I'm a long time linux user. So far I've never owned a smart phone but I feel like getting one.
I don't really care about any mainstream android/ios apps, phone is pretty much just small desktop to me.
It kinda sucks how you pay double the price for the same hardware with PinePhone, but I also want to support the concept, even if I could just get a motorola and root it.
The fact the PinePhone pro drivers are unfinished doesn't bother me, if anything I'll contribute to driver development.
Am I being stupid or is it worth to support the ideology?
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Android is Linux. (Linux is a kernel, AS YOU KNOW.)
my bad. should say FOSS POSIX user instead of linux user.
>FOSS
The term “FOSS,” meaning “Free and Open Source Software,” was coined as a way to be neutral between free software and open source, but it doesn't really do that. If neutrality is your goal, “FLOSS” is better. But if you want to show you stand for freedom, don't use a neutral term.
Instead of FOSS, we say, free software or free (libre) software.
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.en.html#FOSS
Thx for the hint, will use the term Free Software in the future, neutrality is not my goal
You can buy one
dont expect to be able to actually use it as a phone
its faster, and certainly usable in terms of raw power
the software still isnt really optimized though, so theres a bit of lag
the bigger problem is battery
the SoC they picked is power hungry as frick. combine that with the nonoptimized stack and you get even worse battery life than the original
if you want to be a tester or dev and support the cause then buy one, i did.
just dont expected Black personcattle-friendly product for consoomption
No. I own an original Pinephone with the keyboard and its very buggy.
Well the Pinephone Pro is very different from the original Pinephone afaik, especially in terms of performance.
I would strongly recommend you get a normal non-pro first and decide whether you like it or not first. I personally love the damn thing, but I also do my mobile gaming / computing on a UMPC nowadays and my pinephone is basically used as a dumbphone.
Also, don't use any AT&T based network. I don't know why but they seem to have started to ban the quectel modems randomly.
Bruh the phone is 100 dollars that's just pocket money
not for a teen like me
You must be over 18 to use this site.
>eight-teen
>nine-teen
esl homosexual
Did you know that 18 years and one minute is over 18?
cope troony
Show us your cute teen butt then :3
I have one, its pretty good with arch Linux. I might switch to it full time once the next major update for postmarketos comes out.
Is it free of Chinese back doors so far?
Have some people tested it for such?
There is really no place to hide a backdoor as long as you flash the open source replacement firmware to the modem.
Does it start with the open source firmware?
No, and you can blame radio regulatory agencies for that. It's not possible to actually certify the open source replacement firmware because it's open source.
What do people mean when they say don't use it as a daily driver?
What if literally all I need is text people, get texts, make calls, get calls, and do things a low-end Linux PC can do?
My level of Linux experience is Gentoo-as-daily-driver user, will I be ok?
Can I rely on it to not get me fired/killed if it comes down to it and "don't use it as a daily driver" is basically just "muh gayms," or is it actually totally unsuitable as a real phone, as in a real *phone*, as in something that calls happen on?
I've read that complaints about not being able to make/receive calls are mostly or entirely from people who didn't check to make sure it uses the same RF band as their country, am I ok if it does for mine?
I looked this up actually:
>made in hong kong
>hong kong does not have a good relationship with china
>so despite the fact that most people outside asia think of hong kong as a part of china, things that come out of hong kong are generally unlikely to be china-pozzed
>furthermore the board is open-source hardware
>i have not personally audited it but muh many-eyes
unfortunately what makes it unusable is
"muh battery life"
see
I hear (in this same thread actually) that the standard edition doesn't have this problem as bad. How not-as-bad is it? I ask because the standard edition is all the website would let me buy so I *might* have dodged a bullet
The non-pro pinephone lasts about two hours actively used and maybe ~28 hours or so in suspend from what I've measured.
>i have not personally audited it but muh many-eyes
There is nothing to audit on a modern-day PCB. It's a fancy way to interconnect components where all the logic is at. Unless the silicon is open source, you know damn near nothing.
>incel IPS
lolno
can you run an old game with the plasma mobile environment?
can it create the box
You don't want to run plasma on this thing. It lags too fricking hard to do anything. I would strongly recommend sticking to phosh if you're an idiot and sxmo/swmo if you know what you're doing.
