Because the government is everywhere? There were no forest rangers before, no property laws in the forest, caves weren't declared places of cultural interests and there were no rural tourists
Hurr durr what a moronic argument. Homeless people get arrested for sleeping outside all the time. You can hardly sue them out of none existing money or tear down their non existing cabins. They are nomads not hermits.
A hermit needs a stable place in which he can be self-sufficient and the government can and will tear that place down.
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There are entire villages of homeless people under bridges in the city where I was born. The police have come and torn them down, and they just put them back up a month later. They were there when I was a child and they are still there now. This is in central England, by the way.
Maybe you'll meet some people over the years, but it's not like that never happened to hermits before. Sometimes a hunter or shepard might've stumbled upon your tent, or seeked to hide from the rain in your cave.
Government isn't going to tax your tent or hut in the bush and rangers aren't known for kicking out hobos. If you aren't an hazard, people will likely leave you alone.
Yeah except from government officials and private landownership literally everywhere. A friend of mine bought a shack at the very end of a small town and went through judicial hell to be allowed to live there because there are a million laws against living 50 centrimetres north of electric lines and sewers and whatnot.
A hermit has a home. You are talking about a homeless person who is dependent on gibs. Also try that during winter. You will just freeze to death
4 years ago
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they are the same thing anon
4 years ago
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No it's not. None would open a thread saying "can you be a homeless person nowadays?????" because it's obvious that you can. A hermit is something else, it must have a proper place to stay and resources to eat in the wilderness. You see in OP's painting that some hermits even had vegetable patches to cultivate for self-sustainment. That's practically impossible nowadays as the state owns all the land.
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>thinks the US is the whole world
top kek, Pro-tip: russia, some places don't even have roads or paths to get there >then how will you get there
by walking across a frickload of thick forest, there are miles and miles of nothing but forest in russia, no the law enforcement won't get there at all >b-but you'll die during the winter
not if you build a proper shelter during the summer time
A million forest rangers stalk every centimetre even in the most remote forests. They are all too willing to hand your ass over to the officials who will in turn sue the shit out of you for building a wooden shack in bumfrick nowhere.
It depends entirely on where you live you stupid fat Amerimutts. I live at the Austrian- Bavarian border: Thousands of hectars of mountainous no man's land. Each centimetre is stalked by forest rangers and I even know half the guys who do it.
He isn't wrong to think that if spotted rangers will do everything in their power to get your squatting ass out of the forest. But they're not likely to spot you.
Nope. Not in Canada anyways and I’m guessing it’s the same for much of the USA where population in sparse. There are so few forest rangers and conservation officers (woods cops) and so much crown land (Canadian term for public land) that it would be near impossible for them to police it at that level. As long as you aren’t poaching or illegally logging, they don’t care.
If it was me, I'd choose the baste forests of russia, off course, beware of the bears, tigers? and killer cold, for everything you should have plenty of everything.
Yes, I know a couple.
They're not quite as strict as the desert hermits, but still follow quite an ascetic lifestyle as separate as possible from society.
It is harder to be a hermit in these days due to government overreach and overpopulation, but still possible.
Share with me the super cool stuff, weird people you met, allucinations, religious/trippy experiences, conclussions you came to, obstacles you managed to surpass, times you failed, everything
It's not particularly cool. It definitely gives you a deeper understanding of the underlying mechanisms of life and nature. You have a lot of time to think of how the world actually works.
Despite periods of near starvation, I didn't have any religious experiences. The stars at night are beautiful and the forests are scary, but I've never felt the presence of anything divine or mystical.
Long story short, I did the into the wild thing. The scariest moment was getting lost in some godforsaken mountain range for days. The fear of dying really makes you reevaluate certain things, in a very quick way.
In the end, I got bored. I'm creator, and I feel I need inputs. The internet is more interesting than nature will ever be. I still go camping sometimes, though.
I bought massive amounts of flour or very thick bread at the nearest village and survived on that and berries, mainly. Occasional yoghurts and the like. Overall, I spent about 30 euros a month. Fishing and hunting are not viable in Europe as a method of sustenance.
>In the end, I got bored. I'm creator, and I feel I need inputs. The internet is more interesting than nature will ever be. I still go camping sometimes, though.
funny fricking conclussion, would have never guessed
The human filth keeps spreadng everywhere. Humans can't leave you alone. They just want to frick everything up. It is not the israelite who is the problem. It is not the black nor the white. It is not the Oriental man. It is the common man. It is humanity who is the problem.
Why wouldn't it be? There's nothing stopping you.
Because the government is everywhere? There were no forest rangers before, no property laws in the forest, caves weren't declared places of cultural interests and there were no rural tourists
Oh yeah because the government does a great job stopping homeless people from sleeping all over the place.
Hurr durr what a moronic argument. Homeless people get arrested for sleeping outside all the time. You can hardly sue them out of none existing money or tear down their non existing cabins. They are nomads not hermits.
A hermit needs a stable place in which he can be self-sufficient and the government can and will tear that place down.
There are entire villages of homeless people under bridges in the city where I was born. The police have come and torn them down, and they just put them back up a month later. They were there when I was a child and they are still there now. This is in central England, by the way.
Homeless people are completely reliant on societies generosity for survival. They aren’t exactly hermits.
Maybe you'll meet some people over the years, but it's not like that never happened to hermits before. Sometimes a hunter or shepard might've stumbled upon your tent, or seeked to hide from the rain in your cave.
Government isn't going to tax your tent or hut in the bush and rangers aren't known for kicking out hobos. If you aren't an hazard, people will likely leave you alone.
literally everything you said was wrong.
go to school before you think about doing anything alone.
