is eink a meme or is it actually good
thinking of getting an ereader to read on as i read alot would u say its worth it or should i stick to my phone and tablet
Is e-ink worth it
is eink a meme or is it actually good
thinking of getting an ereader to read on as i read alot would u say its worth it or should i stick to my phone and tablet
good i read al my mangas on eink
Send pic I wanna see how it looks!
Nice. OP is a homosexual for not answering you but I appreciated the comparison.
Mind that the digital version is kind of crap because Hakusensha is a lousy company but I don't own many physical manga in Japanese.
Manga on eink looks like shit
What's your problem?
It does not.
does cbz files work on kindle or do u gotta convert them
Calibre will handle it for you.
Kindle needs conversion for everything that's not pdf, mobi and AZW.
Most other readers support cbz and cbr.
If you root it, you can use koreader to open them. But I converted them to epub anyway, since the scaling didn't work properly with cbz for me.
is that what I think it is?
What part of 無邪気の楽園 and 雨蘭 leaves any doubt on what it is?
Nice blacks.
Mind that this is the screen saver. When reading I have the backlight on, which gives a better contrast.
Stop bullshitting. There's no backlight on the Kindle.
It's a Paperwhite and they have a backlight.
No they don't. Having a backlight is completely impractical with e-ink since it's based on black and white particles reflecting light instead of filtering or emitting like other displays. What many manufacturers use is a so called front light which shines light on top of the display so that it can be reflected.
This doesn't improve contrast like a backlight does on a LCD.
i mean technically u could call it "front light" if it makes u feel better but u get the idea
He's right.
Too washed out compared to real paper.
Bad contrast, washed out blacks, fonts look unsharp and not in focus. All those things wont happen on a good lcd or OLED screen. I have done enough comparisons with the current gen e-ink displays to know what I am talking about. What you are doing is cope. You are looking at far inferior Version of what the artist envisioned. Unfortunatelly e-ink company is trolling everybody who wants to innovate in the space and we see no real improvements because of that.
I am talking only about manga here. Font rendering for text is alright and I have read a lot of books on e-ink displays.
There's no functional difference in rendering a raster image on a LCD tablet or an e-reader. The font will look blurry either way.
I dont know why that is maybe it has to do with how individual pixels work on e-ink but even with compareable ppi the e-ink looks unsharp. Could be the extra layers on the display I dont know. Did not bother removing them. You notice it side by side.
The aspects that make manga on paper look better do not apply to e-ink.
I am not hating e-ink but people should not buy it for reading manga since they will most likely be disappointed, unless you are an animal who is reading them on his phone. A good super amoled tablet provides a far better experience for reading manga digitally (better image quality, diverse ecosystem for getting manga...). Of course the downsides like weight, needing proper lighting, battery life and so forth exist as a trade off. Most people here I figure read manga on their home. I have a mount that holds the tablet and a remote to turn pages while relaxing in a recliner to maximise the comfy experience. I swap the tablet out for an kobo elipsa if I want to read books or papers.
On eyestrain read:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22762257/
>diverse ecosystem for getting manga...
All you are saying with that is that you have no idea what you're talking about.
Yeah certainly having all the stores available and being able to use pirate applications is so much worse then having to flash koreader just to be able to drag and drop media on your device if you do not want to use pajeetware like calibre.
Looks like you are an expert on the matter of being a pajeet.
Are you really that proud of your ignorance? Do you realize it devalues everything else you are trying to say?
Not a single argument just blatant trolling. Do you plan on adding anything of value to the discussion or wanna continue baiting for replies?
I noticed it has gotten worse with the current gen of displays and I know they changed the protective layer. Some old versions did not have any at all and looked sharper imho. But yes since it is tiny black and white particles they will never be perfect.
Just read in a appropiatly lit enviroment fren
You don't even know e ink tablets with Android. Just shut up and get learned. Maybe you'll also discover the wonders of on-cell touch technology.
I have both versions of the boox air lying around (didnt have to pay for them as well). And all that I stated before is true. Its really nice when their homebrew tier type software shits the bed.
The displays still suck for anything besides text. And I dont know waht on cell touch technology has to do with image quality but you might as well enlighten us with your knowledge.
Stop lying.
They have been very generous with review samples to get free promo and get angry if you shit on them. Love to censor reviews as well :D.
Those things are not expensive so try it if you do not believe me.
And if you are EU based you can even scam them because not excepting returns violates EU law :D. Just a entertaining company doing business with in general. If you absolutely need to work with an outdated android os just buy one.
>If you absolutely need to work with an outdated android os just buy one.
The horror of having to use Android 11 in this day and age. Better wait another three months until their Android 12 models are out.
Yeah if you do plan on using it for some time. boox has never really cared for providing updates and love to remove functions 😀
Bet he loves sucking chinese pp from a company that violates the gpl and loves to phone home just as much as android. Why would you even want another spy device when perfectly fine alternatives exist?
PINECHADS I KNEEL
Has anybody received one already?
Yeah a few dev devices have been shipped but I wont expect getting one easily this year. At this state the average IQfytard wont be able to do anything with it anyways.
