we still have radio
you can still get polariod ammo online
you can still buy micro casettes online
physical earthbound(snes) is still like 200usd
there are kits for repair and maintenance for all this shit also available online
>is the death of physical media inevitable
no >will it still exist in the age of streaming?
are you fricking stupid? it still exists. you delusional pedophiles really need to ask your parole officer if you can go to a mall sometime so you can see some of the millions of discs still sold every year.
>dvd
yeah, you've been in jail for a long time, haven't you?
>Bought many VHS tapes or DVDs lately?
lmao >Blue rays are a dying breed
never happened and isn't happening. >and nothing is going to replace them
why would something superior need to be replaced? 4k video is standard these days on bluray. 8k isn't happening any time soon. bluray will be around for same length of time CD has been around (forever).
ITT: We pretend it's 2004.
two more weeks, everyone! it will surely be dead in two more.
>two more weeks, everyone! it will surely be dead in two more.
The failure point isn't the disc themselves (especially if they are pressed or M-DISC backups), but the drives. good luck finding working drives a decade from now.
I want to know what happened to downloading movie purchases to keep on your drive. 15-20 years ago it was standard to be able to buy a movie and then download it to your drive where you could access it as a file, now in a lot of places even when you buy a movie, you can only stream it, and if you *are* able to download the movies you bought, it's usually downloaded in some proprietary esoteric way where it's hard to find in your filesystem and you cannot really back it up.
it depends how eco people want to be, there allready is television available at electronics stores, personal computers could be made so that in bios one selects netboot of operating system and internet environment of choice, physical media is nice but only factory made seem to last
with streaming providers who aren't netflix shitting the bed left and right people are looking to physical media again. i never completely let go of it tho.
I often ask myself that question. I think physical media will be dead in less than a decade. Only a handful of collectors will care about it. Futurology is not a real science so I might be wrong.
Yes
Physical media will never go away imo
Theres a market for it but the masses will use digital
I want both digital and physical for on the go and physical for a higher quality experience
It really depends how good people get with encoding AV1 video. AOM with a slow preset can already hit 90+ VMAF (where "visually lossless" begins) for most 1080p video at around 2 Mbps. With10-bit encoding and psychovisual optimizations (ie grain synthesis) this can probably be brought down to ~1 Mbps.
Basically more competent AV1 encoders = less and less need for DVD/blu-ray.
...what the frick does video encoding even have to do with physical media making sense or not, holy shit
this is your most moronic take after "smartphone speakers sound better than car speakers"
btw netflix has been doing 2 mps vmaf 90 av1 video for years already and you're double moronic
If anything, AV1 makes DVDs useful once again, as you can store HD content on a single layer disc and 4K content on a double layer one.
>implying people buy physical media because their internet is too slow to stream movies
kek
also downloading a movie and then watching it is still faster than driving to best buy, buying a blu ray, and driving back home... or ordering it on amazon and waiting the next day for it to be delivered.. you know...
how the frick does a functioning human being come to such delusion
Low file size rips exist but it's a pretty common complaint that they look like dogshit and thus it drives people back to ancient physical media. I mean let's be fricking real here the 1-2GB movie rips will always have 1 million more seeders than the 10-20GB movie rips and I'm not going to waste hours waiting for some piece of shit movie I'm probably not going to like anyway.
>AV1 could change that.
no it won't.
streaming companies invested in av1 to lower bitrates further and save money in bandwidth, which is their #1 expense, they didn't invest in av1 to improve quality while keeping the same bitrates, because just as you said, most people don't give a frick about quality and their encodes are already more than enough for 99% of people.
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They're clearly not if people are going back to physical. SURE some poorgays with a 100:1 contrast ratio CRT display is going to think it's fine but even a modern chinkshit 4k tv won't be anywhere near as bad as a CRT.
>implying people buy physical media because their internet is too slow to stream movies
kek
also downloading a movie and then watching it is still faster than driving to best buy, buying a blu ray, and driving back home... or ordering it on amazon and waiting the next day for it to be delivered.. you know...
how the frick does a functioning human being come to such delusion
If they can encode it with 250Mbps to match digital cinema master copies and lossless audio then yeah it would be bacl aa a physical medium for multimedia
streaming services are gimping your bitrates even if you pay. I also just enjoy putting the disc into the player and secondhand discs are cheap as frick
we still have radio
you can still get polariod ammo online
you can still buy micro casettes online
physical earthbound(snes) is still like 200usd
there are kits for repair and maintenance for all this shit also available online
>is the death of physical media inevitable
no
>will it still exist in the age of streaming?
are you fricking stupid? it still exists. you delusional pedophiles really need to ask your parole officer if you can go to a mall sometime so you can see some of the millions of discs still sold every year.
