rod via a bearing system. Their rotation would provide artificial gravity.
>Large mirrors are hinged at the back of each stripe of window. The unhinged edge of the windows points toward the Sun. The purpose of the mirrors is to reflect sunlight into the cylinders through the windows. Night is simulated by opening the mirrors, letting the window view empty space; this also permits heat to radiate to space. During the day, the reflected Sun appears to move as the mirrors move, creating a natural progression of Sun angles. Although not visible to the naked eye, the Sun's image might be observed to rotate due to the cylinder's rotation. Light reflected by mirrors is polarized, which might confuse pollinating bees.
>The habitat and its mirrors must be perpetually aimed at the Sun to collect solar energy and light the habitat's interior.
How would they work as originally designed, with gigantic windows and natural lighting? They wouldn't. Climate control would be virtually impossible, and orienting it so both contrarotating cylinders get light would result in the sun constantly spinning around in the artificial sky which would probably drive people crazy, not to mention it would maximize the colony's exposure to solar radiation in addition to visible light. A version that didn't rely on natural sunlight could work as a habitat though. By filling the "bottom" outermost levels with their sumps and water systems in general, they could use water to block out ionizing radiation. Nuclear power would be far preferable to using solar energy at the distance of the asteroid belt anyway, and that would be the only place where building such a thing would be remotely practical due to the abundance of metal not locked down on a planet with gravity to worry about.
Only correct take itt unsurprisingly
I like "That's one small step for man" better, "man" contrasting "mankind" feels like some kind of absurdism that loops around to being a grand statement.
I think its one of the greatest quotes of all time and sounds great
Everyone knew what he meant, and it sounds better the way he said it. I have never in my life heard anyone question this quote until now
Yeah this thread is fricking weird and not in a cool David Lynch kind of way.