Is there a specific reason? It's not like it's a Kickstarter with prototype hardware, the shell itself is used by a lot of other companies.
I think its just supply chain issues like always. They never had big stock on many of the products that are past the development stage and some of them have constantly been sold out. It is just a very small company and selling hardware is a b***h.
The hardware is fine but most people want to run linux on it and there's still lots of work to do to make it nice.
400$
they are all that expensive though. At least this one runs linux and is open source. Which is both its strength and crippling weakness at the same time.
You can get e-ink readers that come with Android. I own one. I bought one for my girlfriend . That is why that anon is calling you ignorant. Because you are.
Also, with regard to sharpness, picrel is 8 point font on a 10 inch screen. My phone camera garbled it a bit, but you need to go down to 5 point font before it stops looking sharp.
The pixels are not uniform like the pixels on a screen
Also, they can get “stuck” which is why the screen goes full black every once in a while
This is why it can be less sharp
I bought it primarily for normal books, but I wanted to try mangas too and for me it's sufficient and definitely better than reading them on a phone.
Manga isn't made for LCD or OLED screens. E ink is closer to the paper experience.
You do realize they sync what you read to the Amazon servers, right?
Once you bought it they won't remove it from your device, even when Amazon removes the product from their stores.
It happened once with a dubious copy of 1984 in 2009 and people pretend that it's still a common thing.
Now Amazon is a scummy company and removing Uran from their shop shows that you shouldn't support them but they aren't as evil as some say.
you do realize that you never have to connect it to the internet right?
see
Based. my favorite.
mujaki rakuen from the same author is also a gold
That is Mujaki no Rakuen, anon.
Based!
Yes I learned that the hard way. No regrets
>Top panel is just speech bubbles
Definition of laziness
It's for effect, I don't know what the effect is since I haven't read it, but I've read enough manga to recognize it's something mangaka do for effect.
don't feed the tards
It's like a fade in from black/white in a movie. They're not doing it to save on film, it's for artistic effect. You dingus.
I can tell you're not a HxH fan
Togashi is too lazy to draw bubbles.
You will never be Japanese, Cletus
Guess how i know you're ESL
same I use the normal kindle paperwhite it's slightly small but it's still good.
This, but you need to get a huge ass screen
I have a Kobo H2O which is a lot bigger than a Kindle, I still had to occasionaly page where I had to zoom in to read the text or see the details
I have a weeb friend who pinch zooms teice for every single page on his kindle for ever manga page, on a 1Hz display. Apparently it doesnt bother him but I’d kill myself if I had to put up with that
I use a Libra 2 and I don't have to zoom in, but that might be because I started by reading manga on a 6" screen
>I have a weeb friend who pinch zooms twice for every single page
Have him install KOReader, it can automatically handle the zooming thing afaik
Anons help. I use haku neko to download my manga, but it comes in chapters right. Is there ANY WAY to combine said chapters into tomes/tankobon? Like, even if I have to manually select the chapters that compose a tome that's fine, but is there a way to fuse the cbz into tomes? Or do I need to download it as png and recreate the folders?
Actually gives I think I found exactly how to do it, if you need help doing that tell me and I will post a quick guide.
Adding chapters together doesn't make a tankobon. Tankobon have extra content that sets them apart from just the sum of the compiled chapters and if it's just a cover.
There's no reason to grab the chapters over tankobon (aside from Houbunsha frickery).
I'm sure there's a way, but it's far too time consuming. Best to download the volumes from nyaa then use Kindle Comic Converter to convert it if you're using a Kindle or Kobo device
Nyaa is a shitty source for tankobon.
Just buy them on Kindle or Kobo.
>Just buy them on Kindle or Kobo
Where do you think you are?
I know a lot of people want to pirate but for manga, piracy just can't compete with the commercial market. There's far more titles than ever get ripped and the quality of publicly shared rips is typically terrible.
It may not be obvious if you only consume the most mainstream shit but once you dig deeper it's far easier just to pay.
Not to mention that digital manga is really cheap. If you wait for the right moment you can get a lot of stuff for around 200 yen and almost everything for 300-400. For manga I particularly care about I preorder the releases to support the creators and even those end up under 600.
>piracy just can't compete with the commercial market
yeh no
For manga it can't. Obviously it won't matter for casual readers on IQfy but if you seriously want to get into manga then you have to pay.
You do realize that things on the commercial market are also pirated, right? It's not just scan groups and fan subs.
That's aside from the fact that you're full of shit.
>once you dig deeper it's far easier just to pay
There is no option to pay once you dig deeper, moron.
>Not to mention that digital manga is really cheap.
Okay, and?
>to support the creators
Send them a check, stop being moronic, moron.
The amount of obscure material that's been officially translated pals in comparison to the amount of obscure material that's been scanlated. You're just saying the exact opposite from the reality and expecting people to accept it.
I'm not sure how you can overlook that but I'm not talking about translations.
The amount of manga that gets translated is irrelevant compared to what's released in Japan. A lot of translation groups don't release their raws publicly.
People that learn Japanese tend to complain that raws are harder to get than translations when it's just them being too cheap.
>I'm not sure how you can overlook the thing that I never mentioned
Go ahead, argue that it was implied. Dumbass.
