Is it worth it to get studio monitors vs regular speakers if all I'm doing is home recording for fun and maybe to upload my shitty songs to Soundcloud or something? And if so what are some good monitors worth checking out without breaking the bank?
Is it that big a deal that I use speakers?
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As long as they're decent I don't care where they come from
JBL 305p
Kali LP-6
Adam T5V
Monitors have adopted flat frequency response+controlled directivity as a design goal faster than other speakers speakers, so well-designed ones are easier to find.
>Adam T5V
This.
redpill me on it
It's amazing value for the money, the perfect balance in this budget between "too nice-sounding" (KRK) and "revealing but too shrill" (Yamaha).
There are good comparisons on YouTube like this:
> revealing but too shrill
Yamaha are not that. Yamaha are more or less "pretty shit, but I am very used to them, hence very confident in my ability to mix on them". Mixing at the end of the day is way more art then science, and being confident and used to your tools is much more important then the objective qualities of said tools.
If you play music more often than you make music, get speakers. Unless you spend a lot of time mixing and mastering audio, it's a waste of money and your music will sound dull and boring.
no, bazz boozted consoomer speakers are trash
Then don't get "bazz boozted" speakers?
>Why the frick is wrong with flat frequency response? It's exactly how the music sounded in the studio and the goal of all high end hifi.
It's absolutely not the goal of any hifi at all, flat response monitors are not made for listening to music and doing so makes the music sound bad and not how it's intended to sound like
>That said you can always just apply an eq if you don't like the flat sound.
Monitors are built to sound flat and EQing to get them out of reference is moronic and will make them sound like shitty speakers. Better to EQ your speakers as flat as possible until you're a semi-professional musician
everything you've said is false. high fidelity speakers have two goals: no noise/distorition and accurate reproduction of sound. Flatness is the goal. if that sounds bad to you, you just have a preference for meme eq
If you want a goofy eq on your music just use software eq gay.
Why the frick is wrong with flat frequency response? It's exactly how the music sounded in the studio and the goal of all high end hifi.
I don't know if I agree with this. I find that when I use studio monitors I discover a lot of stuff in songs that I didn't hear before. Although I will say stuff that uses a bunch of 808 would benefit from a sub. That said you can always just apply an eq if you don't like the flat sound.
>implying peak fidelity isn't monitors + a sub
I didn't say otherwise. Most monitors lose fidelity below 40htz so adding a sub will definitely add some more definition in that frequency range. Although I would want to invest in some room treatment before I invest in a sub.
That's about what I do. I got the Kali LP6 and those worked pretty well for me and that was under $400 for me.
I mostly just like plugging into my interface and trying out different amp sims and effects and just jamming. When I find something good I'll record it and make a song out of it
Worth it to get monitors then?
wouldnt 30Xp tier monitors plus a sub kill in value a similar hifi setup
LP-6s, two monoprice/partsexpress subwoofers, and a miniDSP DDRC-24 for Dirac Live and you ascend to another plane of existence.
Studio monitors are built for monitoring, speakers are built for listening to music. You would get the most value out of buying speakers if you want to use them for listening.
don't listen to him
music is 100% more interesting on my T8V
Of course this homosexual has to show up, like clockwork.
monitors are the only sane way to listen to music in a small room. so unless youre a richgay with a big house, you should already have these.
the jbl 305p are great for mixing and listening to music. pretty inexpensive too.
Actual audio engineer here. Don’t listen to these idiots at all. For hobbyist music creation you want a decent pair of mixing headphones since you likely don’t have acoustic treatment in the room. Now if you are dedicated to spending some real frickin money then by all means get some JBLs or Yamahas and put in some bass traps and acoustic panels, get some rugs, maybe even a baffle for your ceiling. Get the sound close on your norm speakers, then mixing headphones when your dialing in your compression/eq/etc.
