Is it true that southern states like Mississippi have attempted, and still today, are attempting to stifle black voters with restrictions and prevent them from influencing the state?
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>have attempted
Yes
>and still today
No, it's closer to the other way around now
Not too familiar with Mississippi in particular but the GOP definitely regularly pulls shit to make sure as few people (particularly minorities) vote as possible.
>you have to prove that you are who you say you are
Wow so oppressive
Ever lived in Bumfrick, Mississippi and tried to go to a DMV?
let me guess, it's full of black people?
It's an hour away. I wouldn't have a problem with requiring ID to vote if the government would just send them to you for free. No one should have to jump through all those hoops just to vote. It's harder to vote than it is to buy a gun.
so what, do you live in the national forest? because I'm pretty sure every county on average has a license bureau
>I'm pretty sure every county on average has a license bureau
lmao. come visit the magnolia state, friend.
Still that's not a very good argument when usually the argument against voter ID is coming form representatives of urban blacks who are a stone's throw away from a DMV
>people that have no problem getting drivers license and other government cards need to be protected from the evil racism of having an ID to prove you are actually who you say you are when it comes time to be involved in the political decision making process be it electing someone to the presidency or a state office
truly we will solve racism by lowering societies expections of those with certain ethnicity derived physical traits
Literally you can use an electric bill. Like you need an ID to have a job, how do you function without one?
maybe they shoudlnt hire black workers
Yes though the techniques in the modern day are much more indirect like algorithm designed gerrymandering. There's also some general frickery like limiting voting locations in blacker and poorer areas and trying to limit early voting to punish the proles and their shit hourly jobs. Overall the south is a deeply miserable, poor, sweaty place. Food is good though.
t. Mainer and yes we are full
>lives in extremely white state
>loves Black folk
Every single time
its the same with places like Minnesota, Wisconsin to an extent
You are the one projecting onto him.
Hes hand wringing over denying Black folk their votes you dumb ape
Because denying votes from various demographics is an issue and he didn't focus on the blacks solely since many of the voting changes also impact middle and lower class whites.
He deliberately singled out blacks you moron
I'm that Anon and I am extremely ambivalent to the Black because they don't exist in large numbers here, I mostly just find the South's draconian nature and neurotic love/hate obsession with blacks really off-putting. Both of your posts show how reflexive and stimulus-response your thinking is whenever you encounter the world black.
>neurotic love/hate obsession with blacks really off-putting.
It's not neutoric. Some southerners hate blacks, some are ambivalent, and some love them.
>reflexive and stimulus-response your thinking is whenever you encounter the world black.
You were bemoaning poors and blacks (specifically) facing voter discrimination
spoiler, not everyone down there agrees on the civil war either. some think it was a heroic struggle against Northern tyranny, others think they fought for the greed of a few richgays and it was all a waste.
>Food is good though
the long growing seasons means you can grow a lot more stuff than you could in, like, Michigan so the diet is more varied and interesting
>Average southern diet is 40% hogfat, 30% cornmeal, 15% refined sugar, 10% beer, 5% shrimp and catfish
>varied, interesting
It's not a coincidence that southerners are the fattest and most diabetic. Throw in a pack a day, too. You'd think dixiechimps would be clamoring for state healthcare since so many are going to die in debt.
if you take out the majority of the cornmeal and switch from refined sugar to natural sugar, thats pretty healthy.
eastern or west PA? I live near the border in NE Ohio
the East. the food is generally a mix of Pennsylvania Dutch culinary traditions and whatever was brought over by Ellis Islanders.
Ah so farther away. I have yet to meet another anon from my area
Tionesta checking in
Unless Louisiana because of all the French and Spanish influence on the food.
Yes Louisiana has some cool food but I can't say Tennessee does.
I gotta say, the idea that the diet in Mississippi is more varied than the diet in Michigan because the growing season is longer has got to be the most moronic frick-brain thing I'm going to read on IQfy today.
Like, the list of subjects you would have to be blow-your-obese-brains-out stupid about to think this might be the case is just staggering.