Because somebody talking about yen prices makes sense in the context of translations.
Yes, actually. Where do you think scanlators get their shit, a good will bargain bin?
So when scanlators talk about acquiring raws they actually mean buying English translated releases?
Also this is really only because they don't know where to get it. It's pirated, fricking trust me lmao.
A lot of scanlators don't know where to get raws and tend to use horrible public rips with watermarks or rescaling.
No yeah, it's hilarious. That's my point, that anon is saying obscure original material isn't pirated as much but it's like someone who doesn't speak english trying to find some obscure american product. Motherfrickers don't bother to do the bare minimum of research and just throw their wallet at the problem. Sad.
But obviously there's a secret community of manga piracy that nobody except for you has heard about.
Because pirates always have to win and it's impossible to defeat them, no matter how what services you offer.
>that nobody knows about
lol, lmao
you misunderstood, read the exchange again.
homosexual.
I kinda want to know too, but honestly I haven't been reading much as of late. But one thing that puts me off is that all I read I read on a fricking 6.7'' samshit smartphone with a super amoled screen. It's not ideal. Reading shit on my computer feels weird too.
For reading it's nice but be aware these devices have crystals that will freeze in 3-4 years, making reading difficult.
Are they? Gave my old Kindle to my gf back in 2014 and she still uses it without any problem
Does she still use you?
Pretty sure, she lets me watch her get plowed by our local bull so we do need each other
Mine works fine after 10+ years. It's slow af but I'm dumb so I read slowly
My 2012 kindle works just as well as when I got it.
>source: i made it up
What do you mean "worth it"? You either read on it or you don't.
i mean as opposed to just using a normal screen on a phone. is eink really better
Of course.
If you ever go outside (you should), they're totally worth it.
amaz for frolicking in a park
E-Readers are great if you already have the habit of reading, don't pick it up if you don't read. And also e ink is significantly better than LCD. Good investment imo.
>no glare
>no in-device distraction
>long battery life
If actually read, e-ink readers are based. Won't recommend them for books that are meant for regular consultations (e.g. manuals) because the navigation is slow and pdfs don't look good.
pdfs work well if you don't cheap out and get a model with decent size and power.
Distractions is just a matter of self-control. Don't install dozens of applications and give them notification rights.
>don't cheap out
>just a matter of self-control
why circumvent their advantages? just read on a tablet or phone then.
Since when is cheapness an advantage of E ink?
Phones are too small. E ink tablets are the ultimate solution.
e-ink is great if you like reading paper books. It's relaxing on the eyes; also no (or very little) screen glare.
I use an old Kindle DX.
>Won't recommend them for books that are meant for regular consultations (e.g. manuals) because the navigation is slow and pdfs don't look good.
Also this.
>no warranty on the screen
Many such cases. Retailers and manufacturers will just call it user damage and offer to replace the screen for 80% of the retail price of the device.
only way to read ebooks, no you can't use your PC monitor, tablet, or phone
free books on end
expensive due to no economies of scale
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I'am happy with mine. They are pretty cheap (95€ for a Paperwhite) and now I can read all my books for free too.
Which e readers that are good can read all formats including pdf and be open? I looking into kindles once but they're locked to amazon's bullshit and I need a free and open ereader.
I rooted the Kindle immediately and I read a pdf with koreader (I converted it first to epub with calibre). But if you plan on only reading pdfs I'am not sure if a eReader is the best for you. Chapters, Images, footers, tables will probably not be displayed correctly and depend on the specific pdf.
Kindle is free and open, they follow the rules of the FSF.
all formats is a complicated matter. Handling proprietary document formats like .doc isn't really that simple. You'll get best compatibility from devices that allow you to install Android applications.
A lot of readers at least have the option to install Koreader for more flexibility.
pdf depends on what kind of pdf you want to read. Effectively every reader supports opening pdf files but that doesn't mean they can properly display them. Size is an important factor, don't expect a 6" reader to work well with A4 and larger documents. Power is another one, cheaper models only have a 1GHz single core CPU and half a gig of RAM and will crap out on complex vectors.
>PDF
Unless you are reading technical shit there is zero reason to use PDF.
Nothing stops you from sideloading ebooks either. Lit has a good guide on where to get ebooks.
pdf is a standard format for layout books and all sorts of documents.
epub is the format with few uses beyond prose.
Even for prose it can be easier to get pdf scans or rips than a reflowable version.
I refuse to convert my pirated copy of Sled Driver away from PDF
The just make a copy of it?
Kobo
>pretty good choice, uran is a solid smut mangaka
why do you post capctha?
like dubs. rare and an "oooo" moment
If you read a lot, then it is wildly worth it just for relieving eye strain.
it's good if you read a lot, otherwise waste of money
eink is great for reading epub, for anything with a fixed layout and/or images it sucks
ereaders have very weak cpus to conserve power but this also means that viewing images on them takes a long time to load
also they have shit contrast if you turn the backlight on, which you will do most of the time you're indoors. In that case a tablet is much better
>eink is great for reading epub, for anything with a fixed layout and/or images it sucks
That has nothing to do with E ink. The commonly used model is a raster format just like modern LCD or OLED or even CRT, not some vector magic or mechanical display specifically designed to visualize text.