you forgot the part where you cry because the band you recorded listens to it on there cellphone and they want more bass because they can't hear the 808s
I don't have the time or resources to acoustically treat a room. I just play in the loft of my home
I mostly don't want to use an amp anymore since it's too loud so I play through my computer but hate wearing headphones
So an option for a budget is the m-audio 3” monitor pair. These are terrible for bass heavy music and are not ideal for mixing in general but for your use case they are perfectly acceptable.
just get studio monitors, the only thing you need is flat frequency response, anything else is overkill. high end speakers from brands like KEF and Revel all try to sound the same as studio monitors, and cost a whole lot more. save yourself the trouble broseph and get some quality 5" + monitors
Best monitors to get for 300~ USD for a pair?
check out AVE fusion 4's or 5's, they're a good starting point
Really, it depends on if you intend to ever get better at mixing. If you can't see yourself ever improving past a hobbyist/soundcloud zoomer level, just have speakers. If you want to actually improve over time, you'll want to have an accurate idea of how your mixes sound so that you can learn how to fix them, in which case you'll want some monitors, even if they're cheap shitty ones. Rokits are a meme, some swear by them others will tell you they're garbage, I think they're garbage, and that no one would own them if it weren't for LE HECKIN YELLOW WOOFER BOI.
Best bang for your buck would be used Behringer, Alesis or M-Audio, look on Craigslist, you can probably find something decent for under $150.
Just make sure they're active, because you want amps that are matched to the speakers, otherwise there's no point in buying them for accuracy or "flatness".
>Really, it depends on if you intend to ever get better at mixing
that's the plan eventually when i move and get a better room i can treat and make into a proper studio
This is pretty sound advice ngl
are stands necessary or can I just leave monitors on my desk ?
Top of desk is pretty bad due to desktop reflections and positioning unless you slouch heavily
Some monitors have DSP to correct for it but that can be very hit/miss
If you can't get them on separate independent stands and you're bothered by the reflections put some isolating pads under at least and angle them up (but tweeter should still be aimed towards ears)
you sound like you know what you're talking about
let's say i'm brand new to recording but want to get serious. at this point i have an interface and some Audio Technica headphones and that's it.
What should I be aware of and what equipment should I be looking to invest in in the future to get somewhat proficient at recording and mixing?
Depends on what do you want to record. If we are talking minimal viable, a pair of reasonably cheap monitors (Kali, Adam T, KRK, Yamaha, JBL). Just pick one pair, it doesn't really matter which, they are all good enough, and get used to them. Then get a large diaphragm condenser, it is the most versatile type of microphone, especially at the low volume levels you'll be dealing with. It can record pretty much anything and be reasonably good at it. Learn how to use it, learn recording what you've wanted with that mic first. Then move on to more specialized gear.
Do not get SM57/58. Just don't. Those are very good and affordable mics, industry standards for a reason. They will perform much worse on low levels, plus it's really really hard to get a good sound out of them unless you are pretty skilled. Only get a 58 if you are a vocalist in a band.
actual mixing and mastering anon here
if your room is not treated, the monitors will NOT work, so you are ok with getting regular listening monitors
for mixing and such get designated good openback overear headphones or IEMs
if your room IS treated, get a pair of lsr 305's
simple as
un knowledgeable homosexual here
have mixed some pretty good sounding records in untreated rooms on expensive monitors
have made subpar mixes on cheap monitors in treated/nice rooms
and vice versa for both
even in a shit sounding room, if you can't mix with nearfield monitors placed 2ft from your head, you probably just aren't as skilled as you thought.
i will say though, the open back headphone tip is sound advice, really the second best thing to having monitors, probably better than monitors if you have roommates or people who are gonna get pissed off about noise
im fairly young so i wont pretend to be the best at it but iv never used nearfields to mix on an untreated room because i just dont think ill make a good job and will probably waste lots of time
>im fairly young
>pretend to be the best
>iv never used
>i just dont think
>probably
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They are a very decent hassle free option, economic option. Overall a pretty good choice. Do not listen to c**ts who say they are only for mixing, they are just a speaker at the end of the day.
Yamaha HS8. That’s all. Bye.