Literally any amount of either knowing the first fricking thing or realizing that you don't know the first fricking thing would have made it impossible to express such a thought.
He's not wrong that you can't very well grow a watermelon in Michigan when there's 7 months of winter.
Were you in the running (lol) for fattest dumbest frick in this thread and that other obese autismotard bumped you or something?
There are many varieties bred for shorter summers. I'm in Canada and have successfully grown watermelons in several summers (don't do them every year). You need a sunny place, and a fairly big plot as they spread out like pumpkins.
They are usually not as big, and you may not get as much total yield, but they are certainly sweet and decent otherwise. It's not really done on commercial scales though.
>Overall the south is a deeply miserable, poor, sweaty place
it's only somewhat livable in November-March. even then you're never free from violent thunderstorms or tornados while they are rare up north that time of year.
Beware of the wildlife too, there are many nasty parasites and insects/reptiles etc that don't exist in colder climates. Ever turned over a rotten log in Wisconsin and there were scorpions under there? Me neither.
Don't walk barefoot on grass in the Deep South unless you're suicidal.
I do. Dixie blood makes me immune to all natural venoms. Only real worry is hookworm, or TB if you visit Marion.
my dad lived in Florida as a kid, my grandmother was strict that he had to wear shoes while walking on grass at all times. but they weren't natives of the South they moved there from Iowa.
>my dad lived in Florida as a kid, my grandmother was strict that he had to wear shoes while walking on grass at all times. but they weren't natives of the South
Unless you happen to be a Cherokee or Choctaw you're not a native of the South you're only a few centuries removed from living in Scotland or something.
Most Southern whites are descended from colonial era settlers, that's about 300-400 years which is small on the evolutionary scale but enough time to have evolved some adaption to the environment of the place. Probably most people who lacked resistance to parasites died early on. It might have been tougher for early settlers who were evolved for the damp cool British Isles.
must have been. the South is a poor region historically many people couldn't even afford shoes until the 1960s or so and would have gone barefoot much of the time. particularly children really wouldn't have worn shoes except maybe one pair they kept for church.
there are many Union soldiers' letters and diaries from the Civil War talking about what a squalid, impoverished hellscape the South was
>ravage the country
>hey guys look at what a shithole this place is!
>Overall the south is a deeply miserable, poor, sweaty place
>yfw a Texan pretends he's not part of the South near me
the eastern third is part of the South as well as the only region to be settled during the Civil War. the rest is Midwest or Southwest.
You are not full and I will be there
Brooklyn, Bentonia, Clarksdale (BBC), the Blues.
the Alabama state constitution which no Federal judge respects anymore was recently modified to re-create de-facto school segregation
>recently modified to re-create de-facto school segregation
Ain't that like putting a hat on a hat?Especially when school boards all-over the USA already do that in various ways?
Yuh they needs to have they driving license and shit to confirm they be who they say they be when voting but that's racist ya'll
You need an Id, not a driver's license.
I live in Pennsylvania, I'm sure the food is more varied here because of all the influence from European immigrants over time. The South is mostly just the same Anglo-Irish stock since colonial times and there was never much immigration there.
Yes, we give as many of them felonies as possible so they'll never vote again.
love how all the good ol' boys saw the cats off their F250s because frick the guvernment
Huh?
The South is a fricking disaster. They lost a perfectly fair political contest because they thought human beings should continue to be considered property. So they decided to fight a war about it.
Then they lost the war, so they coped with that by establishing a de-facto apartheid system to keep the dumb buttholes who had recently been literally slaves from benefiting from anything.
Then that system was abolished by a perfectly reasonable political process, so they decided to passive-aggressively mistreat the wretched local victim group to get even.
While all this was going on, they neglected their own education, health and infrastructure - white people in the South are generally dumb, poor, fat, religious and sick, and their states are unable to support themselves without federal intervention.
The South is basically the dumb animals that guy from Planet of the Apes warned about - they will make a desert out of their home and yours. They appear to be dedicated to shitting on themselves in order to 'prove' something about the rest of the nation.