Low contrast isn't even bad.
This
>Low contrast isn't even bad.
Shut up moron
High contrast is bad for your eyes. You don't want to read ultra dark print on highly bleached paper, you want more washed out tones like with vintage books.
Lmao that is complete nonsense. The only thing that is bad is focusing only on close range objects for prolonged time periods. That is why you should take brakes ond look outside the window at things far away.
Kobo
E-ink screens are far better on the eyes than regular ones. That's for sure
They're good, but don't buy any kindle. It's a pain to convert your epubs to azw3 or kxf using pajeetlibre.
i just use the kindle e-mail address. it werks.
Love my kobo libra, I use it to read books.
Just pulled the trigger on a discounted Onyxboox Nova Air. I'm excited to mess around with it when it arrives.
Hopefully I'll get some use out of the tablet features, but I mainly bought it for manga.
I bought one for my brother and it developed a black single pixel vertical line right in the middle, and he takes good care of his stuff.
Also I didn't really like the contrast, e-ink still feels like a prototype.
Oh, and also to fix it you have to send it back to onyx and that is just a pain, you have to ship it to shangai.
You can also order from their Amazon store and get normal Amazon return policy. There are also some other shops like E
ereader.store that can be used instead.
Main shops to avoid are Good-e-reader and the Russian sub company onyxboox.com.
I don't live in the US so my only option is shipping it back to onyx so they can replace the screen, I'd rather just buy a new model in the future.
ereader.store is a German company and Amazon has local branches in major countries.
>Good-e-reader
What's the deal with this store? I've seen them doing reviews a lot on yt
They've got a lot of business connections and creating reviews on YT is good advertisement for them. A casual viewer won't notice how barebones and ignorant their reviews are and order from their shop without realizing their ripoff pricess and bullshit cancellation policies.
They are a good indicator for what's getting released.
Kindle is so fricking possed on DRM I never got into it. Its a shame. If they would pull their heads out of their ass and let me read books from anywhere other than their ~~*storefront*~~ they might have a real winner.
most of the content on my kindle didn't come from their store.
You can sideload on the mobile and PC app, I don't see why you can't on the actual Kindle hardware.
Plus, they're starting to let you send .epub via their shitty e-mail thing.
You clearly never owned one. Everything you said is fricking stupid and wrong.
>Download books and load up on Calibre
>Transfer books from Calibre to Kindle
>Just works
It's really that easy. Something like jailbreaking your Kindle is for really power users and those who want to read PDFs. Which you shouldn't be doing on your Kindle anyway
Meant for
Lmao. Just plug a USB cable you can literally copy paste books converted from Calibre, I did that with my 10th gen and it's awesome
I jb'd my old ass Kindle 4nt and it's pretty comfy. Frick mobi and amazon, I only read epub now through KUAL and KOreader
If you read a lot, buying an e-reader is a no brainer. The reading experience is incredible compared to a phone or tablet.
Pretty good for reading books that are just plain text. Not good for anything formatted like a textbook (pictures to the side of paragraphs, graphs and charts. the layout gets dicey)
Try to get one for under $40; there's really nothing gained from anything more expensive, unless you have money/want a larger screen.
>police beat man in anerica
>africa is a cesspool
>guatemala is corrupt and ineffectual
Do people really read this stuff every day? Even worse… do companies think publishing it is a vital service or something?
Yes and yes, unfortunately.
>10th gen basic kindle for fiction novels
>basic model 64gb ipad for college textbooks and manga
Extremely comfy.
Why not just get a Note Air 2 for both? iPad and Kindle seem like the shittiest options to me.
the kindle was 5 bucks at goodwill
I also use the ipad for things in color, like comics.
Why not use a computer for that? I got an iPad to try out and I never used it since it was rather unpleasant to work with.
>Why not use a computer for that?
I like sitting back in a comfy chair to read stuff. It also doubles as a 2nd monitor for my laptop when away from home.
And it triples as a mirror.
Meme
It's shit and expensive
>already bought into the Kindle ecosystem (in terms of owning books on it and liking the progress-syncing feature, bookmarks and notes, etc.
Someone redpill me on non-Amazon Kindle alternatives based on that info. I generally hate Amazon as a company, both morally and in terms of how shit all non-AWS Amazon software is.
You actually buy ebooks? Why do you even own an e-reader?
I-I can stop whenever I want if the hardware allows me?
Just use Calibe. It works for more or less every single device out there.
You download a epup/mobi file, drag it into Calibre, press a single button to upload it to your device, and you are done.
Either you de-DRM all your Kindle books or you get an Android e-reader and install the Kindle app.
Get a Kobo.
Seconding this advice, I made the change myself and it was easy. Calibre will convert any of your kindle format books, and popular shit is available on the kobo store. But who am I kidding, just sign up for myanonamouse or something.
on my 300 ppi model it looks like someone painted the characters and my older lcd screens look terribly in comparison.
battery lasts weeks and it's single purpose device in airplane mode at all times.
vocabulary builder is also quiet nice.
they're great if you want to read actual books with readily available epubs
unfortunately i jumped into the machine-translated japanese/korean web novel garbage almost a decade ago and it's easier to read it on a phone rather than having to copy paste and make my own epubs for it (when i might drop it in a few chapters because it ended up being trash again)
Its not a meme if you like reading novels, its pretty decent for that purpose. Its sort of a meme for pdfs though.