Yeah except from government officials and private landownership literally everywhere. A friend of mine bought a shack at the very end of a small town and went through judicial hell to be allowed to live there because there are a million laws against living 50 centrimetres north of electric lines and sewers and whatnot.
>be hermit
>have basically no possessions
>sleep under a bridge
>police come and kick you out
>walk to next village, sleep under a different bridge
A hermit has a home. You are talking about a homeless person who is dependent on gibs. Also try that during winter. You will just freeze to death
they are the same thing anon
No it's not. None would open a thread saying "can you be a homeless person nowadays?????" because it's obvious that you can. A hermit is something else, it must have a proper place to stay and resources to eat in the wilderness. You see in OP's painting that some hermits even had vegetable patches to cultivate for self-sustainment. That's practically impossible nowadays as the state owns all the land.
>thinks the US is the whole world
top kek, Pro-tip: russia, some places don't even have roads or paths to get there
>then how will you get there
by walking across a frickload of thick forest, there are miles and miles of nothing but forest in russia, no the law enforcement won't get there at all
>b-but you'll die during the winter
not if you build a proper shelter during the summer time
that's my bridge
GTFO
most people all ready do
oof
Some people can be dead for years before people notice and that happens in the middle of cities.
Why wouldn't you be able to isolate yourself in the woods or mountains?
You can, it's much easier too.
A million forest rangers stalk every centimetre even in the most remote forests. They are all too willing to hand your ass over to the officials who will in turn sue the shit out of you for building a wooden shack in bumfrick nowhere.
Not in Alaska
Who would be hermit in Alaska? That's suicidal.
Who would Hermit in general? Sounds like suicide to me.
People that don't like people. Usually have some sort of anxiety disorder and general unsociability.
Being antisocial is no excuse to go LARP as a druid in the forest,
If they're going into the woods to LARP as a druid I think they're beyond caring what you think justifies it.
christians did it too
Not the point anon.
fair enough, but 2bh, I'd assumed christianism was the driving cause of OP's post
it's not a druid tradition.
https://www.hermitary.com/articles/proenneke.html
>A million forest rangers stalk every centimetre even in the most remote forests.
Yeah here's the thing, they're not.
It depends entirely on where you live you stupid fat Amerimutts. I live at the Austrian- Bavarian border: Thousands of hectars of mountainous no man's land. Each centimetre is stalked by forest rangers and I even know half the guys who do it.
stop being European
I know a rather large plot of woods in the middle of a major metro area and the homeless dude who's ran that patch for years that would say otherwise
Stop being such a paranoid schizo
He isn't wrong to think that if spotted rangers will do everything in their power to get your squatting ass out of the forest. But they're not likely to spot you.
Nope. Not in Canada anyways and I’m guessing it’s the same for much of the USA where population in sparse. There are so few forest rangers and conservation officers (woods cops) and so much crown land (Canadian term for public land) that it would be near impossible for them to police it at that level. As long as you aren’t poaching or illegally logging, they don’t care.
Never been easier.
If it was me, I'd choose the baste forests of russia, off course, beware of the bears, tigers? and killer cold, for everything you should have plenty of everything.
russia is so big
plenty of empty land there
In the 3rd world yeah. Not really in the 1st
Yes, I know a couple.
They're not quite as strict as the desert hermits, but still follow quite an ascetic lifestyle as separate as possible from society.
It is harder to be a hermit in these days due to government overreach and overpopulation, but still possible.
I’ve done it AMA
How long did you do it for and where? what's your longest period of total isolation?
Around a year total, Spain. Max. period without interaction was around three months.
Was it one of those tiny abandoned villages?
>Spain
What did you do for food? In burberland hunting seems easy but in Europe wouldn't you have caught more shit?
Frick, I was thinking of doing it in Andalusia. Why did you leave exactly?
Share with me the super cool stuff, weird people you met, allucinations, religious/trippy experiences, conclussions you came to, obstacles you managed to surpass, times you failed, everything
It's not particularly cool. It definitely gives you a deeper understanding of the underlying mechanisms of life and nature. You have a lot of time to think of how the world actually works.
Despite periods of near starvation, I didn't have any religious experiences. The stars at night are beautiful and the forests are scary, but I've never felt the presence of anything divine or mystical.
Long story short, I did the into the wild thing. The scariest moment was getting lost in some godforsaken mountain range for days. The fear of dying really makes you reevaluate certain things, in a very quick way.
In the end, I got bored. I'm creator, and I feel I need inputs. The internet is more interesting than nature will ever be. I still go camping sometimes, though.
No, it was the mountain in Majorca. I won't mention the exact area, but it was beautiful.
I bought massive amounts of flour or very thick bread at the nearest village and survived on that and berries, mainly. Occasional yoghurts and the like. Overall, I spent about 30 euros a month. Fishing and hunting are not viable in Europe as a method of sustenance.
>it was the mountain in Majorca.
Neat. You're not German are you?
Were you camping or did you make use of abandoned buildings?
mostly bivouac. It very rarely rains in that area.
I spent a long time meditating.
One day I stopped giving a frick tbh. Andalucia is nice.
>In the end, I got bored. I'm creator, and I feel I need inputs. The internet is more interesting than nature will ever be. I still go camping sometimes, though.
funny fricking conclussion, would have never guessed
where? How did you manage to eat? Did you have a basement? Were you praying and all the stuff?
i live in Canada. if i never wanted to see another person for the rest of my life, i'd be able to do it
There's some southern Alaskan islands that aren't too fricking freezing that you could probably pull off
Very possible.
very easy too if you have a little survivalist experience. You don't even have to go anywhere crazy like Alaska.
The human filth keeps spreadng everywhere. Humans can't leave you alone. They just want to frick everything up. It is not the israelite who is the problem. It is not the black nor the white. It is not the Oriental man. It is the common man. It is humanity who is the problem.