Much of the disaster of the South is due to the dysfunctional and destructive African population. Remove that element and the South would more closely resemble other “better” regions of the US.
Still wouldn't make the climate any more bearable from March to September. When it's 95F and 150% humidity you just don't want to do anything.
Cope. White southerners will always be worse than any other white.
I seriously don't understand how requiring proof of identity from all voters is in any way racist. If anything that assertion itself is racist as it implies that minority groups are less capable of producing identification.
Leftism is a mental disorder
My right to vote is granted by the Constitution and can't be blocked by some dumb hicks somewhere who think that the nanny state should make everyone carry a magic card that supersedes it.
Every conservative is a dumb piece of shit.
Taken care of by the Supreme Court in Minor vs Happersett 147 years ago where they found that the right to vote was not an absolute, and the Constitution granted the states the authority to set up their voting systems however they pleased.
You have to read all the way to the bottom of the wikilaw article, fat kid. There's always going to be someone around who has and you are going to sound like a hilarious dunning-kruger moron.
>require drivers license to vote
>close DMVs in black belt
>elections are close, so 1% of voters staying home could easily shift it
>no evidence of any voter fraud in existing system
A lot of Republican (non Southern) states don't give a shit about ID. Only the ones that have to make obstacles for voters because they are scared of minority and poor voting blocs.
because it belies that people should obey the law, which I can't go into too far without getting fricked over by the jannies
Its literally just because it would affect blacks in a massively disproportionate way, since so many exist on the margins of the system, and will go decades without ever having an ID, credit card, or bank account
if you don't contribute anything useful to the system or put tax money into it you probably shouldn't get a say in it
>muh equality of outcome
if you are black and within the system you can vote
if you are white with no ID you can't vote
i don't see a problem
You literally cannot buy alcohol without an ID and I'm fairly certain most poor people don't just cook up their own moonshine to become alcoholics
>I'm fairly certain most poor people don't just cook up their own
They steal it. Or the liquor stores in the hood can't be bothered to card people, and potentially lose out on business
>be too poor for a loicense
>can't vote now
get a free national id system and then we will talk
In alabama, hilariously, the cheapest ID is a conceal carry weapon permit for 20$, followed by a state ID for 36.25$
How do you even carry out an election without the voter presenting an ID card? What stops a political party from packing a bus full of voters and to carry them from one ballot station to another? How would something like this even come to light?
voters are registered in their local precinct and election volunteers check their names against a list, then cross it out once you vote. The state then verifies vote totals in voters in the event of a recount or accusations of shenanigans. Its an archaic system but it mostly works.
>it mostly works.
it's one of the worst election systems in the west
i didn't say it was good. its inefficient and prone to undemocratic manipulation by state legislatures. but outright fraud or failure to count votes that are actually cast is incredibly rare and usually gets caught.
Yeah it's true
Mississippi is the blackest state in the Union. It's capital Jackson, Mississippi has a black population of over 80-fricking-percent. If blacks are too fricking stupid to take advantage of their demographic edge to get political concessions for their community (something Hispanics do in the Southwest, israelites do in New York, and Asians do in Hawaii all the time) they deserve to get taken advantage of by Republicans.
Their too busy killing each other in Jackson for that.
yeh but if you look at county level election maps the black majority counties in the South are like a strip of blue surrounded by red counties where all the white people live
I'm in Texas and the way it works locally is that relatively affluent, mostly white, older and conservative Republican class of people who also own property (including property developers, landlords etc.) who live in a large gated community use a mix of gerrymandering, superior organization and control of resources to monopolize the political system. So, an example of this is that they have a well-staffed polling place plopped right in the center of their own gated community every time there's an election, while the rest of the area is under-resourced, and they turn out in huge numbers to always vote for every local dog catcher.
So... they win by default. They just play the game really well, is all. Most people don't vote or even know when there are elections other than big ones like the presidential year. But people that would vote for more lefty candidates by and large aren't gonna show up in May to vote in a city council election, and the people who've run the place forever know that.