That said, I've played some SNES and GBC games in retroarch. You have to use rgui, manually fix the touch scale to 2x and use an overlay. But it works.
hey man, I actually have one of these so happy to answer ur questions
I bought it not to have a daily driver right now but because I was interested in following and helping the development of mobile linux
if you're buying it for any other reason - don't.
It's not ready yet, the battery life is still ass (like 4 hrs maybe max 2 with the screen on) but that shits being worked on, it'll just take time. Cameras dont work either.
I also bought it to financially support mobile linux efforts, which is a good reason to buy it also. Just don't buy it expecting something you can actually use right now, maybe come back in 1.5-2 years.
>sane and reasonable advice on IQfy
Not OP but I'd like to buy one at some point as well for mostly the same purpose - just as a second phone/toy. Really hope development continues and goes a long way, eventually we're going to get to a point where the norm will be to just have a phone that covers all your devices - phone only, no laptop/desktop/tablet. People will go to their desk, and just dock the phone in for a full display/workstation, the same way people use laptops or tablets now.
I know it'll happen eventually, and I'd like for Linux and FOSS to have a good foothold in that before gayMAN comes in and throws their dick around.
as long as you buy it with your expectations in check you're all good man
for what it is, it's really really awesome, pretty much a full linux computer you can fit in your pocket.
In my home lab I've hooked it up and messed around with it and it can do literally anything and I mean anything a linux desktop can do, it's super exciting stuff
so if you're the type who just wants to play around with some neat in development tech while also contributing financially to the devs - I'd say go for it, it's really fun to mess around with
but just be wary it's not much more useful than that at the moment. Super keen to see where it leads tho.
It's fun when it works.
As a toy? Absolutely. Much more fun to frick with than a Pi.
>2015 ARM CPU cores
Was this really the BEST they could do? This reminds me of the gay men wifi routers using Raspberry Pi 2s.
Unfortunately, yes. The alternatives all have firmware blobs that are required for operation and/or a modem built into the processor.
Look on the bright side, the GPU technically is better than an old atom netbook.
Are you one of those fly boy Zoomers that uses your phone for absolutely everything?
Then it's probably not for you.
Just expect it to be (hopefully) good at making phone calls, taking notes, location data, calendar, contacts, light browsing and media stuff, etc...
That's pretty much all I use my phone for anyways.
That's just a flip phone with extra steps.
>Just expect it to be (hopefully) good at making phone calls
it's not
>location data
it's not
>light browsing and media stuff
it's not
Sent from my PinePhone
Yeah but you have the original PinePhone, dumbass. Of course that one sucks balls. I'm talking about the new one. Lawl.
I bought it during the great 1/6 purge but it has just sat there since. So not really, for me.
I have one, and unfortunately it uses poorly documented chink soc which makes development a pain in the ass. Phones are for Black folk and I regret buying one.
Just buy a stinkpad.
buying this phone will secure your perma virgin status
Women worth fricking don't care about your phone. All they know is if you can install zoom and facetime or not.
Ignore any and all "tech" "people". If you have dignity giving them the time of day is a good way to become a permavirgin.
>All they know is if you can install zoom and facetime or not.
women are certainly not this stupid. If they see a phone that isnt an apple or samsung, they will not bother with it. Since Apple has good marketing, they will buy Apple for its brand/fashion icon and if you have something like a fricking pinephone which is just a raspberrypi slapped into a metal housing and touchscreen reminiscent of 2012 smartphone design, you'll seem like an autistic loser which is of course what you are.
PinePhone is just for you!
What if i buy one and i'm already not a virgin because i had gay sex twice, once my dad's dick in my ass against my will, and once a stranger's dick in my fat belly button
I'll buy a Linux phone the moment they fix the shit battery life, my current phone last 2 days of heavy use, that longevity is really handy and I can't imagine being arsed to change that to a phone that last merely 2 to 4 hours.
Just admit that battery technology is shit in general, and we can move on.
dogshit cope
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explin
yup he is
It sucks
also
I didn't ask you at all.