I work as a programmer and Ted's anti-tech ideas really resonated with me. I wish I could quit this soulless fricking industry and do something more meaningful with my life. I want to be a good person. Could you recommend me any quality reads, maybe something anti-tech that's not written by Kaczynski?
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>I wish I could quit this soulless fricking industry and do something more meaningful with my life.
You can.
I don't know what to do outside of tech. I'd have to start from scratch in a new industry.
That is not even remotely justification for a "can't" and probably means you never will. You are complacent and unlikely to give that up.
Not OP but I make 200k doing something I love and have a family. It isn't as easy as just quitting
If you were smart with making that much money you'd be able to quit after a year or two.
>retire on 100-300k
this homie got some good advice
lel
Where did I say it was easy? That response applies just as much to you as OP. The worthwhile is rarely easy.
Sunk cost fallacy
The Bible
LoTR (the ring is a metaphor for technics)
Ellul
Heidegger
Actually if you search the sticky you'll find an anti tech echo fascist chart so where.
>technics
this isnt' a word as far as i understand
could you elaborate
i think he is meaning technique in ellul sense. google about it, because t. midwit
Is a germanified term. Read Heidegger and Junger's brother.
>I wish I could quit this soulless fricking industry and do something more meaningful with my life.
There's nothing stopping you, you are just a pussy
There is nothing meaningful to do.
>Nothing matters because the holiest shrines of Culture have been expunged from memory. The works of Goethe and Mozart exist on paper, but the minds and ears capable of hearing them have been eliminated by the inexorable tide of democratic fads and "movements." Salvation herefrom, let alone the creation of something to loose the bounds of this natural cycle, is impossible.
Ya, you're just falling for petty-bourgeois reactionary memes. It's a typical homosexual sissy psychosis Angloid intelligence agencies induce in their victims. What you need to do is embrace maximizing human biomass and population density by speeding up all biophysical processes and throughput with fusion energy reactors and using Hegel as a aphrodisiac. Trust me man, that's what your Atlantean forefathers wanted before Angloid intelligence agencies got to mindfricking you
Nordicist Black personbabble. You are icchantika.
read Nick Land and don't quit your job.
>You once said, “You’ve got to be large…You’ve got to be able to make some mistakes while you play in a game you can never win anyhow.” If you take this out of the context of writers and apply it to the masses, what does it mean?
Bukowski: If you apply it to the masses you are going to have chaos. It means they aren’t going to accept the eight-hour job, the payments on the car, the TV programs, the movies, saving to send Jimmy to college, all the sundry dumb things they do, you are going to have bank holdups galore, the White House on fire, empty churches, streets full of drunks and on and on…
The masses can’t be large. They make mistakes but they are all mistakes. The masses can’t get out, they don’t want to, just paying off a credit card bill is one of their greatest victories. You can’t blame the masses too much, they have few alternatives. It takes a truly daring inventive soul to break free.
>Another question like the previous one… “This is our time on earth. Why pull up and play it short?” Could you explain what you mean?
Bukowski: When a man plays it short, he doesn’t look so good, act so good, he doesn’t even walk right. Most people are dead long before they are buried, that’s why funerals are so sad. Most people quit too easy, they accept the short end, they compete for small prizes and become small. I don’t expect everybody to be a genius but I never guessed that so many would rush to idiocy with such aplomb.
>Most people are dead long before they are buried, that’s why funerals are so sad.
Oh wow, that's like, so deep, man.
This is the dreck people fawn over?
simply become an electrical engineer instead
t. electrical engineer who thinks similarly and is trying to get fired so he can go into linguistics, or barring that, philosophy or shoddy mathematics
Same anon same.
>Ted's anti-tech ideas really resonated with me
>still using a computer
Frick off.
I just don’t like specializing. I like computers and think they’re pretty interesting in an autistic kind of way, but I don’t want to be tied down to them because that takes all of the enjoyment out of it for me. This is more of a complaint about how jobs and working function though. I never wanted a specific career or way of life.
cheer up lad
at least you're not brown
This schizo sucks ass and I'll tired of the meme pretending he was onto anything.
I could recommend you anti-tech books but it's still not going to solve the problem
tech is here to stay. what you gonna do about it? if you're still staying in your job that means you WANT to stay in it
otherwise if you had completely no reason to stay why would you be staying?
>tech is here to stay. what you gonna do about it? if you're still staying in your job that means you WANT to stay in it
>otherwise if you had completely no reason to stay why would you be staying?
This. It's the same archetype of people every time: cowards with a chip on their shoulder, bitter resentful egotists fixated on their own personal feelings and pleasure so they're not willing to do anything that involves living by their supposed ideals and principles (because that'd be hard), so instead they take it out on the society they feel owes or mistreats them. Mostly this involves griping from their armchairs while enjoying all the fruits their supposed nemesis (technology, capitalism, etc) provides them. Rarely, however, it boils over into deranged murderous pathology that, it should be stated in no uncertain terms, never does anything to advance their supposed cause.
Postman and Illich attempt to answer this. Tldr you must negotiate a positive personal relationship with tech.
My toilet ponderings always turn out to be serious philosophical assertions
I run my own business that involves programming and I love life and my family and I think any moron that has a problem with society and thinks he, personally, knows how things should be done, is a mentally deranged stray that should be put down.
>any moron that has a problem with society and thinks he, personally, knows how things should be done, is a mentally deranged stray that should be put down.