Pic: One of these developers who went to prison in 80s for moonlighting as a drug trafficker
Jackson has elected pretty left-wing mayors. Look up Chokwe Lumumba and his father (same name) who was also mayor.
>black society has no resources and runs less efficiently than white society
so what, are whites supposed to step in and run black districts too? I wonder how blacks would feel about that
I don't know how to answer your question but the mayor is a black Republican who wins his gerrymandered black district easily (because they'll vote for him because he's black), so the Republicans are smart but pretty cynical in how they operate.
I mean black republicans are pretty based so I don't see how it's a conspiracy that blacks are voting for actually informed black people
He's just a puppet for landlords and property developers. These local elections are also "non-partisan," but because the Republicans have superior organization, they run their own people and vote as a bloc -- and their candidates are well-funded (from property developers / real-estate lobbies and oil & gas) who can write each candidate a check for $20,000-$30,000 to run a local campaign which is like chicken feed for their donors. Money rules politics in America.
>he's a puppet for the only real financial wing of black civilization
makes sense why he'd be a republican then, huh? maybe if blacks invested in businesses he could be beholden to the barber shop lobby
>makes sense why he'd be a republican then, huh?
Pretty much yeah. The Republican Party here is really a political organization of property developers and real estate, and oil and gas, like I said. It's not a "people's party" but one representing particular sectors of business.
Right, and if blacks actually had businesses they could get more distinct representation than the "we collect welfare checks from blacks through their rent" lobby
Nah, but keeping the broke people from voting probably doesn't help them.
how can poor blacks not vote?
I spent 4 or so days in Mississippi on a road trip (of the south, NOLA and back over a month) with a few friends once... Some of the natural areas were nice, we even camped a couple times in or near national forests. Roads were often a total shitshow, never saw so many potholes on main thoroughfares and highways. Nice BBQ though.
No blacks camping of course... but two RVs of rednecks arrived. We had put up our tents at a spot, and the grounds was near empty busy. Then we went off to do something. Came back later and found our tents had been pulled out and tossed into the next lot. The redneck elder hollered with a tone of finality that this was their regular spot. On a near empty grounds. Well, what are you gonna do. Their couch and beer cooler were already loud out. We moved over another spot to give some space.
It was him and his mate, perhaps their son and his mate (the women were all obese), and 4 or so kids, plus a couple teenage/20 something guys. All looked like they just left an ICP festival without the benefit of washing waters of any kind.
As soon as it got dark, they pulled out a pile of broken MDF, drywall (I shit you not), cardboard, and other wood scraps to start their fire. Lots of drinking and hootering and yelping into the night. At some point, a loud domestic argument broke out, with kids screaming and crying, and I am pretty sure someone got whooped. While over all of this, someone was practicing electric guitar and very choppy versions of the 80s finest rock hits.
OK, I don't want to exaggerate too much. Apart from stealing our spot and just throwing our shit to the side, they pretty much left us alone. But their full bore redneckness was a sight to see, and we laughed many times that night. We packed up and left by 10, and of course their whole spot was dead silent.
This was over a decade ago. Looking at a map now, it must have been Holly Springs National Forest, up north.
a lot of redneck culture down there came from a "fusion" of Scots-Irish and Native American traditions
Yes.
Remember kids, if you're gonna lose the vote, just choose your voters 🙂
Living near Memphis shows me that even when they have an absolute majority they still refuse to vote or anything like that. That's for yt peepol.
This but unironically.
Yes, but the dominant party in every state games the electoral system to their benefit. The South has a bad history doing it along racial lines, but most of the criticism today is seriously overblown. New York uses closed primaries, odd year elections, and all kinds of other frickery to protect the advantage of the ruling Democratic machine.
>New York uses closed primaries, odd year elections, and all kinds of other frickery to protect the advantage of the ruling Democratic machine.
Oh yeah. The twist there is that it tends to keep out left-wing Democrats and Squad types too. Maybe it keeps out Republicans but I think if you're a Republican in New York and aim for a political career you'd just be a conservative Democrat.
of course. I live upstate and local elections here are between the Republican and 'Conservative' party, which are basically socially conservative Democrats or moderate Republicans
Usually it's a result of the opposition party not bothering to spend resources to win elections there.