When are you people going to accept that there's better models extremely well suited for pdf?
It's just the cheap shit that's useless.
E-readers are already overpriced, if you are gonna get one of those meme Chinkpads that run Android for like 500 bucks, might as well just get a cheap tablet for less than half.
But then you don't get the benefits of e-ink.
And the real choice are the $800 models. Those offer more display area than any LCD tablet with Android (being 13.3" at 4:3) while being significantly lighter.
E-ink is nice. But it's not THAT nice. For any serious work it's a nightmare to use with it's painfully slow refresh rate. And if you use a backlight it barely feels any different from an LCD screen.
Stop with your sour grapes, you clearly never worked with one.
The front light (which wasn't even an option on most 13.3" models) works completely differently from LCD backlight. On LCD you need to ramp up the backlight to somewhat make the screen viewable against other light sources, on a Max Lumi you just need to set a bit of front light when you have no other light sources.
The Boox Poke 3 is less than $200 and if all you want to do is read novels, it's IMO the best e-ink reader on the market by a long shot. I got the original Note a few years back when I returned to school and it was (and honestly still is) awesome. I got the Poke 3 for my girlfriend and she loves it, reads every day now.
The Poke 3 is probably better suited for reading pdf than a simple Kindle or Kobo Clara but it's still only 6".
Yes?
Do the math (hint: $a^2+b^2=c^2$). Even the pocket book has a diagonal of 8".
I did say if all you're doing is reading novels. I don't think screen size is that important in readers for just text because you can resize to whatever you want. Who cares if it's 2000 pages? It's not like a physical book that's then going to be 30cm thick.
for reading its nice. it's not going to make you magically read more though.
my friend got a dasung eink monitor and i'd use it to code if it had colors. that's only a couple years away from affordability.
How far are we from reasonably priced 27" e-ink monitors?
Until the patent runs out. Never.
So I really have to bite the bullet and spend 2k on a black and white screen?
I have a Kobo One, I like it but I always wonder how big the difference between this and the actual size of most doujinshi is
Tanks are 8 inches per page
Doujinshi are typically A5 format so a single page is roughly 10" in diameter and a double page 14".
Commercial manga will use B5 format for magazines, A5 format for detailed works like 4koma or eromanga and B6 format for most tankobon.
so does that mean my screen is too big or that it should be bigger?
Kobo Aura One is only 7.8". It can suffice if you only read story manga and don't care about losing the dual page display but overall it's too small.
13" is the only option where you can comfortably use double page all the time and can switch to single page for extra details.
there seems to be only 5 e-readers that are that big, and not many of them are avaible anymore
Boox currently has the Max Lumi 2 though you should still get the previous Max Lumi.
The other main 13" option is the Sony DPT. Sony themselves screwed up properly marketing them so they were always kind of hard to get. Nowadays they are sold under the Fujitsu Quaderno label. Quirklogic sells the same hardware with different software as the Papyr. There may also be more companies relabeling them depending on the location.
Beyond that you have the highly specialized Gvido and the Dasung and Boox Mira that are pure monitors.
The other companies haven't risked expanding to 13" so far.
is it worth getting a sony dpt?
It depends on your usage scenario.
Their strong point is that they are ridiculously light (368g for a 13" tablet) and that there's extremely little space between the device surface and the display.
The big drawback is that they only handle pdf.
The previous model also had an active stylus that needed recharging and used nibs up like crazy. The new gen 2 stuff uses Wacom EMR.
Can the previous model be hacked?
There are hacks to unlock the Android but it's still Android 5 which is practically useless nowadays.
Damn, alright. I guess I'll have to go without the sony branding.
Do they support .cbz?
DPT/Quaderno only supports pdf.
Quirklogic does support jpg, png, mobi and epub as well. Try asking their custmer support if they're willing to add cbz.
>DPT/Quaderno only supports pdf.
pain
gaygit shit sign
>phone screen hurts my yes
>buy e-book
>turn brightness up to max
>mfw
Why is there no decent ebook comparison website other than fricking Wikipedia? I'm looking for:
>USB content management
>PDF support
>fairly big screen (at least 7.5 inches)
>good contrast (E Ink Carta?)
I don't need/care about:
>backlight, Bluetooth/WiFi, headphone jack, SD card, touchscreen, stylus, etc.
Wikipedia is leading me towards Barnes & Noble Nook GlowLight Plus 7.8, Boyue Likebook Plus, tolino epos 2, Kobo Aura One. Anything I'm missing or should know about?
>Boyue Likebook Plus, Kobo Aura One
What year is that from?
The current Boyue 7.8 is the P78 (more specficially the Pro version) and before that it was the Mars.
For Kobo the 8" is the Sage which replaced the Forma. Problem is the reduced battery size.
B&N got ruined by Indians, Tolino is Kobo with worse software.
Other notable options are Boox Nova Air, Supernote A6X, Pocketbook Inkpad.