> anyone who disagrees with my money making activities is objective wrong
Not shocking that this is your position
You've baked an assumption into your premise: that tech is soulless.
Tech is the future. If you rescind and give into primitivism for the sake of ideological purity, all you're doing is handing the future over to other people who WILL take that technology and shape the future with it.
I think people should embrace technology. I think people should confront it head on, and fight fire with fire. Express your "soul" as part of the betterment of the future course of civilization.
Because frankly, it's not up to you in the grand scheme of things. Technology will win, because people are gay and moronic and are encoded to prefer whatever's easy for them.
I think you and billions of people should die instead.
Great, and I hope your people die instead of mine.
The game is that simple. Worms like you live in fear, and it's embarrassing.
>I support industrial society but at least I'm white 🙂
Snow Black folk that support industrialization are just as bad as israelites.
Just finished a phd and vowed to never work in academia for similar reasons. I work part time in editing now while looking for/deciding what to do next. I'm already happier than I've been in the past 5 years.
What did you find so disagreeable about academia? The usual repressive woke stuff?
The whole industry is gamified so that academics are chasing prestige points in the form of journal publications, which are not in the least connected to actually doing good research. Combine that with a general air of superiority in academics who think they are doing serious important work which benefits society in some way.
I could go on and on about why my area (psychology) has not had anything interesting or true to say about the human condition in the past 50 years, but it all stems from a soulless, corrupted system.
All in all, playing a game and pretending I'm doing something important just to collect a nice paycheck is not the life I'm after.
>prestige points
Not just publications, it’s also your CV. People in my field have a whole set of unspoken “rules” to get into academia like:
1. Ivy, MIT, or Stanford diploma/credentials.
2. Degree has to take X amount of time.
3. Postdocs have to move around every 2-3 years.
4. No more than two postdocs.
Shit becomes absurd when I see a professor flaunt his one year Harvard postdoc while going to mediocre schools prior. But these are the people getting positions. The more conformist the better. So innovation dies and in its place come woke morons and apathetic machiavellian douchebags who are good at getting grants from the government. There may be good research around, but it’s 10% tops.
It’s funny that faculty climb over each other to get credentials and get a faculty job without tenure while the administrators they answer to have twice as nice lifestyles and make double the money, often without the PhD even. Not that it’s good that administration is how it is, but you’d think the academic strivers would’ve gotten wise.
Ellul
Postman
Illich
Lewis Mumford
Augusto del Noce
Postman is easiest start. Noce is rough.
i'm a programmer and i'm also trying to quit but not necessarily because of my growing aversion to tech, i'm just sick of carrying a good 70% of my team on my back fricking constantly
>hey anon can you make a Powerpoint explaining this research you put together
>okay sweet now can you make sure all the relevant teams get it in a summary email
>uhhh i don't get it because my attention span doesn't go past three slides or three sentences, let's have a call
>yeah i'm still not getting it let's have another call tomorrow
rinse and repeat
and then these birdbrains expect "innovation" when a good half of them could be booted with no problem at all and senior management treats you worse than gum on their shoes
>Could you recommend me any quality reads, maybe something anti-tech that's not written by Kaczynski?
Biocentric Metaphysics by Ludwig Klages
I would recommend Ernst Jünger and Friedrich Jünger.
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>I wish I could quit this soulless fricking industry
You could do that right now if you actually cared.
There's nowhere to go. Software development and this entire career field is bullshit and everyone constantly moves the goal posts
Waste your time studying this shit for 5 or 10 years, go ask about software dev and then everyone will suddenly tell you about how you'll be replaced by AI. As if it wasn't bad enough getting outsourced by indians and third worlders.
That's also not to mention most companies laying off junior developers and then putting up a hiring freeze recently. Frick this gay career
The best way out might be through. You could consider going all in on the highest paying software career you can imagine or maybe pursuing a PhD. Just a thought.
I have 5 fricking years of experience and schooling and I can't even get an entry level job in IT
So what?
Simply put, because there’s nothing better to do. I think at least in PhD programs, there’s a small chance you get onto something interesting. There’s still a lot of interest in “computer science” for lack of a better term in academic
philosophy.
What is it? Just curious.
>So what?
Shut the frick up dude. You obviously have a job and have no idea what it means to struggle
You must be one of those fricking idiots believing we'll all get UBI or something soon. And no, AI will make everything worse and raise unemployment
Your reply had nothing to do with what I said. Take your pity party somewhere else.
Fricking moron
>there’s nothing better to do
>t. has never been to grad school
I dropped out of my master’s program but I am probably going to start a new one soon.
Surely there is something in chemical engineering that interests you, or at least some way to make a lot of money very quickly so you can do whatever you want.
>Surely there is something in chemical engineering that interests you
Nothing I can do without some very expensive equipment
>some way to make a lot of money very quickly
I make three times as much writing software as I did working in a semiconductor fab. It's still going to take decades to amass real wealth.
>What is it? Just curious.
Chemical engineering. Specifically, surface chemistry and thin film growth.
Why would he pursue a phd? If only in some entirely new field like finance.
I got a PhD in a different field before I became a software engineer.
There is nothing worthwhile to do. I'm just putting in my time until I have enough to retire.
This post-modern technological civilisation is crushing our souls.
Just try to connect with nature without any device except maybe a portable gas stove.Thats the only thing that i found appeasing my soul as also reading .