The West Coast used to be a more competitive region in days of old until Republicans gave up on it in the 90s once they were confident the South was safe territory for them and they didn't necessarily need California's votes anymore.
Trump for example relied in 2016 on targeting the Upper Midwest since the Democrats had gotten slack in those states and had stopped investing serious resources into winning elections there. Hillary didn't even bother campaigning in Wisconsin, Michigan, etc.
I recall that she didn't really campaign outside safe states like California she was in no danger of losing.
California is no different than Texas or any other state. Rich Democrat boomers who own vinyards and tech firms all vote for Nancy Pelosi et al but nobody but them ever bothers showing up at the polling place.
I live in Pennsylvania. Trump got out a lot of people who normally don't vote since otherwise it's just rich Democrat boomers in the Philly suburbs and public sector workers that are 90% of the vote here.
most major urban centers have been Democrat controlled since the mid-20th century if not before. Chicago sets the all-time record as its last Republican mayor was in 1931. today Miami is the only major US city which is Republican controlled.
chicago is also massively corrupt and rigs most of their elections
If you understand how the South works, and in particular the Deep South states like Missisippi that are very demographically static over time, it makes sense. Mississippi politics are controlled by the same handful of families who've run everything since statehood 204 years ago.
Last Republican mayor by city:
>Chicago
1931
>Boston
1932
>Philadelphia
1952
>San Francisco
1964
>Detroit
1961
>Baltimore
1967
NYC and LA have had more recent Republican mayors due to fluke circumstances in those cities but they also have been mostly Democrat-run since the 60s.
• Electoral rolls are supposed to keep track of who is registered to vote. The rolls would be rigged so dead people’s names still appeared on them, Crawford said, meaning others could vote for the candidate of their choice in the dead person’s name.
Sometimes, people working for the Machine would even go into cemeteries and take the names off of tombstones, then go back and fill out voter registration cards with the dead person’s names as if they were still alive, Crawford said.
• Election judges are supposed to keep an eye out for anything fishy at the polls. Republicans had a small presence in the city, though, and it was difficult to find Republican volunteers for the post, Crawford said.
Democrats would pretend to be Republicans and would volunteer, meaning there were actually two Democrats at polling places. Officers who provided security got their jobs from the Machine and weren’t going to say anything about what happened, Crawford said.
• People would be promised $5, a warm meal or a drink at the local pub to vote for the “right” people, said Crawford and Simpson.
Sometimes, the precinct captain would steal a ballot, mark it and give it to someone to turn in, Simpson said. That person would then bring the blank ballot they’d been given at the polling place back to the captain, who’d fill it out for the next person to come in, and so on.
An old sewer boss, Ed Quigley, once told Crawford he had a special way to make sure people voted the right way: When a voter would go behind a curtain to cast his or her ballot, they had to move to to one side to vote for a Democrat or the other side to vote for a Republican. Quigley would look under the curtain at the voter’s feet to make sure they were on the Democratic side, Crawford said.
• No Republicans to watch for suspicious activity in the precinct? The Democratic precinct captain would just vote for people who didn’t come in, Simpson said.
• Ward committeemen would go to nursing homes and “help” senior people with marking absentee ballots by holding the voter’s hand, Crawford said. Nursing homes would cooperate because they needed a good relationship with the city, which inspects them, he said.
Who is Crawford?
Robert Crawford. Chicago reporter, he was the top dog reporter for 40 years in Chicago
Thanks m8, no one ever follows up when asked.
I agree blacks in general are a lazy, apathetic demographic that rarely bothers voting beyond the unusual fluke circumstance like Obama where the much-elevated black turnout was enough to flip normally reliably red Indiana and North Carolina.
massive black voter turnout is usually some kind of fraud sadly enough
this could be partially true but he didn't really win any states that weren't already safe Democrat ones outside those two and one could argue it was a fluke along the lines of Bush getting New Mexico in the previous presidential election. besides, the Deep South has a huge black population and the Republicans were in no danger of losing any of those states in 2008.