Depending on what pdf you want it's probably worth considering the 10" models
Boox Note Air 2, Supernote A5X, Boyue P10, Kobo Elipsa. They're around $400-$500 so not much more than the $250-$350 for a 7.8".
Like I said, I'm literally going by a Wikipedia spreadsheet, so I'm sure it's incomplete and out of date and any other website that would let me filter by features would be great. I'm thinking GSMarena for ereaders, though that's probably asking too much...
>Depending on what pdf you want it's probably worth considering the 10" models
I would prefer 10", but I wasn't seeing that many on this list and what do you mean "depending on what pdf you want"?
>flash koreader
QRD on the benefits?
>and what do you mean "depending on what pdf you want"?
What pdf do you want to read?
If it's scans/ebook versions of larger books then a 8" is often too small for proper reading. If it's just poems or smaller stuff then 8" will be fine.
You can't really go wrong with a larger model, they just cost more. And a 8" will fine in a bigger pocket while a 10" requires a bag and a 13" needs a bag capable of fitting A4 pages.
It's for Spanish fan translations of whatever shit my gf reads. I'm sure there's some simple PDF to EPUB (or whatever the format is) converter for Mac, which might make formatting better than straight up PDF, but since the source is always gonna be PDF, it has to be supported in case conversion for some reason doesn't work or isn't needed.
And yeah, like I said, ideally I want it as big as 10 inch, but I don't know where to look that would let me filter by features like USB management and PDF support.
Connecting as a USB drive and PDF support are almost universal. Only the Remarkable needs some special hoops for USB.
pdf to epub reflow is going to suck for most works.
You say that, but the top half of pic rel is marked as having no usb management support, and the bottom is "unknown". I will not buy something without knowing what it supports and what it does not, and so far I have no way to figure this shit out, other than digging through the specs and Karen reviews of each individual eReader, which I'm not gonna fricking do.
I think you can easily forget that list.
then give me another website/list AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I don't see your problem with looking at the specs.
the problem is that to look at specs i need a list of models to look up, you monkey Black person
What's your issue with
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>QRD on the benefits?
Much better support for PDFs, more customization options and better support for file formats CBZ are the main ones. The stock software isn't the best, but works just fine if all you want to do is sideload and read books on it
Thanks. I think my purchase is gonna be whatever can be flashed with this.
It's not flashed over something. Depending on the platform is installed as an additional software or as part of an alternative user interface.
Right. So I still have to figure out basic shit like whether the stock device will let me put PDFs on it via USB?
Anything other than the Remarkable will let you move files via USB and everything will try to display pdf files.
Only have experience with installing it on Kobo devices, but pretty much all of them support it and it's easy to install and wipe if it's not for you. Visit the Kobo Mobileread forums for detailed guides on how to do it, it takes 10 - 20 mins tops to get it up and running.
Kindle can be a bit iffy, since it may not be doable on newer firmware iirc
Kobo sage for 8 and elipsa for 10.5. Make sure to flash koreader. Boox have wonky software support and no customer support or warranty. Real pain in the ass to deal with that company.
Amazon is a Black person tier company.
>Boox have wonky software support and no customer support or warranty.
That's not entirely true. It could be better but it exists.
don't lie to me. i, too, saw that one angry pajeet review on amazon
If you want a trustworthy reviewer, check out Voja
https://www.youtube.com/c/MyDeepGuide/videos
I think this video covers the software support in comparison with other companies:
Top tier reddit consumer content lmao. Imagine taking notes on such a piece of shit device when you can just use a laptop. Those are the kind of devices people who watch unbox therapy buy.
>Why is there no decent ebook comparison website other than fricking Wikipedia?
Niche product + commercial search engines prioritizing sales pages
Right, but it amazes me that even the sales pages are so normie-tier that they have literally no specs to filter by. Even shit you'd think normies cared about, like backlight. I can shop for printers, projectors, phones, even vacuum cleaners by specific characteristics, but when it comes to eReaders the only choice I get is "wot colour u wnt m8??
Because filtering by specs doesn't really work. Front lights for instance are standard, the displays are identical. It's more about interface and user experience.
And since there's only half a dozen relevant manufacturers with a small number of available models, you can just make a short list and check out more in depth reviews. Just avoid Good-e-reader since their reviews are bogus.
Upvoted!
Black person
The worst is searching for something like "Best ereader" which yields a randomly ordered list of 5-10 Kindle and Kobo models.
That's the same when searching for "best <anything>"
do we have color eink now? I want to buy/diy a picture frame which can display on my photos randomly
yeah it has been around for a while but still expensive and colors are a bit meh
Do you mind signing a NDA?
https://shopkits.eink.com/product-category/e-ink-display-kit/atelier/
thanks, but at that price I will buy some shitty display and a diesel generator to power it
You can get Kaleido instead of ACEP but the colors are going to be a lot more limited and resolution reduced.
https://shopkits.eink.com/product/7-8-epaper-display-sc1452-gha%e3%80%90display-module-with-front-light-and-touch-function%e3%80%91/
ACEP is based on CMYK particles while Kaleido is just the usual B&W particles with a RGB filter.
eINK had color since 2010.