>dvd
yeah, you've been in jail for a long time, haven't you?
Bought many VHS tapes or DVDs lately? Blue rays are a dying breed and nothing is going to replace them.
>Bought many VHS tapes or DVDs lately?
lmao
>Blue rays are a dying breed
never happened and isn't happening.
>and nothing is going to replace them
why would something superior need to be replaced? 4k video is standard these days on bluray. 8k isn't happening any time soon. bluray will be around for same length of time CD has been around (forever).
two more weeks, everyone! it will surely be dead in two more.
>two more weeks, everyone! it will surely be dead in two more.
The failure point isn't the disc themselves (especially if they are pressed or M-DISC backups), but the drives. good luck finding working drives a decade from now.
ITT: We pretend it's 2004.
I want to know what happened to downloading movie purchases to keep on your drive. 15-20 years ago it was standard to be able to buy a movie and then download it to your drive where you could access it as a file, now in a lot of places even when you buy a movie, you can only stream it, and if you *are* able to download the movies you bought, it's usually downloaded in some proprietary esoteric way where it's hard to find in your filesystem and you cannot really back it up.
it depends how eco people want to be, there allready is television available at electronics stores, personal computers could be made so that in bios one selects netboot of operating system and internet environment of choice, physical media is nice but only factory made seem to last
with streaming providers who aren't netflix shitting the bed left and right people are looking to physical media again. i never completely let go of it tho.
I often ask myself that question. I think physical media will be dead in less than a decade. Only a handful of collectors will care about it. Futurology is not a real science so I might be wrong.
>is the death of physical media inevitable?
no, but that won't stop them from trying. see: IQfyidya
Yes
Physical media will never go away imo
Theres a market for it but the masses will use digital
I want both digital and physical for on the go and physical for a higher quality experience
It really depends how good people get with encoding AV1 video. AOM with a slow preset can already hit 90+ VMAF (where "visually lossless" begins) for most 1080p video at around 2 Mbps. With10-bit encoding and psychovisual optimizations (ie grain synthesis) this can probably be brought down to ~1 Mbps.
Basically more competent AV1 encoders = less and less need for DVD/blu-ray.
...what the frick does video encoding even have to do with physical media making sense or not, holy shit
this is your most moronic take after "smartphone speakers sound better than car speakers"
btw netflix has been doing 2 mps vmaf 90 av1 video for years already and you're double moronic
If anything, AV1 makes DVDs useful once again, as you can store HD content on a single layer disc and 4K content on a double layer one.
Low file size rips exist but it's a pretty common complaint that they look like dogshit and thus it drives people back to ancient physical media. I mean let's be fricking real here the 1-2GB movie rips will always have 1 million more seeders than the 10-20GB movie rips and I'm not going to waste hours waiting for some piece of shit movie I'm probably not going to like anyway.
AV1 could change that.
>AV1 could change that.
no it won't.
streaming companies invested in av1 to lower bitrates further and save money in bandwidth, which is their #1 expense, they didn't invest in av1 to improve quality while keeping the same bitrates, because just as you said, most people don't give a frick about quality and their encodes are already more than enough for 99% of people.
They're clearly not if people are going back to physical. SURE some poorgays with a 100:1 contrast ratio CRT display is going to think it's fine but even a modern chinkshit 4k tv won't be anywhere near as bad as a CRT.
>implying people buy physical media because their internet is too slow to stream movies
kek
also downloading a movie and then watching it is still faster than driving to best buy, buying a blu ray, and driving back home... or ordering it on amazon and waiting the next day for it to be delivered.. you know...
how the frick does a functioning human being come to such delusion
a 6tb dvd just got invented, it may come back hard. A car with a trunk full of these has a lot more throughput than fiber optic.
If they can encode it with 250Mbps to match digital cinema master copies and lossless audio then yeah it would be bacl aa a physical medium for multimedia
streaming services are gimping your bitrates even if you pay. I also just enjoy putting the disc into the player and secondhand discs are cheap as frick
>death of physical media
as opposed to the "dematerialized" cloud?