2004 is not hard to explain because Bush was from a heartland state and he played well in Nevada, New Mexico, Colorado, and Iowa to be able to flip those. Obama though was always the guy for rich Democrat-voting coastal elites with no pull in the heartland states and while I agree it was NC and IN that gave him the win, it may have been fluke circumstances perhaps elevated black turnout there, perhaps some other reason.
>Obama though was always the guy for rich Democrat-voting coastal elites with no pull in the heartland states and
but he also had no difficulty winning all the states like Colorado, etc that Bush got 4 years earlier
>but he also had no difficulty winning all the states like Colorado, etc that Bush got 4 years earlier
Again, easily explained. Those were all states controlled by Democrat machines so in 2008 they just reverted back to their default mode where nobody voted except the usual handful of richgay Democrat boomers. The Democrat base in general was just a lot more motivated for Obama than they were for Gore and Kerry so that also increased turnout.
yeah a lot more motivated, like unrealistically more motivated. That being said the candidates they ran against obama were dogshit
I would call Romney the worse of the two because he was the same brand of Ivory Tower coastal liberal as Obama but without the charisma and you can't sell people a hamburger when they already have one.
McCain was a silver spoon reject that got everything he wanted because his dad was an admiral in WWII
Wait isn't that exactly what Bush was?
in a way yeah, but I'd argue mccain was sort of evil. like the stereotypical narcissistic politician
Bush was a lot smarter guy for one. He managed businesses and was a governor which generally makes for better leadership skills than being in Congress. Congressmen and Senators by and far aren't leaders, they're dealmakers and compromisers like Joe Biden.
now maybe you can argue the McCain-Palin ticket had more appeal to heartland state rednecks than Romney did but all of that was offset by Obama's massive organizational and funding advantages and a 90% friendly media.
mccain was just an unlikable prick, I don't know how arizona kept him permanently elected for so long
Rich boomers in Phoenix and Scottsdale who'd keep reelecting him because he bring pork to the state.
>and while I agree it was NC and IN that gave him the win
Those states alone wouldn't have given McCain the win if they stayed red, Ohio and Florida were more important to the election outcome. If anything Indiana and North Carolina flipped back to voting Republican in '12 yet had no ultimate effect on the outcome.
No live around blacks you leftist suburb living lunatic. Blacks are very uncaring and lazy they dont try to get IDs because they dont give a shit.
Mississippi's gov't is largely made up of blacks..........
What I mean is even in safe Democrat states like California or New York you had much higher turnout in 08 than in the previous two presidential elections.
Yes and yes.
t. 662
Yes. But to pretend like "the other side" does not gerrymander the shit out of everything is also a lie, look at the electoral district, so to speak of chicago. Electoral politics are pretty gay. Rules lawyering and shenanigans are very common.
yeah everyone knows AOC got elected when they gerrymandered her district in Brooklyn to flood it with white hipsters
Mississippi is an absolute shithole full of poor, lazy people who try to do as little as possible since there's 8 months of summer there.
Gerrymandering in and of itself is a bigger philosophical question in politics than most people bleating about it will admit. It’s obvious looking at electoral districts that they’re drawn with specific representation goals in mind, but the idea that there’s some objective truth to be had in defining these borders is ridiculous. My dad is a political science professor, and one of his phd students wanted to do a project on using machine learning to determine “fair” electoral maps. After about a year he presented the big algorithm and showed how the overall breakdown of delegates was some percentage closer to the popular vote split, and all the professors tore him apart because he never bothered to think about what he was trying to optimize for. The current system is representative, not direct; if the US wanted authority to rest solely with the most well represented group they wouldn’t have created the system they did. Electoral districts are incredibly important because they allow people of similar living conditions, who are affected by similar immediate local issues to elect the candidate that best serves their needs. Why then should we look to define districts by zip, or flat area, or demographics, or in the interest of “equitable representation” when all people should really be voting for is the candidate that has them and their neighbors’ best interests at heart? It’s a really interesting problem to solve, and it doesn’t have a single right answer, but that doesn’t stop brain dead morons from seeing some big snaking district and screaming and crying about how unfair it is.