Its just that the color is meh.
See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpMfV-OfrFw
A more recent example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv2Lv6LCVso (skip until you see the images on the price markers)
I think this one is more representative of the whole lineup. Three color labels aren't really the best suited for photos.
Give it 5 more years before it becomes viable. Have been a lot of progress in the last few years, but not enough to make it something you'd want to buy
I think I'm going to take the plunge once 10" or 13" get released.
There's a few 10 inch ones that exist right now, but they leave a lot to be desired
The Reinkstone R1 for all intends and purposes does not exist. It will most likely never see the light of day.
The DES technology itself isn't as mature as E ink and Reinkstone as a company is overburdened at best and shady at worst.
I have a lot more confidence that E ink will finally release larger panels with Kaleido 3 or the improved ACEP and that established OEM will use them for their releases.
Have a Libra 2. Fantastic for reading fiction, but I prefer to read manga and comics on my laptop with HoneyView still.
Front lit Eink is probably better for your eyes at night, and reading books or manga outside in the daytime on an LCD or OLED is downright moronic where Eink is like regular paper.
My Aura HD died after 8-9 years, screen still good but wouldn't charge. Ereaders may be kinda expensive just from screen licensing, but at least they last for ages.
Libra 2 is really good IMO. Books are great, I convert to kepup for slightly better page numbering and such. Manga is great as well - you can convert entire series into a single cbz with Kindle Comic Converter and so far my Libra hasn't crashed or hung more than usual reading a single multi-gig sized file.
Only issue is PDF files where you frequently have to pinch zoom, you should probably get a large Android based reader for those.
My onyx boox note air 2 has battery swelling and I'm putting off sending it back. Apparently that's a known issue I didn't see in my research. That's why the screens break, I only noticed when I was taking notes and the device was rocking under my hand. Chinked again, but it's still unfortunately the best eink tablet out there
>my onyx boox nova air just shipped
Uhhhhh not sure how to feel about this.
They'll replace it, and if it swells it'll happen before the warranty is up. Not good, but I believe it was just the boox note air with my issue
my e-ink reader is probably as old as the zoomers in this thread
I had a 3rd gen kindle, with the physical keyboard n shit, and it sadly bit the dust after 10 years. Opening myself up to the world of book "piracy" was an amazing step forward in life. Replaced it with a kobo libra h20, which is better in every way except for not having a physical keyboard
Anyway thanks for reading my blog
I love my Paperwhite. It stays charged forever, can be side loaded without mods, has a backlight that's really friendly with pre bedtime reading, and my favorite part is that opendyslexic is preloaded in the fonts. I'm not dyslexic, but that font has such good readability and I can feel how my eyes are less fatigued after long reading sessions.
It pains the soul that I can't get an eink display in normal panel sizes.
I want to swap out the display on my IT admin laptop. I just use it for command line and file transfer shit.
e-ink a besto
Better than physical manga
Which boox is that, how do you like it, and what else do you use it for?
Just ordered one, I'm interested in the possibilities.
Blue is a Note Air. Name on the bottom means it's a Note Air 2.
10 inches looks great for double page manga reading, doesn't look as comfy as reading on an 8 inch screen
I started with a cheap ass kindle. Good hardware. Shit software. Ended up getting expensive color model.
My eyes thank me.
I didn’t read this thread but I looked at the pictures and I guess only weeb homosexuals use these.
Not true at all. Reading A Song of Ice and Fire and loaded up some titles from Project Gutenberg on mine. Keeps me comfy when soaking up vitamin D.
As far as my experience goes (old Kindle DX), it only refreshes/flashes like that every X amount of page turns (don't remember if it was around 20 or so).
You can think of it as the black or blank pages between the cover page, foreword and preface or chapters of a physical book.
I don't care unless it's 13 or 15.6"
There's no 15.6" readers or panels. 13.3" is the only thing you'll get.
do chinks not like money?
There's a lot of potential in a laptop with week-long battery life
The panels are made by one company since they own the patent, they are milking it for all its worth and aren't in a rush to make a ton of panel sizes.
Patents don't prevent others from producing stuff and they expire after two decades. E ink produces what the OEM market demands and there's little interest in 15" panels. Even the 10" and 13" took a long time to catch on.
They make bigger panels for signage and there's the 25" monitors.
You don't get a week of battery life just by using E ink. The key is that E ink only needs power to change the image so as long as you look at the same content for longer periods such as reading a page. Laptops typically don't do that.
People have constructed 13" E ink laptops but they are hobby products.
If there was an e-ink laptop, it would be unusable for anything except reading text, and the benefits the technology has leading to long battery life would not exist on a laptop
Should I never connect my kindle to WiFi? I have the ad model.
Think doing that just blocks future updates and stops the ads from changing to something else. If you really want, you can contact Amazon support and ask them nicely to remove the ads, apparently that works 90% of the time
I'm a professional musician and I'd like to read sheet music with some sort of display since I'm converting my sheet music to digital. What is the best reader for this? Should I just use a vertical monitor? or should I use an e-ink display? huge e-ink displays are very expensive. What do people recommend? Are there any people on here who use a display to read sheet music?