>Why then should we look to define districts by zip, or flat area, or demographics, or in the interest of “equitable representation” when all people should really be voting for is the candidate that has them and their neighbors’ best interests at heart?
Yes, anon, gerrymandering is "ackchoally" in the best interests of the people in the electoral districts being gerrymandered.
No. It's literally Black personville in both populace and corrupt local government. It's baffling that the useless governor is even white although he's a giga cuck. Blacks here are given every avenue for success and then some, but putting a chimp in a suit and throwing him into a junior college won't take his focus away from bananas.
>Blacks here are given every avenue for success and then some, but putting a chimp in a suit and throwing him into a junior college won't take his focus away from bananas.
you will never have an ethnostate
Not to be the internet racist about it but yeah, there are a lot of advantages offered to the disadvantaged communities around here. A lot of the people who get it deserve it and use it to make their lives better by being good citizens.
A lot of the time it doesn't work in their favor. Even with every chance and every concession and the taxes from an entire state that stretches the length of the Great Plains, we see their communities underperforming. When fatherless kids are presented with a sort of Pleasure Island, they turn into monsters. The smart ones just live regular lives like you or I. The rest kill each other. It's a sort of rejection of civilization and order, like the Satanists of South Africa.
All you can do is wait it out for a few generations and encourage the ones who want to make it better.
at least they did make some cool music...in the 1950s. but that was then and this is now.
>torture/enslave/lynch/oppress blacks for 200 years
>why they struggle to do the same things white people can do
Yikes racist. Are you saying because they're black they can't do the same things white people can do? That's a little bigoted bucko.
Yes historically, no now because of all of the federal laws in place to prevent them from trying. Cant IQ test them, can't literacy test them, can't charge money, ect
They can't lynch people anymore but they do what they can surreptitiously and besides the Federal government doesn't have the resources to be policing the South constantly.
lynching was almost always justified, you don't hear liberals crying about rapists and murderers getting life in prison
>don't hear liberals crying about rapists and murderers getting life in prison
They do cry about that if they're black.
Black criminal apologia is a well-established art form.
nah, they cry about "for profit prisons" and then pretend everybody in prison are all weed dealers. Point out that a lot of people in prison are murderers and rapists and they shut up real quick
Murder is generally not justifiable.
not murder if it's punishment
Mob violence is most definitely murder.
nope, not if it's justified
Which it generally isn't. Maybe it's understandable if the authorities are powerless, non-existent, or hopelessly corrupt or the victim is one of them.
it generally is justified when referring to lynchings, it's not like there were tens of thousands of lynchings
Even if there were only a dozen it doesn't make them justified.
it does, because they were rapists and murderers
Not unless convicted, they weren't. And even if they were, it's still murder.
They were convicted and hanged, that's what lynchings were
Usually they were taken from the courthouse or jail before being convicted, if there were even plans for a trial. Sometimes they were technically convicted but had confessed under torture. That's also illegal, though it was not uncommon.
they were convicted by the public, and sentenced to death. They were also very accurate and almost never hanged innocent people
About 4,200 documented lynchings in the US from 1880 to 1940 with 75% involving black victims. They occurred in all regions of the country outside New England but were most common in the South and West--in the latter most lynching victims were Mexicans, Indians, or Chinese rather than blacks.
walking outdoors in summer down there is like you're on fire
Oklahoma is almost as bad with its voting system which basically ensures only a couple of well-off white boomers involved in the oil and agricultural industries are eligible to vote
Hi Louisiana resident and frequent visitor of Mississippi here, and the answer is yes. I encourage you to visit it. While the old time forms of voter discrimination and other direct ways to get black people not to vote don’t happen anymore, as an anon here already said it still exists but is simply indirect, with them making it harder to vote, gerrymandering, etc. i like them and encourage you to visit them but know that they are by far the worst state. It’s just terrible, absolutely terrible. Packs of wild dogs tier not even joking
>Louisiana resident
Opinion scrapped. Stay in Nig Orleans spook.
West Virginia is the worst state and is mostly white so /misc/ arguments can't explain that.
yes it's poor and full of methbillies but at least the landscapes are pretty, not a fricking flat swamp, and it doesn't have the unbearable summers with 200% humidity like Mississippi does.
Nobody's vote means shit dumbass
>nearly every state that voted for Drumpf look like Guatemala
>every state that is actually livable (California, Oregon, Minnesota, New York, etc) is Democrat run
really gets the almonds rustling, don't it?
By most accounts, a juvenile delinquent would be put in reform school and rehabilitated. However as we shall see here, the 1950s South operated on a rather skewered form of justice if the perpetrator was of the wrong skin color.
On November 1, 1959, Dicie Boyd, a 63 year old woman in Atmore, Alabama entered her barn to discover 16 year old Joe Henry Johnson in an act of fornication with one of her cows. In a panic, Johnson attacked, raped, and beat Boyd to death so she wouldn't tell of his zoophilia fetish. He also beat her 88 year old mother Rowena (she survived and ultimately lived nine more years, dying in 1968 at 97). As one might expect, it was a mere two months before an all-white jury found Johnson guilty of 1st degree murder and sentenced to death despite his mother's pleadings that he had been underage when the crime was committed. Johnson was executed in Alabama's electric chair on November 24, 1961 after the state supreme court denied his appeals. One can assume had Johnson been white, he would have met a less severe penalty.
An even swifter date with Old Sparky awaited Columbus Boggs, 27, who shot and fatally wounded a white shopkeeper during a robbery in the Selma area. Boggs had been serving a burglary sentence in the Etowah County Jail when he escaped in August 1957, stole a truck, and went around the state on a spree of carjackings, burglaries, and robberies. The crime he was ultimately convicted for happened in Uniontown, outside Selma. An all-white jury took only an hour of deliberation to find Boggs guilty. Further compromising the trial's neutrality, the prosecution introduced into evidence Bogg's prior burglary conviction as well as a stint in Federal prison for failing to register under the Selective Service Act.
Boggs was executed on April 29, 1960 despite the pleas of his mother and brother for clemency. The prosecutor, Blanchard McLeod, in the typically prejudicial language of the day, called Boggs "more unconcerned about the murder than any defendant I'd ever seen."
For comparison, when the white Edwin Dockery was executed in December 1959 for the murder of a man who resisted his homosexual advances, he was allowed a sumptuous final meal consisting of oysters, veal, a salad, buttered rolls, banana pie, ice cream, and he got a box of premium cigars. He also met with a Catholic priest, Father William Wiggins, and a Baptist minister, Rev. Tilford Junkins, one of the most prominent evangelical preachers in the state (after hearing both their theological arguments, he chose to convert to Catholicism).
One also retains their doubts about whether these privileges would have been granted to Edwin Dockery had he been a black man.
what was unfair about these executions? the black guys and white guy were all tried and executed for murder fairly it seems.
No
They stifle EVERYONE who isn't rich enough to take an entire workday off to stand outside, exposed, with trannies and grannies and poor-as-frick jannies and new-driver nannies complaining and making a stink, because everyone is forced to wait an entire fricking day to get a walk-in at any DMV in the entire state, because appointments for every DMV are booked full for 6 months, just to get a fricking drivers license.
And the funniest fricking part is half those people DONT NEED TO BE THERE!! They already have licenses, they can renew and get it in the mail! But people who never got such licenses, which are the ones democrats complain are being 'stifled', are being fricked not because voter ID requirements are too strict (they're fricking not, show an ID and sign, baka), but because NO ONE IN THE DMV DOES ANY FRICKING WORK, and NO ONE WANTS TO PAY to get more/better wagecucks in the DMV offices.
And no, DMV not understaffed because no one wants to work in the DMV (it's gov work, it will pay enough, though it should pay better), it's fully staffed, not hiring anyone else, BUT IT'S NOT ENOUGH FRICKING STAFF