Padmu or Gvido are made for that purpose, they have a double screen option for full view. Otherwise the Boox Max is your main option since most other devices are too small for sheet.
You'll also want to get somoe sort of bluetooth page turner.
thanks so much! again though, would you recommend a vertical monitor? which is a massive and cheap solution, or would you always recommend e-ink because of portability and ease of turning the page?
You'll have to find those answers for yourself. It depends on what instrument you play, how much money you have, how often you travel and whether you have other uses for such a reader.
An option would be to get the single Padmu and when you're satisfied get a second one to pair them.
Or you try to work with your existing monitor to see how big the shortcomings in terms of portability and visibility are.
Page turners are going to work with any display solution that accepts bluetooth keyboard inputs.
Boox specifically has a Boox Pagebox Lumi Digital Music Score, plus a bluetooth foot pedal to change pages for it.
>shit thread gets necro bumped on an hourly basis by a small group of people
not surprised
This. They always try to make the thread last for days and are proud of doing it
Been using 2gen paperwhite daily for almost 10 years now and still just werks. If you want to do some reading while travelling it is irreplaceable. Battery will last you about a month so you dont need to worry about charging, you can read outside as there is no glare and the screen isnt a strain on the eyes like your phone
>should i stick to my phone and tablet
How could you even do this in the first place?
I hate the way that those screens refresh and flash black every minute. Is there an E-Ink screen in 2022 that doesn't do that crap?
You get used to it fairly quickly. You can in theory turn off full refreshes but end up with staining.
Kobo forma has a progressive scan setting I think. It's slow as it's also got a pretty high density screen. The flicker on refresh in no bother at all, it's not like it's and LCD/oled flickering light.
On Kobo devices you can choose when to have it fresh, such as every chapter. Naturally it will always refresh if there's an image on the screen or you mess with any of the settings
Hey, (You).
Is there a truly open one that does not require soldering? I already have a "jailbroken" Kindle Paperwhite (7th generation, I believe) but if there is an open alternative I'd like to replace it.
Lrn 2 solder.
Not enough money for the equipment and the device.
You can get a fine soldering iron for 40 dollars new.
Once you are able to repair your own stuff you will be able to avoid a lot of expenses. It is an investment for the future.
I can not overstate how valuable soldering is.
I agree. I see it as an investment and something that I'd enjoy doing, but what about the fumes? Last I checked the real expense was one of those fume hoods or whatever they're called. Can't enjoy what you're doing if you've been lead-poisoned.
Just put a fan behind you.
No way.
These are 20 dollars bro. They are industrial half masks.
>soldering
>fumes
https://www.pine64.org/pinenote/
Seems to be much more than what I need, but still interesting.
>that price tag
Maybe next year when I have the money, assuming the software is not experimental by that time.
Thank you.
There's a fully working android os you could use and customize, but if you want loonix you'll have to work on it yourself for now
great but only get an e-ink reader if you already have a reading habit
also bigger is better
you want something closer to an ipad than an iphone
Was and am still a big fan of e-ink but after using an ipad to get my reading and note taking done its just not something id go back to.
I do literally everything on my ipad these days BUT reading. My office desk sits exactly below a square led light, so i get all the glare regardless of angle. So i have to turn the ipads brightness higher killing the battery faster.
Took the kindle pill, sometimes i leave my ipad at home and spend the rest of the day on the kindle, mostly on down times.
Thank you for reading my blog.
Why get something like a Note Air 2 or Supernote A5X?
iPad always strikes me as a poor attempt to cover everything. 4:3 just isn't useful for videos and the like.
i would've, but i edit videos on the ipad. But, 4:3 is an actually good format for me, as all i ever watch is TNG and DS9
if you read a lot yes. For mangas i still do phone because i like colors
Korean comics are called webtoons and not manga.
yea those. Those are the best. Japanese still make the best sex mangas tho
Hisense seems to make a color eink phone.
>7th june
do people actually talk like this?
Just how awful is the PDF experience on one of the cheaper e-readers, like a kobo sage or elipsa? The videos I see just don't seem THAT bad outside of zooming + panning a page. As long as there's no zooming it's an acceptable experience?
Generally it's pretty tolerable outside of that.
If a PDF is made from scans of a book then it may load more slowly (or if it's a really fricking bad scan then it might crash your ereader when you try to read it), but something that's an actual text layer loads just fine, aside from the fixed screen size.
With the stock reader software, not great. With Koreader, much better
Any ~$200 readers to read outside that i can install tachiyomi on?
Boyue P6 and P78
Boox Poke
I rarely use my boox for manga, but here's a sample. the Boox NovaAirC is outstanding for reading nonfiction books with lots of color charts and graphs. There's nothing better at the moment.
I'm a college student and am looking for an E-Ink to replace all the books I lug, as well as for taking notes. Is the Boox Air 2 my best choice? The Remarkable 2 seems like a PoS sadly, and none of the other products out there seem as good for writing.
Supernote A5X is an option.
Maybe Quirklogic Papyr or Fujitsu Quaderno.
Seems like one of the best options. Check the My Deep Guide channel on Youtube, has a comparision video on some of the 10 inch devices